Comics "fix" an X-Man

[Abaddon]

I'd consider fixing Rogue by going back a bit to when Sage accelerated her mutation. She'd be able to summon the abilities she's stolen in the past, but only for brief periods of time or the personalities will surface and try and take over. But then I'm afraid she might turn into an unstoppable superwoman again.:\

I'd also maybe give her an intersting storyline similar to this: http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showpost.php?p=8432823&postcount=70

 

[roach]

I've always hated Forge's power. "If I can think it, I can build it." So I'm wondering why he hasn't built a machine that turns air into food to solve world hunger, a machine that creates endless energy out of fusion to end the fossil fuel use...

Why dont they just have Forge built an Anti-Apocalypse gun so they can quickly zap him every time he shows up-

Apoc: Hey guys, its MEEEEEE
X-men: *yawn* *zap*
Apoc: Nooooooo!!!!!

Etc!

Because the way I understand his powers is that while he can create things like a machine to solve world hunger he has to actually build it with his hands...it doesnt just appear. So in all actuality he could have the blueprints for that machine but it could take him 100 years to make.

 

[masterj]

I'd fix Rogue by getting rid of Sunfires powers and giving her Ms Marvels again. The way i'd it is with Rogue having to sacrifice the parts of Sunfire she absorbed from him in order to save his life. For example after Sunfire has undone the Horseman brain washing and after having his mind and powers basically torn from him by Rogue his mind is in a critical conditon and Rogue then helps save his life by restoring what she stole. This could be done by the help of a psychic such as Emma. After giving Sunfire his powers back Rogue spends awhile with just her absorbtion powers and becomes real kicka$$. However after being totally thrashed by someone, Rogues mind starts to shut down. It has become so used to 2 minds coenhabiting her and having a back up concionce. Que the X-men find Ms Marvel, have a heart to heart with her, maybe fight a few Avengers and then Ms Marvel freewillingly allows Rogue to absorb her powers. A bit long winded but what do you think?

 

[Intheknow101]

I'd fix Storm, that way she can't have children. Can you all imagine if she managed to procreate? We'd have a dozen preachy, self righteous children screaming "I am a goddess speak to me with dignity!"

 

[Herr Logan]

I'd fix Storm, that way she can't have children. Can you all imagine if she managed to procreate? We'd have a dozen preachy, self righteous children screaming "I am a goddess speak to me with dignity!"

Haw!!

 

[Generation Lee]

I'd Fix the whole Jean killing millions crap although I think endsong had dealt with it. There was no cloned body it was all Jean.

And Tone Wolverine's healing factor down and stick him in his origin book for a few years and let him make guest appearances in other Titles now and again.

I'd have shadowcat go all Ninja when needed I really think Weadon should let rip with her come on she was trained by the best.

Scarlett Witch would have probability altering powers her mind could work out vest probalities that seem impossible.

Agreed with the Storm stuff cut the I';m a Godess crap. I'd allow a woman to write her then maybe she wouldn't be this boardline Bi-sexual skimpy Clothes wearing "goddess/Queen we have now. Its insulting in this day and age.

I would have kept the Hellions New Mutants, Cosiers, Alpha Flight and Paragons after Decemation as the only students at Xaviers and Danni would still be an Advisor as would Magma.

 

[roach]

Agreed with the Storm stuff cut the I';m a Godess crap. I'd allow a woman to write her then maybe she wouldn't be this boardline Bi-sexual skimpy Clothes wearing "goddess/Queen we have now. Its insulting in this day and age.

Yet the borderline bi-sexual skimpy clothes b!tch in Emma is somehow ok.

 

[Generation Lee]

Yet the borderline bi-sexual skimpy clothes b!tch in Emma is somehow ok.

No not at all but remember Emma uses men's weakness against them and to play them. I was just using Storm as an example.

 

[not_a_victim]

hahaha
Yeah, I realize his bones couldnt break, I was just trying to equate his healing time to ours, guess I should have been more specific.
Whereas a normal human bone would heal in about 6 weeks for a simple break, his healing time for a relevant injury would heal in a day or two.
I dont really kind to the idea of leaving any kind of mystical element to the healing factor. I think that is one of the problems in the marvel universe now, too much "its magic, you wouldnt understand" type stuff. I am perfectly willing to suspend my disbelief for some things, but for something where we know the scientific/biological/physiological reason something happens, we should just use that explanation.

Let me try this way:
It's wrong to say that Logan has a increased healing factor, then leave it at that. There is a background process that has to happen...
The background process is his body being able to process nutrients and use the nutrients to fuel body repair. The energy has to come from somewhere. From his food. A dramtically increased healing factor would have to be fueled with caloric intake.
This idea was kinda touched on in the Hulk movie. After Banner's first transformation, he eats about everything in the house. Also in the Flash tv series from a few years ago, I remember a scene where someone visits his house, and his kitchen is covered in empty food containers.
I still think Logan should not be affiliated with any team. Face to face, he could take about any human down, but he could use his stealth/ninja/creeping death skills with tougher opponents.

 

[Herr Logan]

hahaha
Yeah, I realize his bones couldnt break, I was just trying to equate his healing time to ours, guess I should have been more specific.
Whereas a normal human bone would heal in about 6 weeks for a simple break, his healing time for a relevant injury would heal in a day or two.
I dont really kind to the idea of leaving any kind of mystical element to the healing factor. I think that is one of the problems in the marvel universe now, too much "its magic, you wouldnt understand" type stuff. I am perfectly willing to suspend my disbelief for some things, but for something where we know the scientific/biological/physiological reason something happens, we should just use that explanation.

Let me try this way:
It's wrong to say that Logan has a increased healing factor, then leave it at that. There is a background process that has to happen...
The background process is his body being able to process nutrients and use the nutrients to fuel body repair. The energy has to come from somewhere. From his food. A dramtically increased healing factor would have to be fueled with caloric intake.
This idea was kinda touched on in the Hulk movie. After Banner's first transformation, he eats about everything in the house. Also in the Flash tv series from a few years ago, I remember a scene where someone visits his house, and his kitchen is covered in empty food containers.
I still think Logan should not be affiliated with any team. Face to face, he could take about any human down, but he could use his stealth/ninja/creeping death skills with tougher opponents.

I didn't mean to suggest that there should be a "magical" element to Wolverine's healing factor. I'm saying that it has always been known to do things a real human's biology could not even at a "normal" pace (recreating nerve tissue). There has always been some mystery to the healing factor, as they don't know how it works-- and the true value in that is just that they can't easily shut it down without using a mutant power inhibitor and that it can speed up when it really needs to (again, only up to what it was in the mid-nineties).

I'm fine with him eating more than a normal man of his size, weight and musculature would normally eat, but I don't want his general habits to change too much from what they were back when Wolverine was written properly. I don't want it to become a running joke.


Okay, Wolverine is an X-MAN, God dammit! He's been on a team for almost his whole run in comic books, and that's where he belongs, mainly. He's not meant to be a lone gun, he's just meant to be more "lone gunnish" than the rest of his teammates. Even when he was doing wetwork with Sabretooth, Maverick and the rest of the Weapon X operatives, he was a team player. He's competent as a follower (team member not in charge), a leader and a loner, and I think all of those aspects should come into play at different times. He should alternate between being a lone wolf and a leader in his solo book, depending on which X-Men are tagging along at a given time.

 

[not_a_victim]

He's competent as a follower (team member not in charge), a leader and a loner, and I think all of those aspects should come into play at different times. He should alternate between being a lone wolf and a leader in his solo book, depending on which X-Men are tagging along at a given time.

Sometime it seems that a mutant title is just that, Wolverine and a cast of hangers-on. He definately needs to have his appearances cut back.

 

[Herr Logan]

He's competent as a follower (team member not in charge), a leader and a loner, and I think all of those aspects should come into play at different times. He should alternate between being a lone wolf and a leader in his solo book, depending on which X-Men are tagging along at a given time.

Sometime it seems that a mutant title is just that, Wolverine and a cast of hangers-on. He definately needs to have his appearances cut back.

I already said his appearances should be cut back. One X-Men title and one solo title.

 

[not_a_victim]

I already said hi appearances should be cut back. One X-Men title and one solo title.

And I was saying I agreed with it.

 

[Herr Logan]

And I was saying I agreed with it.

You said Wolverine shouldn't be on a team earlier and didn't change your story, which means you don't understand that character.

There has to be a God damn good reason for him to quit the X-Men. It angers me a lot that I even have to explain this to anybody.
If you mean to retract that "no teams" aspect, then nevermind. If not, then I don't know what to say. Wolverine is a team player, and only someone who doesn't really know or care about the character would think otherwise. That's as ignorant as saying that Spider-Man is "just a normal guy, but with superpowers."

 

[not_a_victim]

You said Wolverine shouldn't be on a team earlier and didn't change your story, which means you don't understand that character.

There has to be a God damn good reason for him to quit the X-Men. It angers me a lot that I even have to explain this to anybody.
If you mean to retract that "no teams" aspect, then nevermind. If not, then I don't know what to say. Wolverine is a team player, and only someone who doesn't really know or care about the character would think otherwise. That's as ignorant as saying that Spider-Man is "just a normal guy, but with superpowers."

Didnt read all of your post. Just the first part. My fault.

 

[Optic Rage]

In all fairness..i dont think theres an X-man out there that i dont want to fix.

 

[Herr Logan]

Didnt read all of your post. Just the first part. My fault.

It's cool. No more need for quarrelin'.



In other news, I prefer Emma Frost as a villain. Her psychic affair-turned-relationship with Scott Summers is one of the stupidest moves ever (as were several of the major changes brought about in Grant Morrison's run). True, it makes a little bit of sense, since Scott Summers is a magnet for gorgeous telepaths (because only they can read his emotions, since he's all stoic and reserved and so forth), but that's no excuse for breaking up Jean and Scott. I mean that was a damn annoying couple, but they're far less annoying when they're happy and together and all that good stuff.

The X-Men don't really have that many great villains, so they shouldn't be tossing the White Queen and the Juggernaut over to the side of the angels.