Guess the critic's rotten tomatoes meter for GL

[Sam Fisher]

Quality depends on perception. Boxoffice results is the best indicator of audience perception out there. If the film makes a lot of money and the ticket prices for the picture are about the same as the national averages, then it was not only a successful film, but popular. The RT meter is a biased indicator since it only looks at critics reviews and those of ordiary people (fans or not) who bother to go to the website to vote. That is not representative of the population of people who actually go to moives let alone the ones that actually did go see the movie and this is what basically devalues the authenticity of the RT meter.

So would you call Transformers 2 a good movie because it made crap loads of money?

 

[Sam]

So would you call Transformers 2 a good movie because it made crap loads of money?

Well, i dont want to be Devil's Advocate here, but he used the words "successful" and "popular. Not "good".

Transformers 2 is not good (i dont think it is, for that matter), but no doubts it is successful and popular.

 

[dnno1]

So would you call Transformers 2 a good movie because it made crap loads of money?

And when you look at the meter you will see that although the movie got a 20% on the tomatometer (i.e. the critics), the audience gave it a 76%. The box office results of the film indicates that it was more popular than it was rated though. To sume it up and to answer your question, it was a good movie.

 

[Sam Fisher]

And when you look at the meter you will see that although the movie got a 20% on the tomatometer (i.e. the critics), the audience gave it a 76%. The box office results of the film indicates that it was more popular than it was rated though. To sume it up and to answer your question, it was a good movie.

But that's the thing. Just because it's popular doesn't mean mean it's a good movie. You can't honestly tell me Transformers 2 is a good movie just because it has a 76% on RT.

 

[JeetKuneDo]

One billion percent!

 

[dnno1]

Its not an indicator of audience perception. Its an indicator of Audience interest though I think we're saying the same thing. Are you saying there is a correlation between the quality of a film and box office? Because a film can be successful and popular but still be of bad quality because it had great marketing.

And it does look at reviews of ordinary people through user reviews. How could it devalue the authenticity of the RT meter? It does its job of rounding up critics reviews and gives an average of how many critics liked or hated a film.

But that's why before I see a film in theaters, I do take in account IMDB too despite that not being 100% accurate due to fans.

Whether people take this as a film being good or bad is in the eye of the beholder, but the RT meter to me is often pretty spot on about a film most of the time.

How are you going to know if an audience liked a film without spending a lot of money to do a survey? The box office results should tell you right a way and is all that really matters.

 

[dnno1]

But that's the thing. Just because it's popular doesn't mean mean it's a good movie. You can't honestly tell me Transformers 2 is a good movie just because it has a 76% on RT.

If it is popular, that means the a lot of people wanted to see it and it also must mean that they got a certain level of enjoyment or entertainment from whatching the film. To the movie goer, that what really matters, not what some film critic though about the film. Are you trying to say he or a small group of people who bothered to go to a website and review should decide what you should go and see?

 

[JAK®]

Box Office measures appeal. People found giant robots beating each other up for 2 hours appealing, so Transformers 2 made a lot of money.

Most people here are movie fans, so they don't understand that when your average person goes to see a movie, it isn't anything to do with appreciating the artform; it's everything to do with having a good time, mostly with a group of people. This is why teenagers/young adults are the largest demographic when it comes to movies.

This is also why slow, introspective and 'artistic' movies do significantly less at the box office despite critical acclaim. They have less broad appeal, watching these movies is an investment of your time and you need to be in the right frame of mind.

 

[terry78]

Any movie that comes off as weird or slow will not really fly with the mainstream, unless there's a hook like a popular actor or something. I took my parents to see Inception at the dollar theatre on Sat. afternoon, and my dad liked it, my mom said it was confusing and weird.

 

[Paradoxal]

Any movie that comes off as weird or slow will not really fly with the mainstream, unless there's a hook like a popular actor or something. I took my parents to see Inception at the dollar theatre on Sat. afternoon, and my dad liked it, my mom said it was confusing and weird.

Lol my parents said the same.

 

[Mrs. Sawyer]

How are you going to know if an audience liked a film without spending a lot of money to do a survey? The box office results should tell you right a way and is all that really matters.

A film doesn't have to be good in order have high box office results. It just has to be appealing to as many demographics as possible. But I'm not disagreeing that Box office results is all that really matters.


Anyway, this is a thread for guessing the tomatometer for GL, whether it works or not? This thread is a gauge for the critical reaction of GL rather than the audience reaction.

 

[dnno1]

A film doesn't have to be good in order have high box office results. It just has to be appealing to as many demographics as possible. But I'm not disagreeing that Box office results is all that really matters.


Anyway, this is a thread for guessing the tomatometer for GL, whether it works or not? This thread is a gauge for the critical reaction of GL rather than the audience reaction.

That's just it. Being good is a matter of opinion. What may be good for some is bad of others and vice versa. What is absolute though is that if a significant number of people went out to see a film more so than others, it more than likely was pretty good (and even then this is comparatively speaking, which is always the case).

Even though this is a thread for guessing the tomatometer a caveat should be made that RottenTomatoes is not the be all and end all for the success or failure of this film or any other.

 

[Micromind]

Good RT rating cannot ensure financial success at the Box Office, SR has better ratings than Iron Man 2, Spider-Man 3, Transformers 2, but it was not successful financially.

All the other movies made more money than SR, though I think that SR was a better movie than the others listed here. (IMO.)

Tomato meter average ratings.

Superman Returns (2006) - Average Rating: 7.1/10.

Transformers 2- Average Rating: 3.9/10.

Iron Man 2 (2010). Average Rating: 6.5/10.

Spider-Man 3 (2007). Average Rating: 6.2/10.

 

[dnno1]

Obviously, there hasn't been any reviews on this film yet, but right now on RottenTomatoes.com, the audience meter shows that 97% of RottenTomatoes or Flixter users want to see the movie.

 

[Micah12345]

If you disagree with rottentomatoes more often than not, then you probably just have bad taste in movies. I've found them to be an extremely reliable indicatior of whether a movie is worth seeing or not.

 

[Mrs. Sawyer]

^ Same. People have their own opinion about RT but its has been very reliable for me too with a few exception with some genres.

 

[Deaths Head II]

Even if you disagree with RT most of the time you can still find a kindred spirit in Armond White.

 

[Mrs. Sawyer]

Armond, oh Armond. He makes even that guy on youtube with the extreme hatred for Zack Snyder look like a more legit critic by comparison.

 

[dnno1]

I have already shown where they got it wrong on a number of films. They can't be reliable.

 

[Mrs. Sawyer]

I think they are when deciding which film to spend to my money on

 

[KangConquers]

I'm going with 65%.

 

[The Sage]

A couple of old thread revivals lately...

 

[S.A.A.D.]

Ugh, I'm going with around 30% to around 40%.

 

[EliteF50]

Somewhere in the eighties, I hope.

 

[The Riddler]

revised prediction: 69%.