Godzilla (2014)

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You guys are way too defensive about this movie.

RoboCop reboot was nothing special either.

Listen I'm very excited about this movie and I think it looks really good. But that doesn't make it a slam dunk yet.
 
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TheVileOne said:
You guys are way too defensive about this movie.

RoboCop reboot was nothing special either.

Listen I'm very excited about this movie and I think it looks really good. But that doesn't make it a slam dunk yet.
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That doesn't mean the article wasn't really poorly thought out and written. The only really valid concern is ping pong writing process the movie has had.

It complains about a lack of originality, pointing out a flying monster that might be Rodan or Mothra, ignoring the fact that it is neither and that the film has original monsters.

That few people saw Monsters doesn't change the quality of Monsters itself.

One wonders why they even bothered to write about the movie if they haven't paid attention to even the most obvious headlines.

Just kind of an odd article overall really.
 
The one on the right is the only one with the right(ish) color.

Not really a fan of the one in the middle. Too reptilian.

The one on the left would be great if it had the color scheme of the one on the right.
 
Soapy said:
The one on the right is the only one with the right(ish) color.

Not really a fan of the one in the middle. Too reptilian.

The one on the left would be great if it had the color scheme of the one on the right.
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I don't mind a green Godzilla, it's a good color on him. And you can never have too much reptilian Godzilla. Nevah.:oldrazz:

Distinctly reptilian Godzilla designs are my favorite.
 
redhawk23 said:
That doesn't mean the article wasn't really poorly thought out and written. The only really valid concern is ping pong writing process the movie has had.

It complains about a lack of originality, pointing out a flying monster that might be Rodan or Mothra, ignoring the fact that it is neither and that the film has original monsters.

That few people saw Monsters doesn't change the quality of Monsters itself.

One wonders why they even bothered to write about the movie if they haven't paid attention to even the most obvious headlines.

Just kind of an odd article overall really.
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Cracked is a humorist comedy website. I think you are taking it way too seriously and again being overly defensive.

Also, I think it was quite interesting how the article properly pointed out shots from this movie and Godzilla 1998 that were nearly identical.
 
Zillos cereal. :hehe:

What a monstrous breakfast.
 
Roose Bolton said:
The Showa Godzilla essentially went from Jaws to a superhero, that doesn't feel like a believable character arc to me, and his actual transformation wasn't really made a thing of in the films themselves. It was just a tonally shift brought on by a change of tastes in the audience at the time. With the Heisiei films he retained his sense of danger even at his most heroic, and it was mostly that the films themselves focused on those moments that made you think there was more to him.

Godzilla vs King Ghidorah may have had an inane use of time travel, but it actually took the time to show Godzilla's evolution of character, and portrayed him as something more than destructive monster. It showed the nobility that laid within his bestial nature. Plus it depicted his actual origin story. Regardless of time travel we still see him prior to his mutation, and we saw that despite his physical changes he still retained some of what he was. I think that's a reverent take on the character.

And where MechaGodzilla II succeeds is by taking the classic character of Rodan and making his whole relationship with Godzilla into something more heroic and in some ways beautiful. To me, that took the classic mythology and improved on it, gave it depth.

I do think that Kiryu was the best iteration of MechaG in the entire franchise, so theres that. And as I've said, GMK despite being so weird, was a great film, but Godzilla 2000 for instance, seemed like it was purely made to remedy the response of the 98 film, it was a paint by numbers Godzilla film without any greater ambition. To me it's middle range at best. And Godzilla vs Megaguirus was fairly meh as well. It was like Toho was coasting on autopilot for those first two movies before they realized that that **** wouldn't stick. Final Wars...now that was different and frenetic, but it was like the "best of" moments of the series, all done so fast and so crazily that nothing sank in. It was the Die Another Day of the Godzilla franchise.

What made the Millennium era fell lesser is that of those films, only one or two could be held up among the greats of the franchise, or really as great films in general. GMK and Godzilla against MechaGodzilla are the two I think that go beyond the by-the-numbers flavor of that era.
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The change was gradual with the Showa Godzilla is still a firm chain of character development. And is much more evolved out than the Heisei Godzilla given the films themselves.

Godzilla reigned as a monstrous villain in the beginning films, from Raids Again to Ghidorah the Three Headed Monster. (Here, we eventually witness the development of Godzilla's character from the translation of the fairies) By the end of the movie, Godzilla begun his change as a anti-hero. He still didn't care for humanity, or the world for that matter. But should any threat bigger than himself cross his territory, he was willing to step in and rid of it.

He didn't change completely into an Anti-Hero until Godzilla vs. Monster Zero, lasting all the way until Destroy All Monsters. From here we gradually see Godzilla acting as a force of nature, instead of a destructive monstrosity. By Son of Godzilla we see Godzilla becoming more than a destructive monster or a unrelenting force of nature, we see him developing as more as a character. One that can feel, and act beyond the basic instincts of his nature. Although it was still a slow process in his development, Godzilla didn't really care for Minilla in the beginning, like a crocodile, he would come and save the infant when need to. Even when training Minilla and teaching him to survive on his own, there wasn't much feeling, but you see Godzilla trying the fill the role that Minilla needed at the time.

By the end of the movie, after the battle with Kumonga, we see Godzilla walking away, completely unfazed by the ravages of the intense snowfall as he marched to leave the island before falling into hibernation. Minilla on the other hand, was too weak and exhausted from the battle, greatly struggling in trying to keep up with Godzilla but inevitably collapsing from the harsh weather.

In this instant we see Godzilla not noticing a thing, until he stops and indeed does take notice of the fallen Minilla. Here we see Godzilla processing everything, most likely he didn't understand right away that the infant is weak and couldn't make it off the island. But when he does and raises beyond that basic instinct, he fills the parental role that Minilla needs, watching over him as he endures hibernation with the small creature until things warm up again.

This is a great step in Godzilla's growing character. A development that is one of the most memorable and impacting. Godzilla still remained a Anti-Hero, Destroy All Monsters being the last time he remained in the role.

By Godzilla vs. The Smog Monsters, Godzilla is still an anti-hero to some extent, only defending his home against the destruction of Hedorah. He doesn't really defend humanity. By the end of the movie Godzilla basically acknowledges humanity for their help, but also warned that if they kept polluting he would destroy them like he did Hedorah. Though at this turning point, he slips into the defender of Japan. From from the rest of the remaining series Godzilla ends his development as a defender of Japan. Although by Terror of MechaGodzilla, he ends mostly as a hero. While it may have been tone shifts, they still provided a well spanned character development that is eternally memorable, and definitely much more memorable and unique than the Heisei Godzilla.
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Heisei Godzilla's origin wasn't really displayed in complete fullness. He was given a changed origin story. In this origin, Godzilla is a known dinosaur species called Godzillasaurus, and he was just a normal dinosaur overall. And he was fated to be mutated on Lagos Island by the same American fleets that were attacking Shindo's group in the 1940's. However, Godzilla's origin changed completely the moment they transported him to the Bering Sea and mutated by two nuclear submarine accidents, not nuclear tests. It has some material from the original origin, Godzilla being a dinosaur and mutated by radiation. But in general this is an entirely new origin.

There were no myths, no legends, no islanders worshipping him and sending him out sacrifices. Godzilla's true origin is a prehistoric monster whose assumed to be a cross species of dinosaur was reawakened and mutated by the devastation of nuclear testing from the sea, meaning that generally from the real origin story tied from Gojira, Godzilla was pretty much a monstrosity to begin with, the nuclear testings only furthered that through mutation. The Heisei Godzilla's given origin while creative, wasn't the actual thing.

Godzilla in Godzilla vs King Ghidorah had no real form of nobility. He was just defending his territory from military assaults and war. He was trying to save or protecting any of the Japanese soldiers or even Shindo. The fact that the Americans were the one who were being killed doesn't speak of nobility. They were the most obvious invaders doing all the attacking.

His moment with Shindo was a strong moment, you could see Godzilla remembering him from long ago, and the atmosphere almost seemed remorseful with a hint of lament. But it was just a small moment, again no nobility is seen. Memories? Sure. An ancient felt of a lost past? Certainly. Nobility? Nowhere to be found.
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Godzilla and Rodan did not have any ties together, nor any relationship that would bring the word heroic to mind. Baby Godzilla cried out to his "Brother" to save Godzilla, and the dying Rodan transferred its remaining energy to Godzilla. At best Rodan knew he wasn't going to make it, and knew he wasn't strong enough to save his own "Brother" from mankind and their MechaGodzilla. Giving his remaining power to Godzilla, who's clearly stronger than him and could be more than a match for the large mech, was clearly the only way that could save Baby Godzilla. There was no form of heroic nature, there wasn't any connection, or any kindness in saving Godzilla. Rodan didn't care about Godzilla, but the survival of his "brother" was the only thing that mattered, and Rodan was going to do everything in his power to make sure that his brother was safe, even at the cost of his own life.

That was a showing of the concept that nature was always going to find a way to come out on top against mankind, especially to protect something of its own.

In the classic relationship of Godzilla and Rodan, again there's no real connection or bond. Godzilla and Rodan both don't like each other, never have, never did, even to the end of the series. BUT what made them their force so memorable was that despite their indifference towards each other, they would set aside their differences to fight against a bigger threat together. Again, they don't care for each other, but they had the mutual understanding that if someone more dangerous comes and threatens their existence and their territory, they would crack necks and break backs as a united temporary force. This wasn't in Godzilla vs. MechaGodzilla II, and definitely not an improvement of the classic take. The classic take had much more depth. The 90's take wasn't, especially in the first draft >.>

I'll give the heisei Godzilla points for having a consistent character in its own trilogy, but Showa Godzilla and the Shinsei Godzilla incarnations all have their own unique natures and character traits. Pretty much show that Godzilla can be and fit many things, not just one distinct structure. And each one is just as timeless as the others before it. :yay: I'll just leave it at that :cwink:
 
KevanG said:
We have to go to Tatooine!

(You get a cookie if you get it)
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Something I've always wondered, was the Milk in Star Wars actually blue? Because real whole often shows up blue on film, like in There Will Be Blood for example. Cereal commercials don't use real milk for this reason, or at leas they used to not to, I don't know if the same effect lingers on video.

But yeah, I've always wondered if it was actually blue on set.
 
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Truth better be a new trailer with some monster fighting footage or a full on look at Godzilla.

OR SOMETHING.

JUST GIVE IT TO ME ALREADY.
 
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