Forever Evil

[HighFivingMF]

Why would Superman or J'onn dress as Batman?

 

[BlackMagicWolf]

exactly! WHY?!?!???!??

 

[Cain]

Yeah those 2 are definitely the real deal. Some fun misdirection in interviews before the event hyped as "THE JUSTICE LEAGUE IS DEAD!!!" is just that, misdirection to cause hype.

Now that the issue is here it is pretty unquestionable that that is Bruce. I'm looking forward to him pummeling Owlman. Also really looking forward to the Bruce/Lex dynamic. Talk about 2 sides of the same coin.

My only real gripe is that Cyborg is somehow miraculously alive. I'm all about suspension of disbelief but the dude has no heart and certainly could've been brain dead by the time they got to the red room. Let's see how Johns explains it in the end. Hope it's not too contrived and leads to a much more streamlined design for Cyborg in the end.

 

[BlackMagicWolf]

Well he was clearly hooked up to some sort of device which kept him "alive' but as to what I don't know.

I'm glad I'm not the only one can tell those two are the real deal.

 

[Shazam]

Why would Superman or J'onn dress as Batman?

That would remain to be seen....right? None of us saw the actually fight....right?

Remember.....Superman had Kryptonite poisoning going on....Firestorm was in the middle of curing him before everything went crazy. Batman was caring for Vic.......Then the syndicate shows up. Could Bruce have gotten Clark to safety.....then switched gear with him just to insure that their most powerful member remained free? I don't know......just throwing it out there! LOL

Please explain how Batman can knock down that door?

Those were not sound effects for explosions....

 

[Shazam]

Oh....I do like the Superwoman preggers plot line! Wow!

Trouble in paradise....

 

[Shazam]

And this.............

http://www.newsarama.com/19100-who-is-forever-evil-s-hooded-prisoner.html

Now, past history would make us think it's Alexander Luthor...........

But in this New 52, who knows? The Joker of Earth 3 , perhaps?

 

[Cain]

I think you should read Justice League #23.4.

I'm damn near certain that's going to be Alexander Luthor. Whether it's sr. or jr. is another matter though but it'll be fun seeing his interactions with Lex as well as Batman actually witnessing a more "heroic" Luthor. I'm more curious about "that thing that came to our Earth.", New 52 Anti-Monitor?

 

[Shazam]

I think you should read Justice League #23.4.

I'm damn near certain that's going to be Alexander Luthor. Whether it's sr. or jr. is another matter though but it'll be fun seeing his interactions with Lex as well as Batman actually witnessing a more "heroic" Luthor. I'm more curious about "that thing that came to our Earth.", New 52 Anti-Monitor?

What thing? Was that in FE #2?

 

[Cain]

Wait! so you're not even reading this event?

 

[Shazam]

Wait! so you're not even reading this event?

Yes I am..........I just read #2 this week........Luthor activating Bizarro....killing the guard.....

I just posted the Owlman / Superwoman preggers plotline being a great twist.....

I did not see anything about "a thing that came to our earth"

 

[BlackMagicWolf]

it was a reference to both the man they have tied up and the fact that their world was destroyed by something and is apparently coming to our earth. Look back at the conversation between Owlman and Ultraman in FE2

 

[Shazam]

it was a reference to both the man they have tied up and the fact that their world was destroyed by something and is apparently coming to our earth. Look back at the conversation between Owlman and Ultraman in FE2

Oh!!! Yeah I remember that convo now!!

Yeah.....I bet it's the new Anti-Monitor!!

Thanks for that!

 

[Hush]

I just caught up on about 23 comics 18 of which were forever evil related. Holy hell there were some ****** villains month issues, besides that Forever Evil #2 was awesome just awesome I can't wait to see how this unfolds. Of course batman survived too, that made me laugh.

 

[HighFivingMF]

Please explain how Batman can knock down that door?

... He's Batman.

 

[Hush]

Nuff' Said!

 

[Maximus One]

This is getting really good. Unfortunately my store only had holographic covers so I wasn't able to read nearly as many villain issues as I wanted. I read most of the main ones though. Really hope that hooded dude is Alexander Luthor.

 

[Hush]

I really hope it isn't Alexander Luthor, this would be the second time he was used in a Johns event and that is not very original to me if he is used again. We already have Lex, let him be the only Luthor.

 

[Shazam]

... He's Batman.

Its why I asked the question......

Those were not sounds of explosions.....but striking. But I guess we'll see....

 

[Cain]

I really hope it isn't Alexander Luthor, this would be the second time he was used in a Johns event and that is not very original to me if he is used again. We already have Lex, let him be the only Luthor.

Alexander Luthor and Alexander Luthor Jr. were pretty different characters though so the dynamics won't be the same as Infinite Crisis especially since the context will also be different. Frankly being that he was the hero of Earth 3 he's the only character that makes any real sense in terms of the hooded one's identity.

 

[HighFivingMF]

But imagine how much the internet would **** itself if it was Wally.

 

[Shazam]

I really hope it isn't Alexander Luthor, this would be the second time he was used in a Johns event and that is not very original to me if he is used again. We already have Lex, let him be the only Luthor.

I agree....I'm hoping for new twist......

Joker maybe..........Ras Al Ghul.........???

These are the kinds of guys that have the genius to be real threats to the CSA.

 

[Cain]

But imagine how much the internet would **** itself if it was Wally.

That would be such a nonsensical cluster**** that it'll probably throw me out of the entire event in one fell swoop. This is coming from someone who liked Wally West.

If it's the pre-Flashpoint Wally who has been accidentally thrown to another Earth when his Earth was reconfigured he'd likely become a villain because he remembers his wife and kids and would want to do everything in his power to bring his continuity back.

If it's the Wally from Earth 3 he should be some sort of villain since he was traditionally a hero. I don't know I just don't see how you can actually make something like that make sense. It's actually a case where I'm relieved comic book writers and editors don't cater to obsessive fanboys.

I think the most plausible scenario was the idea of Wally being the New Reverse Flash and coming to grips with the new reality and becoming more heroic down the line. But since the writers weren't allowed to use Wally in such a scenario which is why they created Daniel West I somehow doubt he'd be brought back as some kind of villain or anti-hero. Conversely I don't think most fans would want to see Wally brought back in such a role anyway.

 

[Cain]

I agree....I'm hoping for new twist......

Joker maybe..........Ras Al Ghul.........???

These are the kinds of guys that have the genius to be real threats to the CSA.

Dude, Joker got chopped to pieces when Owlman threw him into the moving propellers of a helicopter over in the Earth 3 story from Justice League 23.4. It is NOT the Earth 3 Joker.

 

[BlackMagicWolf]

The question here is this, who would Ultraman want dead while Ultraman wants alive? Also Owlman said the hooded person tried to break up their team. That doesn't sound like Alexander Luthor. He would want them all arrested and brought to justice, not broken up.

it sounds to me like it was a member of their team who betrayed them. That's the only thing I can think of.

But...then you have to remember what Ultraman said about "throwing him to that thing", they want to use him as a sacrifice, why? What makes this person so special?

Only Geoff Johns knows...