Gojira or King Kong?

[Flexo]

Well, anyway, most of what you seem to be picking is not bad effects, but designs or choices which you seem off.

It's not a problem with the designs, the execution was just poor. They didn't fool me into believing what I was watching.

 

[TheSaintofKillers]

No, not that. It didn't make me think "Slimey" it made me think, "Wow, that looks just like other glossy/crappy CGI."

Then, watch it again someday. You'll probably notice what you though at first sight wasn't bad CGI, but something in their designs that turned you off.

At least, it's the easiest explanation I can think of right now. But since you'll probably never watch it again (since you hated it so much), it's kind of futile of me to debate with you on that.

 

[TheSaintofKillers]

Now THAT'S how you make a dinosaur movie in our days and ages.

THAT'S impressive. How can we go back to FX like Kong when we had that ten years before ?

(I can excuse a low japanese budget monster movie, but a 200 millions dollars blockbuster american movie of not looking like that ? Never)

 

[TheSaintofKillers]

The king, in all of his original glory. Such a great beast to behold, even 50 years later.

 

[thealiasman2000]

By the way, "Jurassic Park" is also better than Jackson's "King Kong".

 

[Flexo]

By the way, "Jurassic Park" is also better than Jackson's "King Kong".

Hurray random opinions!

By the way, Jackson's "King Kong" is way better than 90% of Spielburg's films.

 

[Wilhelm-Scream]

Spielberg has trouble making a complete "good film".
He makes movies with incredibly good parts, all the elements of a great film, and then ruins them. .

His only truly "great" film is Jaws, but even there, the effects suck ass.

EDIT: Oh, I haven't seen CEotTK since I was a kid. It may be "great".

 

[Flexo]

Spielberg has trouble making a complete "good film".
He makes movies with incredibly good parts, all the elements of a great film, and then ruins them. .

I know; it's like his super power.

 

[Wilhelm-Scream]

His super power is amassing wealth.

 

[Flexo]

His only truly "great" film is Jaws, but even there, the effects suck ass.

Yeah... well, I found Duel good along with the Temple of Doom.

While on the topic of Jaws... Jaws had terrible effects (that damned mechanical shark) yet we all remember the shots from the shark's point of view.

Kong's poor effects will most likely be forgotten, or we'll stop caring about them, and it's amazing ones will be remembered.

 

[Flexo]

His super power is amassing wealth.

Hello, Spielberg... I kid, I kid. There must be several poor Jewish people.

 

[Wilhelm-Scream]

I know one.

 

[The Lizard]

I feel the need to be a total kaiju nerd and point out that its not necessary to refer to Godzilla as Gojira for accuracy's sake. The name Godzilla was invented by Toho itself, not the American distributors of the film. When the movie was released in Japanese-language theaters in California in 1955, Toho made up the "Godzilla" name as their own transliteration for Gojira. Some Japanese language books of the time interpreted the Japanese ji sound as "zhi" or "dzi" in English, and of course the ra sound falls between "ra" and "la" in pronounciation.

The biggest difference is the way Americans say GOD-zilla, when we should say GOAD-zilla, but the whole "god" thing plays into something big and scary, so that works too.

My geek-out is done. Thank you.

 

[Wilhelm-Scream]

Good, 'cause, sorry, I was raised with Godzilla. He's Godzilla to me.

 

[My vengeance]

I feel the need to be a total kaiju nerd and point out that its not necessary to refer to Godzilla as Gojira for accuracy's sake. The name Godzilla was invented by Toho itself, not the American distributors of the film. When the movie was released in Japanese-language theaters in California in 1955, Toho made up the "Godzilla" name as their own transliteration for Gojira. Some Japanese language books of the time interpreted the Japanese ji sound as "zhi" or "dzi" in English, and of course the ra sound falls between "ra" and "la" in pronounciation.

The biggest difference is the way Americans say GOD-zilla, when we should say GOAD-zilla, but the whole "god" thing plays into something big and scary, so that works too.

My geek-out is done. Thank you.

I've used both versions,so I'm in the clear.

 

[Ultimate Movie-Man]

Meh.

 

[Bad Superman]

Kong is da king.

 

[Ultimate Movie-Man]

For sho.

 

[Gabe99]

Legendary sets up a possible 'Avengers' style crossover for King Kong and Godzilla
Could they stop by 'Jurassic World' on their way to 'Skull Island'?

While I wouldn't exactly call it a shock, it is a thrill to see Legendary come out strong and stake their claim on "Godzilla 2." The real treat of them going back for a second film is going to be seeing how Toho lets them play with the other toys in the toy box.

One of the things that became clear as they showed their "secret" Monarch footage today is that they have big plans for the Godzilla series. Gareth Edwards has a very dry British wit, and that was on full display when he did his taped message for the audience from San Francisco where he's supposedly supervising the rebuilding of the city. He talked about how he needed to take a break from the pressure of working on high-profile properties that fanboys will have opinions about, a lovely nod to his impending "Star Wars" adventure, and then was interrupted by Godzilla, who was on Alcatraz island, unhappy to be caged in by the military.

The introduction of the three new monsters they plan to use in the sequel was pretty great, done through shadows and suggestion, and I'm totally down for a movie with Mothra, Rodan, and Ghidorah all showing up to rumble. I laughed out loud at the final title card that just read, "Let them fight." I guarantee that whatever movie Gareth makes with these characters next time, it won't just be a repeat of the peekaboo strategy of the first film. I think Edwards is smarter than that, and there's no need to play coy with Godzilla himself.

What I'm most curious about is the other trailer they showed at the end of the Legendary panel, because it feels to me like this is another possible example of the Marvel influence at work. To their credit, Legendary kept this one completely under wraps until now, but I'm not sure I get the point of a stand-alone remake of "King Kong." True, it doesn't look like they're doing a straight remake in the traditional sense, but they revealed the big ape in all his glory at the end of a long tracking push-in through the island, over the wall, past other creatures barely glimpsed. The reaction in the room was, to say the least, confused, and it's more because no one was expecting it than as a real reaction to the idea.

When I called home after the panel to talk to Toshi and Allen, my kids, I knew they'd lose their minds over the idea of which monsters Godzilla's going to get to fight this time. And they did. Or rather, Toshi did. He likes to be the go-between, the one on the phone, conveying the conversation to Allen. To some degree, I agree. Talking to a six year old on a cell phone he's holding is like trying to shave a pilot while he's taking off from the deck of an aircraft carrier. As I listed each one, Toshi would repeat it to his brother, and they'd both give me an "OH MY GOD" or "THAT'S AWESOME." I live off their enthusiasm like I'm a vampire. It's the best thing, and the notion of seeing Rodan, Mothra, and Ghidorah totally works for them.

Then I told Toshi about the last trailer. I described some of the shots, but I didn't tell him about the reveal, and then I told him the title. "You know who lives on Skull Island, right?"

"King Kong," he replied. "That's preohhhhmygodTHATMEANSHECOULDFIGHTGODZILLA!! DADDYARETHEYGOINGTOHAVEHIMFIGHTGODZILLA!!
ALLEN!ALLEN!KINGKONGISGOINGTOFIGHTGODZILLAAAAAAA!!!!"

And then he got excited about it.

At nine, he immediately got the inherent promise of bookending the Legendary panel with those two films. I'm not pretending I have access to some secret game plan. I'm just saying that when a nine-year-old kid's first thought is that it would be amazing to see the monsters from both ends of the Comic-Con panel come together in what every studio is chasing today, a "shared universe."

When the Monarch "secret footage" played, the title cards were very direct. "There is one secret we were never told. There were others." The implication is that the various governments of the world have conspired, even at the end of a world war, to keep a secret about giant monsters that exist in more than one place.

I had a sneaking suspicion they might announce a subtitle for "Godzilla 2" and that it would be very smart to call it "Monster Island." Well, if they've got another island they can cue up as a possible destination for a third "Godzilla" movie, even better. It certainly looks like they've put themselves in the right position to have a clash of the icons for the first time since the preposterously silly 1962 film.

We'll see when they get moving on all of this, and how much appetite audiences have for giant monsters kicking the crap out of other giant monsters. I just know that in the coveted demographic of "kids who live in my house," this entire plan is a smash hit already.

 

[Bruce Malone]

I wonder if Legendary really will try to do a King Kong vs Godzilla? It almost seems like its destiny with them owning the rights to both.

However if they go by canon there is actually a big size difference between the two of them. Kong is 25' or 50' depending on the source and godzilla's like over 300' I think?

 

[antonydelfini]

Some of the Spielberg comments in this thread greatly disturb me.

 

[redhawk23]

I wonder if Legendary really will try to do a King Kong vs Godzilla? It almost seems like its destiny with them owning the rights to both.

However if they go by canon there is actually a big size difference between the two of them. Kong is 25' or 50' depending on the source and godzilla's like over 300' I think?

Kong is with Universal, Godzilla is at WB.

 

[scifiwolf]

Wow, three threads from last decade in one morning.

 

[Quasimod0]

King Kong has always been my favorite of the two. The new Godzilla movie almost changed that though. He was awesome in that movie

 

[Galactus123]

King Kong