Goyer's Venom script?

[Sabretooth]

Anybody know where I can find the script for the Venom film that got canned?

 

[gvcool2]

there was a script?

 

[ScarletSpider]

Yeah I remember being told about it before, something about the symbiotes coming from some ancient spider-planet, so Spider-Man wasn't needed for the origin, and Carnage was the villain etc. I don't know where the script can be found I'm affraid.

Thank ***** that film was never made.

 

[nolan's roll'n]

Yeah I remember being told about it before, something about the symbiotes coming from some ancient spider-planet, so Spider-Man wasn't needed for the origin, and Carnage was the villain etc. I don't know where the script can be found I'm affraid.

Thank ***** that film was never made.[/QUOTE]

 

[Sabretooth]

Wow. Nobody has the script?

 

[Joker]

the script never leaked, there was a review on some site, or goyer talked about it or something, that's all we ever saw

 

[Donnie Darko]

is there anywhere we can see a review of the script or anything?

 

[jaydawg]

I've read a plot summary that broke it down, but not the actualy script. Just like everything Goyer, it was ass.

 

[gvcool2]

I've read a plot summary that broke it down, but not the actualy script. Just like everything Goyer, it was ass.

you mean everything except batman begins right?

 

[Lantern Venom]

Yeah I remember being told about it before, something about the symbiotes coming from some ancient spider-planet, so Spider-Man wasn't needed for the origin, and Carnage was the villain etc. I don't know where the script can be found I'm affraid.

Thank ***** that film was never made.

Now that Raimi is gutting Venom, I'm wishing more and more that Goyer could have made that film. It would have been edgy and dark like Blade instead of having a band camp reject playing a ferocious villian.

 

[CConn]

Now that Raimi is gutting Venom, I'm wishing more and more that Goyer could have made that film. It would have been edgy and dark like Blade instead of having a band camp reject playing a ferocious villian.

I don't know about you, but I'd take a comic accurate Brock/Venom played by a band camp reject than a movie based on this crap:

Yeah I remember being told about it before, something about the symbiotes coming from some ancient spider-planet, so Spider-Man wasn't needed for the origin, and Carnage was the villain etc. I don't know where the script can be found I'm affraid.

Thank ***** that film was never made.

 

[Dr.Dude]

While I'd love to get a chance to read the script, mainly out of curiosity.... I can tell even from just the bits of information that have leaked out and Goyer's own disinterest in the project, that overall it sounds like this movie just wouldn't have.... worked.

The fact of it is, Venom's entire character is too latched onto Spider-Man to ever be seperated. The character is sooo closely connected to the ol' wallcrawler that taking Spidey out not only changes the story, but fundamentally alters both Eddie and the symbiote's characters and prime motivations.

Spider-Man 3 has the right idea with its approach --- Venom is the climax, the third act to Spider-Man's symbiote saga. It all ties together and makes for a terrific, full story in the end that just wouldn't work if you cut out any of the necessary elements or rushed any of it.

But all that said, I wouldn't be opposed to seeing a Venom spinoff movie someday.... as long as Carnage is in it....

 

[Lantern Venom]

I don't know about you, but I'd take a comic accurate Brock/Venom played by a band camp reject than a movie based on this crap:

That's just it, the Venom in SM3 is going to be anything but accurate.

 

[Lantern Venom]

While I'd love to get a chance to read the script, mainly out of curiosity.... I can tell even from just the bits of information that have leaked out and Goyer's own disinterest in the project, that overall it sounds like this movie just wouldn't have.... worked.

The fact of it is, Venom's entire character is too latched onto Spider-Man to ever be seperated. The character is sooo closely connected to the ol' wallcrawler that taking Spidey out not only changes the story, but fundamentally alters both Eddie and the symbiote's characters and prime motivations.

Spider-Man 3 has the right idea with its approach --- Venom is the climax, the third act to Spider-Man's symbiote saga. It all ties together and makes for a terrific, full story in the end that just wouldn't work if you cut out any of the necessary elements or rushed any of it.

But all that said, I wouldn't be opposed to seeing a Venom spinoff movie someday.... as long as Carnage is in it....

That's true. There would need to be a very good reason for Venom to harbor the animosity that is the basis of the Venom character. Apart from Spidey, it would have to be a completely new backstory.
However, that's what Goyer did with Blade. He overhauled the character and made it work on the big screen. If he had worked from a decent premise, then I'm sure he could have brough out Venom's attributes.
In the future, I'd be 100% behind a spinoff movie w/ Venom & Carnage.

 

[Hunter Rider]

Spider Planet ?

 

[CConn]

That's just it, the Venom in SM3 is going to be anything but accurate.

How so? From what (limited) information we have, his origin seems to have remained relatively intact, and his characterization (as Brock at least) was pretty spot on in the Comic Con trailer. Venom's screen time looks like it's going to get short-changed (and I am quite concerned about that), but that's not a matter of accuracy.

And in any case, all of that is a thousand times better than an effing Spider-Planet.

 

[cerealkiller182]

What if a Venom spin off can be made? I know Goyers script involved a train wreck the was holding two criminals (Brock and Cassidy) and two symbiotes. Instead, Brock is being transported with the symbiote and Cassidy. The symbiote "gives birth" and then the wreck and eventually Venom vs. Carnage (the whole lesser of two evils style)

 

[Lord Blackbolt]

I won't mind a Venom spin-off at all....After Spiderman 3... if that movie really is the last Spidey movie for a while. Though...that's only if Brock or Venom even survives Spidey 3

 

[Sabretooth]

I think Venom could definitely work as a spin off. Just please,no Spider Planet.

 

[Lord Blackbolt]

I wonder where Venom will come from in Spidey 3?

 

[Mr. Vice]

Yeah I remember being told about it before, something about the symbiotes coming from some ancient spider-planet, so Spider-Man wasn't needed for the origin, and Carnage was the villain etc. I don't know where the script can be found I'm affraid.

Thank ***** that film was never made.

If that would've ever been created, then....

 

[kaijunexus]

That's just it, the Venom in SM3 is going to be anything but accurate.

lol @ you, dude. just...lol @ you.

 

[Lantern Venom]

How so? From what (limited) information we have, his origin seems to have remained relatively intact, and his characterization (as Brock at least) was pretty spot on in the Comic Con trailer. Venom's screen time looks like it's going to get short-changed (and I am quite concerned about that), but that's not a matter of accuracy.

And in any case, all of that is a thousand times better than an effing Spider-Planet.

Raimi's stupid "mirror image" route is anything but accurate. Instead of getting a massive, brooding Brock, we get a whiny, teenager style envy story. The story vaguely resembles Brock origin and Topher doesn't resemble Brock's essential physicality in the slightest.

I hope--with all my heart--that a director comes along someday and gives Venom his just due. A guy like Goyer would be the man for that.

 

[gvcool2]

Raimi's stupid "mirror image" route is anything but accurate. Instead of getting a massive, brooding Brock, we get a whiny, teenager style envy story. The story vaguely resembles Brock origin and Topher doesn't resemble Brock's essential physicality in the slightest.

I hope--with all my heart--that a director comes along someday and gives Venom his just due. A guy like Goyer would be the man for that.

ye just look at Blade trinity for evidence

 

[ShadowBoxing]

Raimi's stupid "mirror image" route is anything but accurate. Instead of getting a massive, brooding Brock, we get a whiny, teenager style envy story. The story vaguely resembles Brock origin and Topher doesn't resemble Brock's essential physicality in the slightest.

I hope--with all my heart--that a director comes along someday and gives Venom his just due. A guy like Goyer would be the man for that.

Actually I was rather impressed with the final look of Topher as Brock. He has obviously put some weight on. Also I heard the Venom will be bulky from reports and will preserve the comic look.

Furthermore, while Topher may not look like Brock, in the trailer he certainly captured the facial expressions and manurisms I associate with the character from the comic.