Godzilla (2014) - - - - Part 13

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I think it would have been great to have Cranston's character live long to see Godzilla, what with all the marketing they gave him, I was disappointed it didn't end up that way. I think in retrospect now, I give the movie a 6 maybe 6.5. It ain't all bad, but it didn't live up to the hype. St the end of the day, I like it for mainly the monster action, just like I've done with every Godzilla movie, save for a few. Which, dispite all the damn cutaway a, the monster action was solid.

I've also kinda soured on Godzilla's face lol. Love the body, but some of those concept designs look better to me. But that's just my preference.
 
you could easily kept cranston alive because heck the following scene after the muto escapes the next morning watannbe points directly to cranston and kickass and says I need them. That was basically the movie itself saying we need this guy to keep the interest going and on the side gareth fighting the natural progress of the film by killing him forcefully. Could you imagine if in Jaws sheriff brody was the only interesting character and he got ate 20 minutes into the film and we were left with his only kids and wife at sea fighting jaws?

Most disaster movies you need soemthing to get the story going and once it gets going you need something to keep the pace moving positively. Cranston was that something for godzilla and they botched it. Now I dont know if cranston had schedule conflicts and couldnt do the whole film or what I just have the film itself to go off of. Heck correct me if Im wrong but wasnt cranston the poster child during the press circuit leading up to the release?
 
Those scenes and the ones with Cranston are basically the only scenes worth watching. I also find it lame to compare this to Alien or Jaws even, because in those movies, the characters were actually interesting.

And I can't believe just how childish that ending is. The city is totally ruined, probably millions of people dead, nuke fallout to worry about, and the news can only come with "the king of monsters, saviour of our city?". And people actually cheering. So freaking dumb. I really really wanted to like this movie, but it's impossible.

Holy crap you make a good point! And people blasted Man Of Steel for having a ending like that but gives this a pass. Crazy.
 
Lol Godzilla is a destructive force of nature, Superman is someone who cares about lives.


Godzilla destroying a city is a lesser of two evils, as opposed to Superman letting a city get destroyed and snapping a neck. Crazy.
 
It may not be canon, but in the novelization, it's stated that the people were cheering because he saved them, and also at the same time because he was leaving them.
 
Lol Godzilla is a destructive force of nature, Superman is someone who cares about lives.


Godzilla destroying a city is a lesser of two evils, as opposed to Superman letting a city get destroyed and snapping a neck. Crazy.

Yes. He LET the city get destroyed. Le SIGH... He LET Zod activate the World Engine, which did most of the damage. He LET Zod smash him through buildings. He LET Zod heat vision the ONE building that actually does collapse during their fight... Oh wait... That's right. THE HERO IS IN THE MIDDLE OF A FIGHT. He's not LETTING Zod do anything. He's stopping the villain from going on his minutes before promised one man genocide of the human race, which he proved he was capable of simply by giving the order to start terraforming the planet, the process that Superman STOPS, and which again, is the actual source of the flattening of many blocks of mid town Metropolis. Oh, that's right... the entire city in MOS is NOT destroyed. A SECTION is. How do I know this? Cuz in the film we see it is so. The actual film and not the imaginary one people apparently saw and bring their criticism too. No film is perfect. There are surely things that will and will not appeal to each person's objective tastes, but the criticism MOS gets far too often isn't based on that criteria. It's based on things people claimed happened in the film that objectively just did not.

Seriously... :whatever:
 
While I completely understand the argument people put against Superman in MOS when it comes to the lack of "awareness" if you will for civilian life, I also recognize that Superman was being far more pragmatic about the whole situation and focusing on the bigger picture which was the world engine and Zod.

Had he not focused on those two then the whole planet would have been destroyed as we knew it. He had no other choice. What's worse? Losing thousands of lives or 6 billion? It sucks putting it that way but that's what was going through his mind.
 
Sigh....people just LOVE the superman destroyed Metroplis argument.
 
the godzilla and MOS comparison are the same issues I have with last years pain and gain and wolf of wall street. Both films were making fun of real life situations that ruined peoples lives in some form in a dark comedy kind of way but yet Bays film gets critically panned and Scorcesse's gets an oscar nomination. Heck wolf of wall street went even further than pain and gain if you ask me. Just more examples of people being clueless and blind.
 
Completely did not realize that this comes out on DVD and blurry next week!
 
The difference between Godzilla's presence in the old movies and the 2014 is the old movies were only 90 minutes long for the most part so having him appear for 15 minutes is fine. In the new one you're tacking on an extra half hour and hes only really seen at the end, rest of the movie are cock teasing shots of Godzilla.

My point is in the old movies when Godzilla showed up he actually did something, destroyed a city, fought a monster, etc. while in the new one its show his face, cut away, show monsters just locking horns, cut away. It becomes frustrating because I don't care what anyone says you go to a Godzilla movie to see Godzilla destroy and mess stuff up. It got so annoying to me that by the time the monsters actually fought at the end I didn't care because the boring plot and human characters made me so disinterested in the rest of the movie.

Basically the ways that Godzilla's appearances were structured AND the long run time worked against this movie in a huge way. Had they thrown in a few smaller monster battles culminating in that giant fight at the end it would have pleased me and a hell of a lot of other fans. I probably could have overlooked the boring monotonous human characters had they done that but when you promise a movie about Godzilla and don't really deliver until the last 10 minutes then something is seriously wrong.
 
It almost becomes indulgent when directors make movies based on old properties close to three hours long. Like when we get the inevitable Gilligan's Island adaptation are we going to follow each ****ing plot line for every castaway?
 
Let's not bring Jackson's issues into this.
 
I actually thought this was one of the best Godzilla movies ever. I really enjoyed it as a longtime fan.
 
I actually thought this was one of the best Godzilla movies ever. I really enjoyed it as a longtime fan.

Me too, and i felt that the film gave such respect to the legacy of the Godzilla character in how he was presented and showcased here. Only seeing 8 mins didn't bother me because not only is that nothing new for Godzilla, but those minutes were gold.
 
Me too, and i felt that the film gave such respect to the legacy of the Godzilla character in how he was presented and showcased here. Only seeing 8 mins didn't bother me because not only is that nothing new for Godzilla, but those minutes were gold.

Exactly.
 
Guys, this is a GODZILLA thread. GODZILLA! Take this crappy Pain & Gain vs Wolf of Wall St discussion elsewhere. It has abolsutely NO relevence to this topic. None. Zilch. Nada. So far off-topic that it isn't even funny.
 
Just watching it again, there so many little details in Godzilla's face. The eyes, the nostrils...there's definitely a sense of him being an old soul.
 
^ Absolutely, that's one of the things I loved most about the design. There was a hell of a lot of detail & it all showed. Everything they did helped in showing him as being an actual character & not a CGI creation.
 
Me too, and i felt that the film gave such respect to the legacy of the Godzilla character in how he was presented and showcased here. Only seeing 8 mins didn't bother me because not only is that nothing new for Godzilla, but those minutes were gold.

Exactly. I grew up watching Godzilla movies, and aside from Final Wars (which is ridiculous and absurd fun), most of Godzilla's movies don't feature Godzilla nearly as much as people would expect. This is why the movie didn't bother me, really.

I really enjoyed this movie, though I do recognize that it is not without its flaws. Bryan Cranston should not have been written out so soon, especially when he gave the best performance of the movie (aside from Godzilla, of course. :cwink:). I really do believe that people would not have been complaining about Godzilla's limited screentime nearly as much if Cranston had been around for most of the movie.

While I do think that Aaron Taylor-Johnson, Elizabeth Olsen, and Ken Watanabe did fine in the movie (I know some will disagree with me on this though), Cranston was easily the most interesting character. It was a baaaaad idea to kill him off that soon. The general audience would have been more invested in the human characters and human-centric scenes if he had lived, thus making Godzilla's limited screentime not a big deal.
 
I've also kinda soured on Godzilla's face lol. Love the body, but some of those concept designs look better to me. But that's just my preference.

You just called Godzilla a "butterface".....:woot:
 
Exactly. I grew up watching Godzilla movies, and aside from Final Wars (which is ridiculous and absurd fun), most of Godzilla's movies don't feature Godzilla nearly as much as people would expect. This is why the movie didn't bother me, really.

I grew up watching Godzilla and all of the old "monster" movies....in almost all of them the main monster is rarely seen and usually only seen in the last 3rd of the movie. Those movies were built on suspense...not instant gratification like so many of the modern movies.
 
I grew up watching Godzilla and all of the old "monster" movies....in almost all of them the main monster is rarely seen and usually only seen in the last 3rd of the movie. Those movies were built on suspense...not instant gratification like so many of the modern movies.

Yeah, Godzilla doesn't even show up until about halfway through terror of mecha godzilla. That movie actually focuses pretty heavily on the villains.
 
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