Ghost Rider, Moon Knight, and Blade?

[InternetPeople]

As for vampires in the MCU, I've long said the best way to handle it: several centuries back, somebody sealed away the source of easy "black magic" ( Chthon ). This resulted in almost all the monstery things either dying, going into torpor, or drastically weakening in power. The result is, come the 20th century, vampires are an endangered species, and most people don't believe they ever existed. You have a few strongholds of their kind in remote places like Transylvania, and you have a double handful quietly wandering the world in various places, keeping a low profile less the few still-active orders or lineages of vampire hunters kill them.

Then, somebody accidentally or deliberately undoes the binding, and now? All the monsters and easy dark magic are coming back. . . .

I'd buy it

 

[Dasher10]

I'd rather it be that vampires hide in the shadows and haven't ever been seen until today. Few believe that they exist.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

I'd rather it be that vampires hide in the shadows and haven't ever been seen until today. Few believe that they exist.

You realize that this is in opposition to your wanting Dracula as he was in the comics to be what is adapted? If no one has EVER seen Vampires until today you can't really have Dracula.

 

[metaphysician]

You realize that this is in opposition to your wanting Dracula as he was in the comics to be what is adapted? If no one has EVER seen Vampires until today you can't really have Dracula.

Also, the only way that can be justified is if there are damn few vampires. Which is why my idea works so well, it explains why you have damn few vampires around in the modern era, while also allowing that to *change*.

 

[Dasher10]

Or it could be the Dracula was simply in hiding this entire time and spent several centuries not revealing himself to the world before resurfacing.

 

[ernesth100]

Ghost Rider requires too much CGI for Netflix so he can do with a reboot, 3rd times usually the charm. Moon Knight belongs on Netflix regardless. Blade can go either way, but I'd prefer he's on Netflix played by Michael Jai White, original choice was Michael B. Jordan, but he's in BP now so...yeah.

Personally I think they should do one big marvel horror R-Rated movie with a teamup against Mephisto and his army.


Ghost Rider, Werewolf By Knight, Blade, Man-Thing and an obligatory female character for good measure. All in a team up movie, and I think after the success of Deadpool, the public would eat it up. Maybe shove a little Marvel character cameo in there from Iron Man or someone alive and acive after IW and we got ourselves an MCU halloween hit.

 

[metaphysician]

Or it could be the Dracula was simply in hiding this entire time and spent several centuries not revealing himself to the world before resurfacing.

That only works if Dracula is the only vampire. Which, if you want to go that way, sure. It just means your starting point is "there is no vampiric society".

 

[Dasher10]

Ghost Rider requires too much CGI for Netflix so he can do with a reboot, 3rd times usually the charm. Moon Knight belongs on Netflix regardless. Blade can go either way, but I'd prefer he's on Netflix played by Michael Jai White, original choice was Michael B. Jordan, but he's in BP now so...yeah.

Personally I think they should do one big marvel horror R-Rated movie with a teamup against Mephisto and his army.


Ghost Rider, Werewolf By Knight, Blade, Man-Thing and an obligatory female character for good measure. All in a team up movie, and I think after the success of Deadpool, the public would eat it up. Maybe shove a little Marvel character cameo in there from Iron Man or someone alive and acive after IW and we got ourselves an MCU halloween hit.

You're thinking of Jennifer Kale and Satana. I approve of both.

And we do know that Man-Thing already exists in the MCU and was created by AIM since his ex-wife got killed in Iron Man 3 (assuming that she's actually dead since Extremis gave her a healing factor). I still am not sure if it's time yet for a Man-Thing reboot. And even then, would Man Thing be rebooted on TV or film side and if it's on TV, then how can Marvel afford his effects? If it's on film, then why give him priority over Eternals, Black Knight or Wonder Man?

The rumored Netflix series right now are Thunderbolts (who have too big of a lineup for a film, IMO), Blade, Ghost Rider and Moon Knight. If Marvel are to do yet another and slow down their production schedule further, I'd rather see it be Elektra over Man Thing since Elektra already exists, she has plenty of solo story arcs in the comics and she'd require a lower budget.

On ABC, Marvel didn't take the Mockingbird spin-off. Why would they take a show based on a rather atrocious film that was a box-office failure? They're allegedly doing a second half-hour sitcom and if you think that it's going to be anything other than She-Hulk when marvel have been working on a Hulk TV show and She-Hulk is the biggest sitcom property that Marvel have available to them. As for what'll air when Agent Carter used to? I have no idea but it might be. It might just be reruns or an original miniseries unrelated to Marvel.

On cable, it's less competitive than network TV but you need to look at what each channel caters to since they're all about niche marketing rather than general audiences. Freeform have a YA demographic that they're shooting for across all their programming. If they do a second Marvel show in addition to Cloak and Dagger, it'll probably be Runaways, New Warriors, Ms. Marvel or a show combining the casts of Young Avengers and Avengers Academy. Man-Thing is not a YA series. Man-Thing is a horror series aimed at adults. It wouldn't gel with everything else on Freeform.

On Disney Channel, I can see a Power Pack or Squirrel Girl series but Man-Thing? On Disney Channel? Besides the fact that you'd be putting a horror series on a channel directed at small children, it would also be a hard sell to have a character named Man-Thing with a phallic nose on the Disney Channel even if he were made cute and cuddly.

ESPN is the only remaining option and even then, I can't see them doing any Marvel series but NFL Superpro and even then that has a 99.999% chance of not ever happening. If it did happen, it would be late at night since basketball, baseball and hockey hog primetime and again, I would be incredibly shocked if Marvel would even pitch it. Why would Man-Thing ever happen on ESPN?

The ONLY place where I can see Man-Thing introduced to set him up for a team-up is another Hulk solo film which is dependent on the rights reverting from Universal. So please, don't mention Man-Thing again. He isn't going to happen.

 

[ernesth100]

Wow....you went into an entire rant on Man-Thing. I just thing he's a cool character. Which is why I think he'd be cool in a Midnightsons style team up.

 

[Midnyte_Sun]

Has CG become affordable enough yet for Ghost Rider?

 

[Dasher10]

Wow....you went into an entire rant on Man-Thing. I just thing he's a cool character. Which is why I think he'd be cool in a Midnightsons style team up.

It was still a bad idea. I'd rather wait for more series to be established before bringing Man-Thing in. He's cool but I feel like the best place for him would be a Hulk sequel with Leader considering that Leader already exists and AIM are involved in Man-Thing's creation. That's why I really hope that the rumors that the production rights to Hulk will expire in 2018.

As for Midnight Sons in general? I can see that happening if Marvel can use Morbius in Blade. There are a lot of reports saying that Marvel can only use Peter and May Parker in films distributed by them and not any of his supporting characters. If Marvel can use Morbius, then I'm all for it.

 

[metaphysician]

Has CG become affordable enough yet for Ghost Rider?

*looks at Legends of Tomorrow*

Nope. Even leaving aside everything else, you still need a convincing looking skull surrounded in convincing looking flame. And worse, since Ghost Rider is typically a bit of a brawler, you need it *up close*.

 

[Snikt]

I don't know, they said GR2's budget was roughly $48 million. And he looked 10x better than he did in GR 1.

Maybe it can be done. I'm sure whatever they're doing or thinking about doing with GR, they're seeing if it can be done well within the constraints of their budget.

 

[Yowza]

Budgetary concerns wouldn't be so prevalent if Marvel would consider maybe licensing out some of their horror related characters they know would be a bit jarring in the MCU. They've got so many projects lined up this is the only foreseeable way some of these horror related properties would get the financing they need to be great as either a high end television series or set of mid to somewhat high range budgeted movies.

 

[Silvermoth]

If they do Blade again I hope they follow the new comic series that's due soon where he has a younger, female protege who also kicks ass

 

[Loki882]

You mean his daughter? Yeah I could go for that, and if they could get Snipes back as the cranky, but still badass and ultimately well-meaning Pappa Blade, then all the better.

Ghost Rider would be hard to make look consistently good on a TV show budget I think, especially factoring his supporting cast and villains (many of whom would also be CGI-heavy as well most likely).

 

[venom892]

I'm still of the belief that Ghost Rider would be best introduced in a Dr. Strange sequel or an Midnight Sons ensemble. He could be Supernatural Hulk in terms of usage.

 

[metaphysician]

I don't know, they said GR2's budget was roughly $48 million. And he looked 10x better than he did in GR 1.

Maybe it can be done. I'm sure whatever they're doing or thinking about doing with GR, they're seeing if it can be done well within the constraints of their budget.

Ehh. . . I've watched clips of GR2, and I just can't agree with this. Not only did it look worse than the first movie, but it looked worse than basically all the SFX I've seen on any of the CWverse shows. Whatever it might gain from "flaming skull", it lost with the really, really terrible green screen fight scenes.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

For me GR can't be done on a TV show budget, even a Netflix one, well can't be done justice anyway. He is pretty much the most powerful earth based hero in Marvel comics, so to have him fighting street level bad guys would be a waste. Get him in the movies and let's see him face the likes of Zadkiel, a proper Blackheart, and of course Mephistopheles himself.

 

[Loki882]

The Hell-cycle in particular looked like garbage in GR 2, imo at least. And you could feel the cheapness when they shoot most of it in those really bland/desolate Eastern European locations (to save money).

 

[metaphysician]

He is pretty much the most powerful earth based hero in Marvel comics,

Um, no, not even close. He's a mid-tier at best, outside of one brief time where he ousted Mephisto. Against foes much above street level, he tends to get by mostly on "penance stare" and "I can heal from that", rather than raw power.

Even if you used a really broad and overly generous definition of "Earth-based", he's still not as powerful as Iron Man, or Vision, or Wonder Man, or Rachel Summers, or Jean Grey when she's got her Phoenix oomph, or Storm, or. . . quite a lot of other people.

 

[Loki882]

He also stalemated a particularly angry Hulk in World War Hulk. And Hulk never actually beat him, he just left.

 

[metaphysician]

Which was more than a little idiotic, like almost everything else in World War Hulk.

 

[Loki882]

Not really. The idea that Hulk should be able to walk all over him. That'd be idiotic.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Um, no, not even close. He's a mid-tier at best, outside of one brief time where he ousted Mephisto. Against foes much above street level, he tends to get by mostly on "penance stare" and "I can heal from that", rather than raw power.

Even if you used a really broad and overly generous definition of "Earth-based", he's still not as powerful as Iron Man, or Vision, or Wonder Man, or Rachel Summers, or Jean Grey when she's got her Phoenix oomph, or Storm, or. . . quite a lot of other people.

Sorry but this is totally not true, read the more recent comics, they say how powerful he really is. Plus, he has fought Hulk twice, and never lost to him once and you think Iron Man could beat him? Not in the slightest my friend.

Did you not see what Doc Strange said about him during the WWH fight?