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First look at G.I. Joe's Scarlett.

I think the costume looks alright, and Rachel looks great, but it doesn't scream Scarlett to me. I don't like the black, wish it had more color.

It actually reminds me of Joanna Dark from the 'Perfect Dark' video games.

Oh well, I'm not going to nit pick at it, 'cause I know Rachel's gonna kick arse no matter how she's dressed.
 
I don’t think anybody expected the “old school outfit” but the same old batman, x-men black leather design is just tired. I swear they have a Hollywood just cranking these outfits out for everything…probably shipped in from India by the crate load.
When making movies like this, you need creative minds with awesome ideas that blow you away. Taking a “concept” and making it work for film and paying attention to every detail.
This approach to costumes is, old tired and lazy. “Oh I am incapable of doing something creative so I just made it black.”
How they got Snake Eyes so right and this so wrong is beyond me.
 
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Those in charge are changing too much of the characters personas. The Supeman pic above is what the studios wanted to go with in Superman returns. Only with this costume Supes could pull blades out of and use them to fight. Not the superman you know huh? Would you have gone to see it had you known this? They changed it after showing it around a few times and got overwhelming negative feedback. Sometimes the outfit is almost as important as the character.
 
Rachel is hot...super hot.

However, that is not Scarlet. Thats a random spy/swat member/whatever.

I understand that its based off of Sigma 6...but uh...does anyone actually buy the Sigma 6 stuff? Why is so much of this movie based around that instead of the classic Joe look and characters?

Im disappointed...though Ive been disappointed with just about everything from this movie so far.
 
I understand that its based off of Sigma 6...but uh...does anyone actually buy the Sigma 6 stuff? Why is so much of this movie based around that instead of the classic Joe look and characters?

Im disappointed...though Ive been disappointed with just about everything from this movie so far.

Accoirding to Wikipedia: 2007 saw the rebranding of the 8" line. The Sigma Six branding was dropped in the spring of 2007. Since that time, new figures have been branded as simply G.I. Joe and divided into differently packaged sub-groups such as Combat Squad, Commandos, and Adventure Team. The entire 8" scale was cancelled by the end of 2007.

No one buys that Sigma 6 Garbage. Got to any store I.E. Toy's R Us, Target, Walmart...etc. and you'll see Sigma 6 stuff sitting on the shelves.Good luck trying to find 25th anniversary figures like Serpentor, Stalker, Flint, Beachhead and Comic 2 pack Wild Weasel and Ace. It's about money. Not about fanbase. If they made the movie according to the comics or the cartoon only us fanboys and girls would go see it. No Cash there.
 
I'm tired of all this nonsense of "she's not Scarlett 'cause the outfit is different from the cartoon, blah blah blah......"

Get real, she's a redhead and has the crossbow, part of what the Scarlett character is supposed to be. People have to stop wanting to see a cartoon on live action, is just ******ed to do that, they have to ADAPT the material for the movies, they can't copy everything from the cartoons or comics for the simple fact that it would look too cheesy and stupid, military characters wearing bright coloured outfits? Dumb!
Also, the people comparing it to the X-Men outfits, hello! The outfits from the X-Men were different, they were leather style, Scarlett has more of a protection gear jacket, with straps over her shoulders and pads protecting different parts of her body.

Is just logical they change some details, fanboys are not enough to make a profit, they have to make it appealing enough for the general public so the movie has the best chance of being successful, that's how it works, some seem to live on their own little world disconnected from reality.

Let's put some order in this jumble of hatred against your fellows, fanboy. :grin:

1) If that was so stupid as you say, it would have never existed. If it exists, it's through a thing called "fantasy", that takes place in comic books and cinema as well;

2) It's like the X-Men and Batbot indeed, because it keeps going into this unimaginative and quite lazy way the industry found of getting loads of superhero generics out in the market:

"make them all black and say it's for the sake of adapting the source material, that we'll keep the spirit, or something of that sort. Realism, whatever. Just wrap the hot chick in black and they'll drool and forget. They're goddamm teens.".

3) If the last part of your rant is true, then why worrying about superhero flicks, anyway? I don't think it's true, cause we have a bunch of examples on the contrary: Iron Man (a man in a metal gear, yellow and red, that can fly and what not?); Hellboy (a devilish giant red ape with severed horns?); Spider-man (a boy in a tight red and blue kind-of leotard, with a mask and shooting webs from his wrists?), etc.

So, when you say "cheesy", think again. People dig it with no problem. And Scarlett would be much better in her classic outfit than in this generic übercrap.
 
Let's put some order in this jumble of hatred against your fellows, fanboy. :grin:

1) If that was so stupid as you say, it would have never existed. If it exists, it's through a thing called "fantasy", that takes place in comic books and cinema as well;

2) It's like the X-Men and Batbot indeed, because it keeps going into this unimaginative and quite lazy way the industry found of getting loads of superhero generics out in the market:

"make them all black and say it's for the sake of adapting the source material, that we'll keep the spirit, or something of that sort. Realism, whatever. Just wrap the hot chick in black and they'll drool and forget. They're goddamm teens.".

3) If the last part of your rant is true, then why worrying about superhero flicks, anyway? I don't think it's true, cause we have a bunch of examples on the contrary: Iron Man (a man in a metal gear, yellow and red, that can fly and what not?); Hellboy (a devilish giant red ape with severed horns?); Spider-man (a boy in a tight red and blue kind-of leotard, with a mask and shooting webs from his wrists?), etc.

So, when you say "cheesy", think again. People dig it with no problem. And Scarlett would be much better in her classic outfit than in this generic übercrap.

WHOO HOOO! MERCURIUS ROCKS!!!!!!!! Change isn't always for the better!
 
If anything, most of the Joe's uniforms translates to live-action almost better than any other series. Most of them wear standard green military pants and brown, green or blue shirts. It's not like they were doing Lifeline, or trying to translate Torpedo, Quick Kick or Barbecue, these are easily characters to keep familiar.

All they had to do was make the suit dark grey instead of black, and change the padded parts to gold....maybe give her gold gloves, but that would be reaching. Then it would be a perfect rendition. But I think they got happy with the response from Snake Eyes and were like "lets make them all black. They are teenagers and "fanboys", so as long as she looks sexy, they won't notice". If I see Duke or Storm Shadow in all black, I'm gonna flip. And what color will Destro, Baroness, Zartan & Cobra Commander be in?
 
I don't think it's true, cause we have a bunch of examples on the contrary: Iron Man (a man in a metal gear, yellow and red, that can fly and what not?); Hellboy (a devilish giant red ape with severed horns?); Spider-man (a boy in a tight red and blue kind-of leotard, with a mask and shooting webs from his wrists?), etc.

I reckon Superman, Iron Man, Spider-Man et al. easily have more interesting costumes than Batman, X-Men or G.I. Joe. That's why I don't made changes to that lot.
 
If anything, most of the Joe's uniforms translates to live-action almost better than any other series. Most of them wear standard green military pants and brown, green or blue shirts. It's not like they were doing Lifeline, or trying to translate Torpedo, Quick Kick or Barbecue, these are easily characters to keep familiar.

All they had to do was make the suit dark grey instead of black, and change the padded parts to gold....maybe give her gold gloves, but that would be reaching. Then it would be a perfect rendition. But I think they got happy with the response from Snake Eyes and were like "lets make them all black. They are teenagers and "fanboys", so as long as she looks sexy, they won't notice". If I see Duke or Storm Shadow in all black, I'm gonna flip. And what color will Destro, Baroness, Zartan & Cobra Commander be in?

I'm sure they had Scarletts costume done the same time Sanke eyes was done.
 
I think it works. Though I think the argument that it should have more color is a valid one. Maybe just some blue as a homage to the original suit, but this still works regardless.
 
Let's put some order in this jumble of hatred against your fellows, fanboy. :grin:

1) If that was so stupid as you say, it would have never existed. If it exists, it's through a thing called "fantasy", that takes place in comic books and cinema as well;

2) It's like the X-Men and Batbot indeed, because it keeps going into this unimaginative and quite lazy way the industry found of getting loads of superhero generics out in the market:

"make them all black and say it's for the sake of adapting the source material, that we'll keep the spirit, or something of that sort. Realism, whatever. Just wrap the hot chick in black and they'll drool and forget. They're goddamm teens.".

3) If the last part of your rant is true, then why worrying about superhero flicks, anyway? I don't think it's true, cause we have a bunch of examples on the contrary: Iron Man (a man in a metal gear, yellow and red, that can fly and what not?); Hellboy (a devilish giant red ape with severed horns?); Spider-man (a boy in a tight red and blue kind-of leotard, with a mask and shooting webs from his wrists?), etc.

So, when you say "cheesy", think again. People dig it with no problem. And Scarlett would be much better in her classic outfit than in this generic übercrap.



The whole "general audience and realism" argument is really lame and old. General audiences love far out fantasy films as much as fanboys and have proven it time and time again with their wallets.

The general audience and realism argument is really nothing more than an excuse for the studios to avoid as much risk ($$$$$) as possible by not going out on a limb in the creativity department. What is the point of aquiring the license to fantasy material if you don't want to take some degree of creative risks? The two practically go hand in hand.
 
You know Marvel publishes comic books to make money right Zanos. And zillions of action figures, toys, and pieces of merchandise.

What's so creative about this costume compared to Matrix or X-men costumes?

The action figures made by marvel are a result of the success of the comic books which spawned great characters and stories. Unlike G.I. Joe they were not created with the express purpose and intent of selling anything other than work within those pages. I would be fine with the G.I. Joe cartoon if they had at least tried to be creative with their stories but that simply wasn't the case. Even as a child I felt insulted watching it.

You are a weird person Zanos. You seem to hate and insult GI JOE then you go around and talk about how you like how the movie looks and defend the honor of the costume designers against anyone who dares compare it to the X-men movies.

I never said I "liked" anything about G.I.Joe except the creativity that went into the costumes so far.
 
If the only people who go see this movie are people who fondly remember the 80s toys, comics or cartoon, then this movie will be a massive juggernaut of a film.

However, if the studio keeps screwing with the source material, those fans will boycot the film to some degree and the movie wont fair as well.

The general public will go to whatever they are told is that weeks big film...if it gets good buzz then more will follow in coming weeks. If the movie craps all over the source material then it wont get good buzz.
 
Cool pic! :up:

As regards to the suits. It looks as they are going the X-Men route with this.
 
She looks good, I want some realism to it all. I'm looking foward to this movie.
 
lives-costume.jpg

Those in charge are changing too much of the characters personas. The Supeman pic above is what the studios wanted to go with in Superman returns. Only with this costume Supes could pull blades out of and use them to fight. Not the superman you know huh? Would you have gone to see it had you known this? They changed it after showing it around a few times and got overwhelming negative feedback. Sometimes the outfit is almost as important as the character.

god that is beyond awful... but its funny and cool awful; makes me wish they made a SUPERMAN 5 book with ALL the artwork and scripts of the rejected movies like JJ Abrams, McG, Kevin Smith/Burton, etc in it... thatd be a great buy... make it like a coffee table book... oops sorry, back on the subject at hand Scarlet is looks great
 
I don't know what's worse, Hollywood's "lack of imagination" for making costumes black, or fanboys complete rejection for anything that isn't a 3 color copy of what they see in a comic book or cartoon, and consequent whining even when it does (Snake-Eyes). Honestly, if the JOES wore their outdated uniforms from the comic, i'd never go see this movie. What's wrong with a covert military force wearing black? And people need to quit with the X-Men and Batman comparisons because thats just stupid and immature. None of these looks anything alike other than being black.
 
I reckon Superman, Iron Man, Spider-Man et al. easily have more interesting costumes than Batman, X-Men or G.I. Joe. That's why I don't made changes to that lot.


I think that colourful outfits that understand and respect the source material are due to a combination of:

a) huge media icons, it wouldn't be a good idea messing too much with it;

b) great creative team working on it without hurry things up, wanting to get it right and make history;

c) a need to hit the jackpot on every level, and not keeping only with regular (and casual) moviegoer. Also because they understand that a great movie will keep bringing money and a legion of fans, and a cheap trick disappears like smoke.
 

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