Florida Pastor To Burn Qurans On 9/11

[sandwraith]

I'm not thrilled but I have to give this guy props for sticking to his convictions.

I'm a Muslim. Not a very good one but I have a firm understanding of what's right and wrong from both the religious aspect as well as the generally accepted laws of men.

This guy has no doubt a vision of Islam that cannot be changed, just as intense as the views of some terrorist/Islamist who views America as an enemy because some 'Imam' whispered rants of Zionist conspiracy into his ear. Considering all the heinous acts terrorists who are Muslims have committed over the years...Its understandable why this would happen.

Even I admit, "Islam is a religion of Peace" gets old when you see a suicide bomber kill a hundred innocent civilians as retaliation for whatever wrongs America/Israel allegedly perpetrated. These are things and actions which have shaken my faith many many times. But I'm stubborn. And I believe Islam, true Islam is still out there. And more often than not, it's overlooked because true Muslims don't make the news by blowing themselves up, championing Holocaust Denial theories or marrying child brides and committing honor killings. So what are the Muslims that don't commit any of these things called? Pedestrian?

That said, I'm not sure what the fuss is about when it comes to burning a Quran. It is an accepted form of disposing of the Holy text once they get too old. Mongols did it when they sacked Baghdad, heck, probably Muslims did it during the NUMEROUS Sunni-Shia wars which have come back to haunt us.

The Pastor is a man of conviction. I just hope he realizes there are men out there with similar convictions. And most of them won't be happy.

 

[JJJ's Ulcer]

So Terry Jones goes to Dearborn, Michigan strapped with a gun to apparently protest Sharia law (which seems strange as the Mayor of Dearborn pointed out, seeing as his city is full of strip-clubs, bars and restaurants that serve pork). And.... well, Terry doesn't know "how to shot web?" and ends up misfiring his gun. I have nothing to add. The article from Talkingpointsmemo pretty much says it all.

http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsme...tors_gun_accidentally_goes_off_in.php?ref=fpb

Quran-Burning Pastor's Gun Accidentally Goes Off In Michigan
Eric Lach | April 22, 2011, 9:55AM


Just when you thought the sad saga of Quran-burning Florida pastor Terry Jones couldn't get more absurd...

According to Southfield, Michigan police, Jones' .40-caliber handgun fired accidentally as he was leaving a television studio there on Thursday night. This is presumably the same handgun he said he intended to bring to his planned anti-sharia law protest in Dearborn, Michigan on Friday, though he's said he's come to Dearborn "totally in peace."

Police told The Detroit Free Press that Jones was getting into the passenger side of his car at 11:10 p.m. Thursday night, after an interview at the TV station, when the gun went off, putting a bullet into the floorboard.

"Officers heard a gunshot, approached the vehicle, asked Mr. Jones if he was OK," Southfield Police Lt. Nick Loussia said. "He was, and they also observed he had a gun in his hand."

Loussia said both Jones and his driver were carrying valid Florida concealed weapon licenses, and officers determined a crime had not been committed.

Jones is in Michigan to protest in front of, or near, Dearborn's Islamic Center of America, and the community has been wrestling with free speech and public safety issues in anticipation of Jones' actions.

"So, you are coming to protest against an imaginary threat that doesn't exist in our community," Jack O'Reilly Jr., the mayor of Dearborn, wrote to Jones in an open letter.

 

[Schlosser85]

And Jones establishes that he's even more of an idiot than we thought.

 

[Marx]

Good grief....

 

[Timstuff]

This sounds more and more like a slapstick routine from a silent film gone too far.

 

[SuperFerret]

I'm not thrilled but I have to give this guy props for sticking to his convictions.

I'm a Muslim. Not a very good one but I have a firm understanding of what's right and wrong from both the religious aspect as well as the generally accepted laws of men.

This guy has no doubt a vision of Islam that cannot be changed, just as intense as the views of some terrorist/Islamist who views America as an enemy because some 'Imam' whispered rants of Zionist conspiracy into his ear. Considering all the heinous acts terrorists who are Muslims have committed over the years...Its understandable why this would happen.

Even I admit, "Islam is a religion of Peace" gets old when you see a suicide bomber kill a hundred innocent civilians as retaliation for whatever wrongs America/Israel allegedly perpetrated. These are things and actions which have shaken my faith many many times. But I'm stubborn. And I believe Islam, true Islam is still out there. And more often than not, it's overlooked because true Muslims don't make the news by blowing themselves up, championing Holocaust Denial theories or marrying child brides and committing honor killings. So what are the Muslims that don't commit any of these things called? Pedestrian?

That said, I'm not sure what the fuss is about when it comes to burning a Quran. It is an accepted form of disposing of the Holy text once they get too old. Mongols did it when they sacked Baghdad, heck, probably Muslims did it during the NUMEROUS Sunni-Shia wars which have come back to haunt us.

The Pastor is a man of conviction. I just hope he realizes there are men out there with similar convictions. And most of them won't be happy.

Having conviction is admirable, but when that conviction is misplaced and misused, as it is here, it is reprehensible.

 

[8wid]

I think the only solution to the confusion of Islam and the violence of terrorism is to educate both sides by increasing self-literacy and free thinking.

 

[Anubis]

Heh, good luck with that. Only thing stupid people hate more than people that don't agree with them is learning stuff.

 

[chamber-music]

Their too angry to read

 

[Kelly]

The extreme islamists prey on poor, illiterate young men. They make them angry against the west, and use them...

 

[Schlosser85]

Kel is exactly right....and that's also why the mass media bears a large share of the responsibility for the violence this has spawned. Not excusing Terry Jones for anything, nor the extremists who committed the violence....but Jones is one pastor with a very small congregation who the vast majority of Americans view as a fringe lunatic. There was no reason for the media to inflate him into such a national news story, thereby A) giving him the notoriety he wanted and far more attention than he merits, and B) giving the extremists in the Middle East a great big piece of ammunition to whip up their supporters who, as Kel said, are often illiterate, uneducated, impressionable and angry, disillusioned young men who only know what their propaganda tells them of the US. Jones is a fringe radical....but the news made him, to a lot of those people, the face of American Christendom.

 

[Marx]

In the age of 24 hour news, anyone can become a celebrity.

 

[chamber-music]

The extreme islamists prey on poor, illiterate young men. They make them angry against the west, and use them...

Exactly the sad fact is these young muslim men can't even see they are being used. These extremists sell them the whole brotherhood line and then get them to blow themselves up instead of doing it themselves

 

[Pink Ranger]

Exactly the sad fact is these young muslim men can't even see they are being used. These extremists sell them the whole brotherhood line and then get them to blow themselves up instead of doing it themselves

In a sense, all organized religion is a way to keep poor people, especially men, in line, to keep them occupied with abstract belief and ritual so they don't question why so few at the top get to live at such a higher standard than they are.

But yes, with Islam and the Arab world, this use of Islam as a religion is so SCREAMINGLY obvious, yet nobody in the Western world really has the cajones to point this out.

 

[Midnyte_Sun]

US pastor burns Korans Again

A controversial Florida pastor has burned copies of the Koran and a depiction of the prophet Mohammed to protest the imprisonment in Iran of a Christian clergyman Youcef Nadarkhani.

The burning, attended by 20 people and streamed live over the Internet, was carried out by pastor Terry Jones' church in Gainesville, Florida on Saturday, The Gainesville Sun said, and video of the burning was uploaded to YouTube by the pastor's supporting group "Stand Up America Now."

The Pentagon had urged Jones to reconsider, expressing concern that American soldiers in Afghanistan and elsewhere could be put at greater risk because of the act.

Link: http://news.yahoo.com/us-pastor-burns-korans-urge-iran-clergyman-release-143247851.html

 

[Schlosser85]

Feeling starved for attention again?

Terry Jones is no more a "pastor" than I am, and everyone who attends his congregation and the burning should be ashamed of themselves.

 

[Paroxysm]

When will this guy die already!

 

[Hobgoblin]

When news hit in Afghanistan that Korans had been burned by the military, there was rioting and American soldiers were killed. Risking such another tragedy obviously means nothing to this cretin.

God would be ashamed that this guy calls himself a pastor.

 

[JJJ's Ulcer]

Ah jeez. I was wondering why this thread had been bumped. I was hoping against hope it was a spambot. No luck. This guy is like a cancerous tumor that goes into remission and then emerges again at the most inopportune time. Even Kim Kardashian isn't this much of an attention-****e.

I don't wish for people to die often. But I'd totally not care if this guy stroked out and choked on his stupid Colonel Custer mustache.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

He's an attention ****e and the media should just ignore him. On the other hand I as a Muslim think that it is sad that poor ignorant people will riot just because a book is being burned. The words are what's important, not the book.

 

[Marx]

...this "pastor" is clearly in need of attention again.

 

[Midnyte_Sun]

Most of the media have ignored him. Thank GOD.