Godzilla (2014) - - - - Part 13

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I loved this movie, basically because I love Godzilla. And this was Godzilla. I liked how it tried to capture some of the originals spirit, but yeah it would have done better with some more work with the human characters. Not knocking Taylor-Johnson, I like most of his movies, but if the movie had given more about him I think it would have been for the better. Because the human side of it was more survival and getting home, even though they kind of let that last ball drop at the end. I really think Edwards should go with his "Monsters" route and have the next main human character be the reporter type. It would work better than this first one in my opinion.
And I loved the slow build up. It worked great. This is not supposed to be a big monster action blockbuster, the marketing for it didn't help either. Like most I wasn't sure what kind of movie I was walking into, I expected a lot of Godzilla action and fast paced stuff. The next one I hope picks up the pace a little more, a shorter build up for sure but no need to do the whole movie as one big build up.
 
This movie aped the tone of the first film but didn't back it up with any real point. It excelled at neither being meaningful nor particularly fun throughout its run time.

The slow buildup was great, until that buildup completely fizzled out. time and time again.

I wish they'd hand this franchise off rather than wait for Edwards to come back from far, far away.
 
This movie aped the tone of the first film but didn't back it up with any real point. It excelled at neither being meaningful nor particularly fun throughout its run time.

The slow buildup was great, until that buildup completely fizzled out. time and time again.

I wish they'd hand this franchise off rather than wait for Edwards to come back from far, far away.

Legit question here: You've been here for months, repeating the same thing over and over. Why spend so much time on a film you dislike? I'm being genuine here, no snark. I honestly do not get the mindset of posting about a film you disliked for months. It boggles my mind. I mean, a few posts debating it here and there is fine-it's a discussion board after all, but this type of behavior has always eluded me. I heavily disliked Thor 2, but I only posted maybe 2 or 3 times on those boards and that's it. Over and done with. I don't see the point in continually popping in just to be negative and repeat myself.
 
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That should have been the ending:yay:

I thought the movie was okay, but I hated the way they "teased" us when it came to the fighting. Godzilla finally shows up, meets the monster...and they jump to talking humans, destroyed buildings etc.

6/10
 
I could see myself watching this movie from time to time, but it just isn't the kind of movie that I could watch over and over and over again and not get sick of it.

I don't know. When all is said and done, the film definitely felt like its script had exchanged hands four times. It really is a shame, because after all of the trailers and interviews, I wanted more than anything to be blown away by this movie. Just didn't play out that way.
 
I just can't help but feel people are overly harsh on this film for arbitrary and shallow reasons.

I'm not saying it has the deepest, most well acted characters of the year, but the film had a point and I think people miss it either to complain about the screentime of Godzilla or that Ford was boring.

I will concede that it was a bit of a mistake to [BLACKOUT]kill off Cranston[/BLACKOUT] in the first act but the narrative progression of the film is strong enough to overcome that misstep.

I've said it before and I'l say it again: I hate to see how people would react to Alien or Jaws if it came out today. Everybody jumps on that and says "THOSE FILMS HAVE GOOD CHARACTERS SO IT DOESN'T MATTER!!!" And I don't really think that matters. Godzilla is a lot like Alien in many aspects. Sure, it's not a claustrophobic horror film in space, but it's execution and how it delivers it's monsters is very similar.

In Alien all we do is get small glimpses of the monster before the camera cuts away. We don't really SEE anything until the last act when it's chasing Ripley and the confrontation in the escape pod. Every kill is mostly off-screen except the Chestburster. We don't really see Brett, or Dallas, or Parker or Lambert die. The most we see is a super quick shot of the Alien, or some body part like a tail, maybe a shot of a pained face (Parker) and that's it. The movie is mostly about how the people deal with the monster than the monster itself. The Alien I would argue has less screen-time than Godzilla.

And while it's subjective, the characters in Alien are all just as one-note as the ones in Godzilla. No, even moreso really. You may not like what Johnson did with his performance in Godzilla, but the script did give him an arc. Nobody, not even Ripley, has an arc in Alien. Ripley is just the survivor by circumstance, skill and luck. She, as a character, doesn't have any kind of big change or catharsis. She is the same person from beginning to end. No lessons, no personal growth.

This brings me back to Godzilla. People argue that the characters had nothing to do, and that is kind of the point. Elle (Elizabeth Olsen) doesn't have an arc, but she plays an important part. Every character is a representation of something. Elle is the humans embodied in one character. Instead of showing shots of a bunch of people all over the world looking saucer-eyed at the existence of giant monsters....we get Elle to experience it all through. We see her fear. Fear when she see's the news, fear at work when Ford calls her, and fear when she is trying to survive in the city as the monsters tear it up. She is the "human", the "us" that would try to go on existing in the face of this revelation. She is the "every person". She is an avatar for the audience.

So is Ford. Ford is the "Soldier"-the man tasked to be on the front lines of this event, it just happens he has a personal connection to it through his parents. I loved the parallel of birthdays played with in the beginning-like it's destiny. Some may find Johnson's performance too stoic and boring and that's ok, but they did give him stuff to do. It's almost like his family is cursed, mystically linked to these beasts and he destined to play his part in the battle. I loved the shot of the dragon sculpture being engulfed in water right before the bomb blows up, killing the MUTO eggs. At that time, Godzilla is getting his butt whipped, and if it wasn't for Ford, he may have been killed. The dragon sculpture is obviously meant to show that Godzilla's time is running out.

And later, Godzilla returns the favor. I'm not saying that Godzilla knew it was Ford on the boat and that he purposefully saved his life....but maybe he did. What was that look they shared, both beaten and tired, all about :shr: ? Was there some kind of understanding pasted between them? You may see that as stupid, but the Godzilla films (hell, Kaiju films in general) have a history of mystically linking people with monsters. I totally think Edwards wanted to subtly do something along those lines.

And people say the film wasn't a good representation of the intentions of the original film and it's strong anti-nuclear message. Ummmm, WAAAT? YES IT IS! The whole plot revolves around nuclear power and how horrible it is! Here we have a cycle of nuclear tests and incidences that in no way can spell out good things for us. We bomb Godzilla, only to give him more power (while not confirmed, I'm sure his breath powers came from the bombs). Our reliance on nuclear power awakens creatures that feed exclusively on said power which could be a great solution on nuclear armament..but nope! Even if the MUTO's ate all the nuc-bombs on the planet we're still f--ked because we are now not the dominate species on the planet...the MUTO's are! Nuclear testing and power was the whole damn problem to begin with! This is just as anti-nuclear power as the first film was....maybe even more-so because it's more involved in the plot!

Rant over.
 
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Solid movie. I loved how they teased us with Godzilla, but at one point this go over some limit from my view.

I personally expected more Godzilla and less human drama which had no purpose after Cranston and his arc. His son and son's wife were not that important. They were waste of time and screenplay until the end of movie where could be reunited. Same go for military perspective, whole HALO scene was waste of time. If they ended human drama with Cranston death and spend more time on Godzilla and his fight instead of getting view on events from Cranston son it would be great film.
 
You don't see much of the Alien in Alien but the Alien still drives the film. Even if the Alien is not present on screen the characters are indeed reacting and dealing with it. It is revealed that Weyland purposefully set them up in order to try and retrieve the Alien, Ash's secret mission.

The MUTOs are the Alien of this film. They are the source of conflict on every scale, even ultimately the Brody family drama. Remove Godzilla and little changes for much of the film.

I've made this argument elsewhere and in depth before so I'll spare you.


Also choosing to present a 300 foot monster that lumbers across a cityscape the same way other filmmakers presented a 7 foot alien in claustrophobic space ship is a questionable choice at best.

The characters in Alien are very much everymen characters but they are used in a different way. Alien is very much a haunted house film. Its does not attempt to be a drama.

In this Godzilla film they attempt to have a family drama at its center but many ultimately do not find the family compelling. I actually did find the father/son dynamic to be quite strong, and even once abandoning that the basic "I gotta get back to my family" story could have worked better than it did.

Olson has not a damn thing to do. Audience stand-ins need not be complete blank slates or non-active participants.
 
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This is wonderful.

Everything involving the MUTOs is wonderful.
 
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Apparently this is a still from young Ford's bedroom. In the universe of the film a, MUTO film already exists!
 
I'll be honest and say that whilst I liked the movie it wasn't the type of film that I felt I needed to see again anytime soon.
 
I wonder if any sort of fan edit could save this movie. It would be significantly shorter, that's for sure...
 
Edwards on Frank Darabont's contributions to the film.

“And Frank Darabont, he came in and gave a pass of the screenplay about two or three months before we started filming. A lot of his work remains in the film, but a big part of it is when the doors close on Juliette Binoche – this whole idea that there’s a gateway or a check point they have to get through, and that it would close, and you would see her die, and we’d have that very emotional moment. That was his biggest contribution. It’s the emotional peak of the film, potentially. That’s why he’s Frank Darabont.”

The emotional peak...in the prologue.
 
It wasn't a masterpiece, but Godzilla himself was iconic as **** in every single shot.
 
The film's Godzilla designs is one of my all time favorites.
 
Edwards on Frank Darabont's contributions to the film.



The emotional peak...in the prologue.

It was the emotional peak, and it being in the first few minutes of the movie was exactly the problem.
 
wouldnt it have been more interesting if they had done this instead:

Keep Bryan Cranston alive and at the center of this story with his search for what destroyed the factory and his life and have him interact with the creatures up until the end credits. Have throughout the movie him being in denial and never telling his son what happened the day the factory melted down. Have the story start in San Fran after the prologue with Cranston now living there as a burden to his son and family and the mutos wake up in the secret base near las vegas and have watanbe still do is scientist thing and have godzilla show up and fight them but have the film end up back at the site of the nuclear melt down and give some execuse that the muto laid eggs there and went dorment the day the plant melted down. Have the big fight culminate there in the abadoned city near the plant and have cranston finally reveal to his son that he was responsible for his wifes death by sending her into the area that got contaminated and sacrifice himself to kill/ weaken the muto's long enough for godzilla to finish them off. also side mission in the finale have brody jr still have to defuse a bomb that is set to detonate by the head general who thinks godzilla is still a threat but brody sees him as a potential saviour.
 
Having Joe sacrifice himself toward the end would have been stronger, I think.

As it is, he's the only character who gains human interest, and then they kill him off within the first half an hour, offscreen no less!

It's a bit slapdash.
 
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