Game of Thrones - HBO part 2

[ChickenScratch]

yet, I'm sure his conan performance will be condemned to dirt in liu of all the Ahnuld love.

I was hesitant at first but I'm fully behind this show now. At this point it's only the John snow bits that slow it down but that's probably because it has no effect on the rest of the plot at this time and place.

Jon Snow's story is way more important to the series even now than you would even notice. Remember, it's a game, and GRRM is great at misdirection.

 

[BlackLantern]

yea...Jons storyline starts to pick up in Book 2

 

[ChickenScratch]

Ok, I'm like half way through the episode. Up to Jon and Sam's first scene but I had to pause it. There's just so much skipped over in exchange for scenes that didn't even happen. It gets a bit tedious considering the story seems pretty well tailored to this sort of treatment.

 

[BlackLantern]

keep watching....it makes sense in tv form

 

[StarkvsRogers]

This show is just a great big rolling snowball of greatness... My review of episode 1x7: http://henchmanforhire.com/2011/05/game-of-thrones-1x7-you-win-or-you-die/

 

[ChickenScratch]

keep watching....it makes sense in tv form

Oh, I'm sure it does and those who are going in fresh are enjoying it. I am also enjoying it, but there are things that take you out of the moment, like added scenes, characters knowing stuff they should not know way too early in the story, etc.

As I said, I paused the show at Jon and Sam on the Wall, thus far it's the only scene from the book in there (I'm sure there are other scenes from the book further on, but it seems they enjoy the characters rather than the story at times). That's not to say the other scenes are less effective or don't move the story forward, but to me it is tedious seeing made up scenes when the ones as written work, GRRM's prose fits the HBO structure very well, no need for some of the additions.

 

[Shawn Wayne]

what day does ep 8 go up on HBO GO?

 

[Buford The Sly]

what day does ep 8 go up on HBO GO?

Next Sunday. That was a one time deal (I hope).

 

[Buford The Sly]

Oh, I'm sure it does and those who are going in fresh are enjoying it. I am also enjoying it, but there are things that take you out of the moment, like added scenes, characters knowing stuff they should not know way too early in the story, etc.

As I said, I paused the show at Jon and Sam on the Wall, thus far it's the only scene from the book in there (I'm sure there are other scenes from the book further on, but it seems they enjoy the characters rather than the story at times). That's not to say the other scenes are less effective or don't move the story forward, but to me it is tedious seeing made up scenes when the ones as written work, GRRM's prose fits the HBO structure very well, no need for some of the additions.

Only thing I missed from the books at this point was Jon going to Maester Amon and talking to him about Sam becoming his stewart. They're going to have to find a way around [BLACKOUT]Chett going after Sam[/BLACKOUT] later on for that. Other than that, who knows stuff they shouldn't at this point? If it's the Cersei + Jamie info, [BLACKOUT]it was always my understanding that pretty much "everyone" either knew or suspected. Littlefinger and Varys certainly already knew as well as Renly and Stannis.[/BLACKOUT]

 

[Buford The Sly]

for season 2 who do you guys want for Stannis Baratheon?

too bad mark strong hit it big recently since he would of been a shoe in

Tim Roth is available it seems. I hope they get him involved somehow. He could be great in a number of roles, mainly Stannis, Davos, or down the line if we get a season three Mance Rayder.

 

[Shawn Wayne]

Next Sunday. That was a one time deal (I hope).

Thanks, Buford. You're the Man in this thread

 

[ChickenScratch]

Only thing I missed from the books at this point was Jon going to Maester Amon and talking to him about Sam becoming his stewart. They're going to have to find a way around [BLACKOUT]Chett going after Sam[/BLACKOUT] later on for that. Other than that, who knows stuff they shouldn't at this point? If it's the Cersei + Jamie info, [BLACKOUT]it was always my understanding that pretty much "everyone" either knew or suspected. Littlefinger and Varys certainly already knew as well as Renly and Stannis.[/BLACKOUT]

Well I have not finished watching the episode so I have not seen that part with Sam yet. [BLACKOUT]But yes, I am referring to the conversation between Ned and Cercei. At this point it should be rumors. Heck, even most of the people in the know in the books don't know at this point.
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[Poeman]

Tim Roth is available it seems. I hope they get him involved somehow. He could be great in a number of roles, mainly Stannis, Davos, or down the line if we get a season three Mance Rayder.

Tim Roth as

Spoiler

Rayder would be amazing

 

[FVD]

Having not read the book yet I'm gonna continue from the end of the latest episode. Damn that Littlefinger!!!! I've been wondering how the show will continue [blackout]once Ned is executed. I'm sure it'll still be great with it's great story serving as the main focus....[/blackout]

 

[ChickenScratch]

There's a lot more to the story than any one character we may like. Anyone is up for being bumped off at any moment.

 

[chaseter]

What is this show about...I caught an ep yesterday where the kid was named King and absolutely nothing happened the entire episode except for dialogue and a naked man being tied to a horse.

Are there monsters or is it all men?

I hear good things but I need to know a bit more what this is about. Is it LOTR-esque or is it more reality based?

 

[Hush]

It's a land were magic has been extinct for thousands of years. I love Drago by the way ecspecially after sundays ep.

 

[Buford The Sly]

What is this show about...I caught an ep yesterday where the kid was named King and absolutely nothing happened the entire episode except for dialogue and a naked man being tied to a horse.

Are there monsters or is it all men?

I hear good things but I need to know a bit more what this is about. Is it LOTR-esque or is it more reality based?

Starting from the beginning is the best thing to do. This is more "reality" based than LOTR. You'll find no elves, orcs, hobbits, or walking trees. There are "monsters" though ... and naked men being tied to horses.

 

[Raiden]

What is this show about...I caught an ep yesterday where the kid was named King and absolutely nothing happened the entire episode except for dialogue and a naked man being tied to a horse.

Are there monsters or is it all men?

I hear good things but I need to know a bit more what this is about. Is it LOTR-esque or is it more reality based?

A Game of Thrones has so many stories from many developing plots, not to mention a large cast, and it makes it rather unwatchable if you decided to jump straight to ep 7 and wanted to make sense of it all. I suggest to go back to ep 1, and start your introduction on all the characters, their respective houses, and individual motives and personalities, to truely grasp this universe that George R.R. Martin has created. As for your question, it is like LOTR in the Third Age of Mankind, only instead of Elves departing for Grey Haven, you have dragons and magic disappeared for hundreds of years before. However, I have heard that magic will start creeping back to the realms later on.

 

[ChickenScratch]

Its nothing like LOTR. Magic, monsters and the like exist in the same way thry exist in this world. They have xreatures unique to their world but as of yet aside from the direwolves they have not shown up.

Its easier to explain as historical fiction set on another planet in an era roughly similar to our middle ages.

Yes magic does creep back in later, but its subtle.

 

[Rage]

Oh, I'm sure it does and those who are going in fresh are enjoying it. I am also enjoying it, but there are things that take you out of the moment, like added scenes, characters knowing stuff they should not know way too early in the story, etc.

As I said, I paused the show at Jon and Sam on the Wall, thus far it's the only scene from the book in there (I'm sure there are other scenes from the book further on, but it seems they enjoy the characters rather than the story at times). That's not to say the other scenes are less effective or don't move the story forward, but to me it is tedious seeing made up scenes when the ones as written work, GRRM's prose fits the HBO structure very well, no need for some of the additions.

Again... I think that they need those additional scenes (like Tywin and Jamie) to really allow the characters into the heads of the characters. It is so easy to do it in a book where they say something like Tyrion knew his father would... but on TV, you need some way to convey that exposition... hence the added scenes. Same with the Littlefinger in the ****e house.

An on the "secret"...

Spoiler

I always assumed that Littlefinger and the Spider knew about the Queen, her lover and the fact that the children were not Roberts...

they seemed to know EVERYTHING else about what Jon Arryn was doing.

 

[Rage]

Its nothing like LOTR. Magic, monsters and the like exist in the same way thry exist in this world. They have xreatures unique to their world but as of yet aside from the direwolves they have not shown up.

Its easier to explain as historical fiction set on another planet in an era roughly similar to our middle ages.

Yes magic does creep back in later, but its subtle.

Yup... another world is the way to think of it. This world has been somehow knocked off kilter and the seasons last for years or decades even. Summer can last a decade... but a winter can last a lifetime.

Magic does exist... but it is not widely used...science is taking over. Dragons existed... but have been extinct for hundreds of years.

There are other things that go "bump in the night" that seem to have been considered extinct... but like Bigfoot... there are sightings.

It was described as "the Sopranos in Middle Earth" and that is a pretty good discription. The show (and books) are much more about the people and their lusts for power, land and REVENGE!!!

 

[Raiden]

I've just finished reading the part that the ep 2 was based on, so it's still a long way to go for me to catch up with the cable series. But it is interesting to read about the section where they omitted in the show, like Bran's prolonged dream with the 3-eyed crow before he woke up from his coma, and that dream seems to be a harbinger of things to come, or maybe I read that scene wrong.

 

[Buford The Sly]

I've just finished reading the part that the ep 2 was based on, so it's still a long way to go for me to catch up with the cable series. But it is interesting to read about the section where they omitted in the show, like Bran's prolonged dream with the 3-eyed crow before he woke up from his coma, and that dream seems to be a harbinger of things to come, or maybe I read that scene wrong.

No you didn't read that wrong. [BLACKOUT]The three eyed crow is a big enigma in the series.[/BLACKOUT]

 

[ChickenScratch]

Yup... another world is the way to think of it. This world has been somehow knocked off kilter and the seasons last for years or decades even. Summer can last a decade... but a winter can last a lifetime.

Magic does exist... but it is not widely used...science is taking over. Dragons existed... but have been extinct for hundreds of years.

There are other things that go "bump in the night" that seem to have been considered extinct... but like Bigfoot... there are sightings.

It was described as "the Sopranos in Middle Earth" and that is a pretty good discription. The show (and books) are much more about the people and their lusts for power, land and REVENGE!!!

Just how the science of their planet works is a whole other topic. As well as their own knowledge of science which is way in advance of what we usually take for middle ages technology, like Winterfell having central heat piped through the entire castle, or Valerian steel (which is pretty much Damascus Steel or tamahogane) or the other myriad of metals they use that shows they understand the use of various chemicals (like the fact that they have brass).

The economy of the world is a lot more advanced too, this entire planet seems to know where everybody else is and trades with them.