First negative review of CR and Craig hits the net - seems genuine

[Kevin Roegele]

Even if Casino Royale is absolute f*****g bulls**t......it's a step up from Die Another Day.

It's win/win.

 

[super_fan]

Eva Green and Daniel Craig share an intimate moment...

t:

 

[블라스]

Even if Casino Royale is absolute f*****g bulls**t......it's a step up from Die Another Day.

It's win/win.

Hahaha

 

[Darthphere]

Tell us how you really feel.

 

[Carmine Falcone]

That might be but Craig's performance is important in CR.

That's the main reason why I know it will be good. Craig is gonna ****ing rule. He's the man.

 

[LastSunrise1981]

daniel craigs face looks like a haggard turd

its a lock to be the worst bond movie ever

having a monkey face bond with blond hair and with as much charisma and personality as a piece of turd is hardly instilling confidence,

barbara brocolli must have taken it up the backside rather aggresively to suddenly chose daniel craig.

Is this the best the trolls can come up with?

 

[Super78]

From what I've seen in the trailers, TV spots, etc, Craig's Bond is way too uptight.

He doesn't seem to have that swagger and coolness to him.

And it seems as though he doesn't have a sense of humour.

Maybe this is intentional to show the beginnings on what Bond was like before really settling into his '007' role.

 

[Darthphere]

I saw the complete opposite.

 

[LastSunrise1981]

From what I've seen in the trailers, TV spots, etc, Craig's Bond is way too uptight.

He doesn't seem to have that swagger and coolness to him.

And it seems as though he doesn't have a sense of humour.

Maybe this is intentional to show the beginnings on what Bond was like before really settling into his '007' role.

Vesper- It doesn't bother, you killing all those people?

Bond- Well I wouldn't be very good at my job if it did.

That's a cold dry sense of humor there.

 

[Tojo]

It's inevitable that people will find it hard to realise that you can interpret Bond in different ways, thus when they see that Craig doesn't overstate & overplay everything like Brosnan did, they will be unsure.

Bond, in the books anyway, does not swagger.

 

[Agentsands77]

He doesn't seem to have that swagger and coolness to him.

Really? I think he's cool as hell. Cooler than Bond's been in a long time. Look when he's walking through that casino in the tux - that's classic and cool. He's tough, but he's definitely cool.

And it seems as though he doesn't have a sense of humour.

"Yes. Considerably."

"So you want me to be half-monk, half-hitman?"

"You noticed."

"That last hand nearly killed me."

Furthermore, there's a lot of humor that didn't make it into any of the footage thus far (you'll love some of the Vesper/Bond dialogue).

 

[spittingkitty]

daniel craigs face looks like a haggard turd

its a lock to be the worst bond movie ever

having a monkey face bond with blond hair and with as much charisma and personality as a piece of turd is hardly instilling confidence,

barbara brocolli must have taken it up the backside rather aggresively to suddenly chose daniel craig.

Yawn.

Obviously one of those lot from CraignotBond

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Even if Casino Royale is absolute f*****g bulls**t......it's a step up from Die Another Day.

It's win/win.

Why the hate for Die Another Day? I enjoyed it. Not Cinema's finest hour, but a ton of fun compared to most Bond films. Then again I only enjoy the Bronson and Connery films, with GoldenEye being my favorite.

Really? I think he's cool as hell. Cooler than Bond's been in a long time. Look when he's walking through that casino in the tux - that's classic and cool. He's tough, but he's definitely cool.


"Yes. Considerably."

"So you want me to be half-monk, half-hitman?"

"You noticed."

"That last hand nearly killed me."

Furthermore, there's a lot of humor that didn't make it into any of the footage thus far (you'll love some of the Vesper/Bond dialogue).

The thing about the film's humor is that it is completely dry. Feels to much like "Oh the world is ending, this stuff is serious." Lacking that almost suave touch you expect from Bond.

 

[Agentsands77]

The thing about the film's humor is that it is completely dry. Feels to much like "Oh the world is ending, this stuff is serious." Lacking that almost suave touch you expect from Bond.

What's the difference with the humor displayed in any of those lines and the dialogue from the all-time classic FROM RUSSIA WITH LOVE? Why aren't they "suave," so to speak?

Personally, I prefer that dialogue to the stuff we've gotten in the past few films. The darker, wittier humor from the early days of the franchise is worth going back to. Just check out this dialogue from CASINO ROYALE:

Spoiler

BOND: Can I offer you a lift home?
SOLANGE: That would really send him over the edge, wouldn't it? I'm afraid I'm not that cruel.
BOND: Perhaps you're just out of practice.

That's the kind of stuff I like in my Bond films. Not the stuff like "I trust Mr. Bond's been explaining his Big Bang theory" or "Now there's a mouthful." Ugh.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

That was a terrible line. You like that?

Also they aren't suave because they aren't delivered. To dry, to hard. It doesn't come off witty. More mean then anything else. Something a villian would spit out.

 

[Golgo-13]

I mean, come on people what movie hasn't had a negative review? If you look hard enough you can even find a few on cinamatic epics like 'Superman Returns' or Ang Lee's 'The Hulk'.....

 

[pointman]

Bond's wit imo was excellently delivered by Connery the best and although I believe Craig will pull off the subtle wit that'll keep me happy, I just hope we get to see Craig's Bond display his vast knowledge in the finer things in life and pretty much all round genera knowledge in most things of upscale taste.

 

[SolidSnakeMGS]

Why the hate for Die Another Day? I enjoyed it. Not Cinema's finest hour, but a ton of fun compared to most Bond films. Then again I only enjoy the Bronson and Connery films, with GoldenEye being my favorite.

Two words: Invisible. Car. That's very symbolic of the problems with this movie; it just goes to far to the point of ridiculousness.

Oh, and Halle Berry...

Yawn.

Obviously one of those lot from CraignotBond

Or someone with an opinion different than your own.

This review makes sense, and I can see how it would be authentic. I do NOT like Craig's looks, although I think he's a great actor and I like a lot of his movies. And I do NOT think he'll make a good Bond. Hell, just for starters, he's the shortest Bond so far.

In the trailer, I can kinda forsee this lack of charisma. It does look like he's underplaying the role a bit, to the unfortunate result of making it look like both he doesn't get the character and that he isn't even trying. Or course I know its a mere trailer, and that the movie could be different.

I'll still give it a chance, but I do not find any anticipation within myself like I did with previous Bonds. This whole reboot mess is rubbish.

 

[Agentsands77]

That was a terrible line. You like that?

Yeah. It's like something early Connery would say - and early Connery had the best dialogue in the franchise.

Also they aren't suave because they aren't delivered. To dry, to hard. It doesn't come off witty. More mean then anything else. Something a villian would spit out.

Well, you haven't heard all of it. And they certainly are delivered - "That last hand... nearly killed me" comes across as terribly witty, suave, and cool. Judging from that snippet, it's one of the best-delivered and coolest witticisms in the franchise (especially because of the context, which is just insanely cool).

Connery didn't try to make his lines sound witty. He'd just say them. When Bonds tried to sound witty (ala Brosnan, who made a big deal out of every time he said something that was supposed to pass as wit), it doesn't work. It's overdone and flat. Thank god we have a Bond who's giving his delivery some subtlety.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Two words: Invisible. Car. That's very symbolic of the problems with this movie; it just goes to far to the point of ridiculousness.

Oh, and Halle Berry...

I absolutely loathe Halle Berry. And while it may be over the top, it works fine in my view. I wasn't expecting a great film, but I do believe a saw a fun one. The opening sequence, sword fight, and Miss. Pike was more then enough for me to enjoy it. At least compared to about 13 other Bond films.

Yeah. It's like something early Connery would say - and early Connery had the best dialogue in the franchise.

Connery is possibly one of the most charismatic human beings to ever walk the planet.

Well, you haven't heard all of it. And they certainly are delivered - "That last hand... nearly killed me" comes across as terribly witty, suave, and cool. Judging from that snippet, it's one of the best-delivered and coolest witticisms in the franchise (especially because of the context, which is just insanely cool).

Connery didn't try to make his lines sound witty. He'd just say them. When Bonds tried to sound witty (ala Brosnan, who made a big deal out of every time he said something that was supposed to pass as wit), it doesn't work. It's overdone and flat. Thank god we have a Bond who's giving his delivery some subtlety.

I have heard him deliver some lines, and they just feel stone cold. Something out of the Matrix. Where the line is there, but the intention behind it is missing.

 

[Agentsands77]

I have heard him deliver some lines, and they just feel stone cold. Something out of the Matrix. Where the line is there, but the intention behind it is missing.

Did you see the video where he delivered "Well, we wouldn't want that, would we?" and "That last hand... nearly killed me"? If not, you're missing out on the aspect of Craig's performance is suave and cool.

You can't blame the man for being hard when he's in a dark and hard moment. In fact, that's how it should be - intense and dark. And lines like, "Well, I understand Double-Os have a very short life expectancy" and "Yes, considerably" should be delivered with that darkness. They're in very more serious contexts.

Craig's Bond is going to be cold and hard when he's bitter, and the trailers have showed mostly those segments. But it's showed almost none of the witty, fun banter between Bond and Vesper (sure, there's the "You noticed" line in the second trailer, but that's hardly indicative of the whole of their very fun back-and-forth), and it's showed no moment of dialogue wherein he's in one of the cool contexts (aside from the "Filming the Casino" video, wherein we get Craig's very wonderfully cool and suave delivery).

 

[Batman*]

Where have you seen all this movie footage Agentsands77 ?, could you post me a link to your source because the only thing I've seen is the trailer and I'd be interested in seeing more.

 

[Jack Napier]

Craig's delivery of his lines in the trailers reminds me of Connery in Dr. No, particularly the scenes where Connery shoots Professor Dent and says, "That's a Smith & Wesson, and you've had your six." And Craig ordering, "Get the girl out," reminds me of Connery a lot as well. Connery played the role as a a charmer, but could easily slip into a misogynist if a girl prevented him from accomplishing his mission. I think Craig will be able to play it similarly, and Brosnan had a problem playing that at all. I mean, how believeable was it that his Bond shot Elektra King?

The problem with Brosnan's movies was the studio knew Brosnan could market James Bond. He did all these watch ads, and phone commercials to coincide with the movies every other year in November/December. While there's nothing wrong with that, and while Connery marketed James Bond the same way in the 60s, Connery wasn't making up for the quality of his films in those advertisements. Brosnan's films after GoldenEye were always lacking something. Bond's scenes with Teri Hatcher were cringe-inducing, TWINE was a kidnap soap opera, and DAD was great until Halle Berry did that CGI backflip and the whole movie got carried away with CGI.

Casino Royale will blow us all away. And I could care less if half the fans don't like it. Half the fans would demand they up the CGI factor after Die Another Day, because they thought it was the best Bond movie ever. Half the fans don't know who James Bond is at all.

 

[AndrewBerger]

What we've seen of Craig's delivery reminds me of the way Humphrey Bogart would handle humor; dry, witty and smooth. I love it!

 

[Agentsands77]

Where have you seen all this movie footage Agentsands77 ?, could you post me a link to your source because the only thing I've seen is the trailer and I'd be interested in seeing more.

Go to the official site, open it up, and then go to "About the Film" and then click on "Videos" - there should be a whole set of "Making Of" featurettes for the film. The ones I'm specifically referring to are "Filming the Casino" parts I and II.

Connery played the role as a a charmer, but could easily slip into a misogynist if a girl prevented him from accomplishing his mission. I think Craig will be able to play it similarly, and Brosnan had a problem playing that at all.

Well, CASINO ROYALE does give Bond this line (and a few others in the same vein):

Spoiler

BOND: You're quite the romantic, Mathis.
MATHIS (amused): And you're immune?
BOND: No. But I've found that the only person you want really close to you is someone you can use as a shield. I'm afraid she's so tiny the bullets would pass right through her. Last thing one needs is a woman hanging on your gun arm.