Game of Thrones - HBO part 2

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That was a very good episode, but not nothing amazing like HBO and its fans hyped it up to be.

The ****aki is finally hitting the fan though and I am really getting interested into this. Stark is a good man and a really likable character....but he just keeps making one bad decision after another. He could have destroyed Joffrey and the Lannisters from within, but he had to confront them head-on without a strong base (relying on Littlefinger, after ignoring is sound advice and seeing the Machiavellian schemer in his eyes?).

For someone who has no taste for politics, he really should not be here because he cannot win if he thinks everyone else will fight fair. With that said I hate all the Lannisters, except for Tyrion who is oddly my favorite character, so I hope before the end of this season wee see Jaimie Lannister die by Eddard's hand. In any case, they're just leaving themselves wide open for a Dany's invasion.

My thoughts.
 
DACrowe said:
That was a very good episode, but not nothing amazing like HBO and its fans hyped it up to be.

The ****aki is finally hitting the fan though and I am really getting interested into this. Stark is a good man and a really likable character....but he just keeps making one bad decision after another. He could have destroyed Joffrey and the Lannisters from within, but he had to confront them head-on without a strong base (relying on Littlefinger, after ignoring is sound advice and seeing the Machiavellian schemer in his eyes?).

For someone who has no taste for politics, he really should not be here because he cannot win if he thinks everyone else will fight fair. With that said I hate all the Lannisters, except for Tyrion who is oddly my favorite character, so I hope before the end of this season wee see Jaimie Lannister die by Eddard's hand. In any case, they're just leaving themselves wide open for a Dany's invasion.

My thoughts.
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In Ned Stark's defense, though, he also knew about his shortcomings re: politics and even tried to get his daughters back to Weatherfall, but them would rather stay at King's Landing. Ned's biggest mistake was to trust Littlefinger, after deciding to stay to visit one of King Robert's bastard offsprings instead of leaving the city on his advice (and consequently injured by one of Jaime Lannister's men), and in ep 7 he thought Littlefinger was an ally only to get a knife in the back for it. Ned may be honorable and also thick-headed at times, but he is also far too trusting. Now his family is clearly in danger thanks to his missteps, but he is still one of my favorite characters in GoT.
 
its Winterfell...and yea, like Corp said, Ned lives in the world as he thinks it should be, not as it really is
 
BlackLantern said:
its Winterfell...and yea, like Corp said, Ned lives in the world as he thinks it should be, not as it really is
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Yeah, it's Winterfell, my bad.

Btw, in the book Martin tried to differentiate the look of a Stark & Tully, which is where Catelyn Stark came from. He wrote that Tully usually have auburn hair & fairer complexion, and both Jon and Arya look like their father Ned Stark while rest of the children took after Catelyn, but imo they didn't reflect this difference in the cable series. And Michelle Fairley, who played Catelyn Stark, doesn't really look like the one that is described in the book. I can accept the fact that she's older since all the children from the book got aged up in the series, but they should've at least made her look like an older Catelyn Stark. My .02.
 
really? the way I read it Jon, Arya, Rob, and Bran all take after Ned, while Sansa and Rickon take after Catelyn
 
BlackLantern said:
really? the way I read it Jon, Arya, Rob, and Bran all take after Ned, while Sansa and Rickon take after Catelyn
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Hmm, I guess I'll go back and re-read it just to be sure, but that was what I remember about it.
 
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I like Ned. He is one of the few genuinely likable characters on the show (as in a good person, not just fun to watch). But when he took the job as the Hand, he should have known he was crawling into a nest of vipers. I don't care how reluctant he is, he took the job. And if you're going to play politics, you need to be able to think what everyone else is doing and try to understand them at all times. Ned thought he could be honorable and come out okay. Now, he is facing the chopping block and his family is in danger. Again, I just hope Ned gets his revenge on the incestuous Lannisters in some form, because it's becoming clear to me Ned is not going to win "the game of thrones." Sad, but true.
 
Ned took the job out of love for Robert and John Arryn. He knows he is no politician, in fact living the warriors life he has had very little time for a real education. He reads, writes, had a maester and septa available to him as well as a library of histories of Westeros because his dad was a lord ... but otherwise his schooling ended at 12.

As for how he fares in the game? There are two options available and he is not nearly as crafty or has a nest of spiders, birds or whatever othe names these spymasters might think up.
 
I've been getting caught up, I think I'm 1 or 2 episodes behind. I'm at the episode that ended with Ned's capture and his men being killed.

Bad things will happen to characters I like :csad:
 
Man that boy king is such a snide prick. I hope he bites it.
 
Darn it.
Why oh why did I do a Google search on Ned Stark :cmad::doh:
 
Dugath:

There are other clues out there that could have told you this was coming... like Sean Bean having another acting gig next season... the writing was on the wall....

but yeah... not wise to google search Ned before the end of the season.
 
It's not wise to Wiki anything on Game of Thrones either.
 
I have yet to see this week's episode, but is...

Is Bran's dream of the 3-eyed raven going to be explained soon? It's already been shown twice and then ignored the rest of the episode

I was glad to see Viserys get what he deserves. After Ned, Daenerys is my favorite character. I really like how she's embraced the Dothraki culture after starting out as an innocent, sheltered virgin.
 
Spidey-Bat said:
I have yet to see this week's episode, but is...

Is Bran's dream of the 3-eyed raven going to be explained soon? It's already been shown twice and then ignored the rest of the episode

I was glad to see Vaserys get what he deserves. After Ned, Danerys is my favorite character. I really like how she's embraced the Dothraki culture after starting out as an innocent, sheltered virgin.
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I'll try and be as spoiler lite as I can
My bet is that they'll do another one in episode 10. But don't look for a full explaination until a couple of characters show up in season 2.
 
ChickenScratch said:
Ned took the job out of love for Robert and John Arryn. He knows he is no politician, in fact living the warriors life he has had very little time for a real education. He reads, writes, had a maester and septa available to him as well as a library of histories of Westeros because his dad was a lord ... but otherwise his schooling ended at 12.

As for how he fares in the game? There are two options available and he is not nearly as crafty or has a nest of spiders, birds or whatever othe names these spymasters might think up.
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I understand that, but by accepting the job of Hand of the King (in short the guy who runs the country with as mediocre of a monarch as Robert), he has to know he is entering a world in King's Landing where men fight without honor and trust and allegiances are always in flux. In short, he knew he was playing a game of thrones (especially when Robert was on his death bed) and instead of taking the numerous options open to him to play the game, he refused to do so--thinking his honor would protect him. His inability to accept the reality of his position is why he is in danger right now. And it's tragic because he's a better person than the ones who have him by the balls now. And given you guys' continued mumblings of how "realistic" the author is with killing off characters I'm starting to worry that Ned won't get his revenge on Cersei and Jaimie, which is really disappointing.
 
DACrowe said:
I understand that, but by accepting the job of Hand of the King (in short the guy who runs the country with as mediocre of a monarch as Robert), he has to know he is entering a world in King's Landing where men fight without honor and trust and allegiances are always in flux. In short, he knew he was playing a game of thrones (especially when Robert was on his death bed) and instead of taking the numerous options open to him to play the game, he refused to do so--thinking his honor would protect him. His inability to accept the reality of his position is why he is in danger right now. And it's tragic because he's a better person than the ones who have him by the balls now. And given you guys' continued mumblings of how "realistic" the author is with killing off characters I'm starting to worry that Ned won't get his revenge on Cersei and Jaimie, which is really disappointing.
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Just keep in mind while watching this unfold. What goes around comes around, is very true in Martin's world. Power does corrupt also and makes people do things they normally wouldn't do.
 
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