Guardians 2 or Thor: Ragnarok?

Which one is your most anticipated?

  • Thor: Ragnarok

  • Guardians of the Galaxy 2


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^ Jane Foster's Comedy Squad :funny:

But yes, far less, or ideally none of that, and more Sif, Warriors Three, and the Nine Realms. Let's get spacey!
 
The first Thor is tied with Iron Man 3 for my favorite MCU movie. I'm hoping Thor: Ragnarok can return to the greatness of the first one, and exceed it.
 
Thor: Ragnarok, easily. I liked Guardians Of The Galaxy, but not as much as most people.
 
It also needs to cut down on Jane Foster's comedy squad and actually give the Asgardian characters some proper screentime/development. The Warriors Three (especially poor Hogun who got like TWO MINUTES of screentime in TDW) and Lady Sif have been woefully underused so far. Heck Lady Sif got more development/more to do in one episode of the SHIELD show than she got in both Thor movies combined (and potentially her own archenemy in the form of Lorelei). Even Hemidall and Odin, while they've gotten more to do, could still be better used.
Oh and actually explore the Nine Realms. TDW was a giant tease in that regard. We have multiple franchises in the MCU that currently take place on Earth. Thor has this unique setting/mythology, USE IT!!. It's the same problem that the 2011 Green Lantern movie had and that GOTG was wise to avoid.

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Right now I'm more amped to see Guardians 2, but I hope that Thor 3 is not a rush job and is careful to craft a satisfying third part to the saga, even if it's probably not "the end of Thor"... They should realistically address Loki having imitated Odin and what happened to him. Of course, what this means for Hopkins and how he feels about returning is unknown. hopefully he'll come back. If not, recast, I guess..
 
I just think that Thor needs to drop earth entirely for this film. Have him explore the other realms. Make it feel huge in scale. It is Ragnarok after all
 
It needs to tone down the Loki and give us a villain who doesn't completely suck. One of the main problems with The Dark World was they spent so much time on Loki that you ended up with two new villains who didn't have any personality or motivations. That and it had some serious pacing issues as well.

I don't know if that's a fair request, Loki was easily the best thing about TDW.

What they should do is take advantage of such a rich universe like Asgard and the nine realms because so far all of that has been rushed and kind of irrelevant.
 
This is actually pretty hard to choose one because I think both films will have major implications for the MCU as a whole. But given that I enjoyed GOTG immensely I give it the edge.
 
Ragnarok

GOTG 2. Thor 2 was easily one of the weakest entries in the MCU and I have little desire to see the follow-up.

GotG wasn't much stronger than TDW, IMO.

Right now I'm more amped to see Guardians 2, but I hope that Thor 3 is not a rush job and is careful to craft a satisfying third part to the saga, even if it's probably not "the end of Thor"... They should realistically address Loki having imitated Odin and what happened to him. Of course, what this means for Hopkins and how he feels about returning is unknown. hopefully he'll come back. If not, recast, I guess..

It'll be almost 4 years in the making, not rushed at all.
 
I don't know if that's a fair request, Loki was easily the best thing about TDW.

And it still didn't save the movie. Sometimes you can get too much of a good thing.

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GotG wasn't much stronger than TDW, IMO.

TDW was absolutely the weakest film of Phase 2 IMO. Probably the weakest MCU film in general since Iron Man 2.
 
And it still didn't save the movie. Sometimes you can get too much of a good thing.

TDW was absolutely the weakest film of Phase 2 IMO. Probably the weakest MCU film in general since Iron Man 2.

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Not everyone likes the same things. Some of us happen to love the movie.
 
I believe Marvel realizes how important bolstering the Thor franchise is to the entire MCU. Especially because it seems fans have gotten so accustomed to a certain level of quality of output from Marvel Studios and the bar has been raised so high that people are easily disappointed. For their film universe to continue to expand they really can't afford to disappoint. In this way, Marvel have become victims of their own success I guess.

I'm more of a glass half full kind of guy and enjoy all of their films. I haven't been disappointed yet. But you can see by the choices they make they are striving for the best possible quality. Alan Taylor was not invited back to make part 3 like Whedon, Gunn and the Russos. GOTG has stability that Thor doesn't presently have so yeah there's a lot of promise for the sequel. Yet at the same time GOTG could very well have been lightening in a bottle and repeating that success will be hard.

It's not like Captain America: The First Avenger's lukewarm reception prevented the sequel Winter Soldier from being a kick ass film. And that featured new unproven directors. It will be very interesting to see who Marvel chooses to helm the third Thor film. I think Ragnarok is going to deliver the goods.

Marvel is not going to just discard everything. They don't want to alienate the fans they already have. They just need to take it to a new level just like they said they would.

They need to stop holding Thor back though. It's time he really cuts loose. Showcase his abilities the way Winter Soldier did for Cap. Show his fighting prowess, his warrior's madness and his Godblast. Show him utilizing his powers of weather manipulation in battle and more flying. Let Thor battle an intelligent foe physically much larger than himself like Surtur, Mangog, Ymir, Fenris or Jormungand. And do not let him KO this enemy with one blow like he did with the Jotun beast and the Kronan. Give him a real challenge.

Give him a stronger character arc. Pull inspiration from the best Thor stories like Surtur Saga, Blood Brothers, Reigning, Ragnarok, For Asgard etc.

Less sci-fi and more fantasy. Merge Taylor and Branagh's approaches and crank it up a notch. I think after Dr. Strange hits theaters Marvel can start exploring more far our concepts. Introduce Hela as a concept - go beyond the idea of everything being technology. That's going to limit the potential of this franchise. Frigga's funeral scene hinted at more. Run with that.

Now that Frigga is dead, I'd really like to see them reveal Gaia as Thor's true mother, establishing Thor's connection to Midgard even further and adding depth and conflict to his relationship with his father. (Hopkins will be back. He mentioned coming back for Thor 3 while promoting Noah.)

Introduce the Valkyrie, Nidavellir and Alfheim - we need to see more of the Nine Realms. Reveal allies as well as enemies. Reveal Muspelheim. Open up the scope of the world Thor inhabits and possibly set up a climactic battle between races in the battle for supremacy in the wake of Loki's treachery. LOTR/Star Wars mashup style but not just swords and lasers. Something on the scope of Oeming's Ragnarok. Utilize beings with elemental attacks like the frost giants and fire demons and brutish power of creatures like Ulik and the trolls.

And for Od's sake give us more of Sif and the Warriors Three!
 
Not everyone likes the same things. Some of us happen to love the movie.

That's nice. The thread was asking for my opinion an I gave it. I don't find TDW to be a particularly good film and because of that I'm not exactly excited for a sequel unless I hear good things on the creative front.
 
That's nice. The thread was asking for my opinion an I gave it. I don't find TDW to be a particularly good film and because of that I'm not exactly excited for a sequel unless I hear good things on the creative front.

Fair enough. But since Taylor won't be coming back I don't see how one necessarily has much to do with the other. What we do know is Marvel has acknowledged that they need to take Thor to another level and that they are taking this film as seriously for Phase 3 as they did with Winter Soldier for Phase 2. Sounds like a pretty good reason to be excited for it if you ask me.
 
TDW was absolutely the weakest film of Phase 2 IMO. Probably the weakest MCU film in general since Iron Man 2.

Indeed, I'm not a huge fan of TDW. But, as I said, GotG isn't much stronger overall. GotG is massively overrated, IMO.
 
For me it's GOTG 2 simply because the first one was a much better theatrical experience for me than either of the first two Thor films. The fact that Thor 3 will have the Ragnarok story line makes it a much closer call though.
 
I think guardians of the Galaxy 2 is the most anticipated because that's the one with the pointy kitty in it
 
Thor: Ragnarok for me.

GotG was a very good movie but I prefer Thor and his "world" and if they can capture the epic feel of what the threat of Ragnarok should be then it should be something special. Then there's of course the fact that the third Thor movie is the one that Feige talked the most about being important for the entire phase, which further increases the stakes.
 
I'll go Ragnarok.

I still don't get this contention that Thor has never gotten the movie he deserves. I still think Thor (the first film) is a 5 star movie.TDW wasn't bad either,but I can't see folks calling the first film subpar by any means.:shrug:
 
Guardians 2. First, because it should be the film from Phase 3 that most directly deals with the build up to Infinity War. Secondly, I liked Guardians of the Galaxy much better than either Thor film.
 
Although I did not like the first Guardians film, I'm excited for the second due to, as stated above, the connections to the Infinity War.
 
Ragnarok. I have a feeling it's going to be huge. 4 years in the making by the time it comes out.
 
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Thor: Ragnarok if anything I think I am more excited for that than I am Guardians 2
 
Guardians 2 by default. We know the cast is returning. We know James Gunn is returning.

We know nothing about Thor Ragnarok really and The Dark World was a huge disappointment.

Hopefully Marvel finally realize Thor and his amazing mythos haven't been done justice and we get a vast improvement.
 
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