He-man Sequel Series (Netflix)

Primal Slayer said:
I watched the first 3 episodes of the 2002 reboot for the first time since it aired and woof! It definitely wasnt Thundercats.



Fanboys being sexist because they think Teela is going to be the star...news at 11.
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Teela has been an important part of this storyline since the mini-comics. Secondly the 1980s cartoon was constantly preaching moral messages and was arguably pretty socially "woke" to begin with. The PSAs told kids to treat others with respect even if they look different from you and not to judge people by how they look.
 
People suggesting that Kevin Smith has some hidden "woke" agenda in reimagining the mythos severely need to reevaluate their lives. That's all I'm gonna say about that.
 
I've only found Kevin Smith as the director for the first episode.
 
Sithborg said:
I've only found Kevin Smith as the director for the first episode.
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Off to Google I go then!!

I'm hoping for Dos Santos and Montgomery types, or anyone from the Avatar/Korra or JLU team.
 
ArmsHeldOut said:
People suggesting that Kevin Smith has some hidden "woke" agenda in reimagining the mythos severely need to reevaluate their lives. That's all I'm gonna say about that.
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The original Filmation series was arguably very woke considering how they had to sanitize the show to sell it for syndication and make it as broad and acceptable as possible for parents. That's why there are moral messages every week, and you can't see He-Man actually slash someone with his f'n sword or physically punch or strike a villain.

People are so paranoid about the "woke" or "SJW" agendas or whatever they are ruining their media that they are checking out of reality. They don't even know what those words mean anymore. They just know what a bunch out outrage hate-baiters tell them.
 
TheVileOne said:
The original Filmation series was arguably very woke considering how they had to sanitize the show to sell it for syndication and make it as broad and acceptable as possible for parents. That's why there are moral messages every week, and you can't see He-Man actually slash someone with his f'n sword or physically punch or strike a villain.

People are so paranoid about the "woke" or "SJW" agendas or whatever they are ruining their media that they are checking out of reality. They don't even know what those words mean anymore. They just know what a bunch out outrage hate-baiters tell them.
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One has to wonder how much these folks even recall of the old series, assuming they even watched it in the first place. But yeah, this fresh take on Teela feels like a natural progression of the character to me in that she's always been depicted with a certain sense of agency. What's more, we're talking about a modern TV show here, where "the only one" trope as relates to He-Man simply isn't gonna fly anymore. A musclebound protagonist repeatedly saving the day—with virtually no help from anyone else—makes the other characters look weak or incompetent by comparison. And it really doesn't get any more outdated than that!

Getting back to Teela, I believe there's an element of sexualization at work as well. Now, I won't use invective here (because this sort of thing is human nature, as I see it), but people need to realize that fictional characters—and certainly other people—need not conform with their own aesthetic and sensual sensibilities to have value. If you want to, ahem, fantasize about a cartoon (lol), there are plenty of other ones you can do that with!
 
ArmsHeldOut said:
One has to wonder how much these folks even recall of the old series, assuming they even watched it in the first place. But yeah, this fresh take on Teela feels like a natural progression of the character to me in that she's always been depicted with a certain sense of agency. What's more, we're talking about a modern TV show here, where "the only one" trope as relates to He-Man simply isn't gonna fly anymore. A musclebound protagonist repeatedly saving the day—with virtually no help from anyone else—makes the other characters look weak or incompetent by comparison. And it really doesn't get any more outdated than that!

Getting back to Teela, I believe there's an element of sexualization at work as well. Now, I won't use invective here (because this sort of thing is human nature, as I see it), but people need to realize that fictional characters—and certainly other people—need not conform with their own aesthetic and sensual sensibilities to have value. If you want to, ahem, fantasize about a cartoon (lol), there are plenty of other ones you can do that with!
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I don't want to get in the weeds about this. But Teela has always been a major part of the story as the daughter of the Sorceress and the chosen one to become the new successor of Castle Grayskull.

But there have been plenty of cartoons and stories where He-Man had help from the other Masters and the other characters helped save the day.

As ar as sexualization though, I mean Teela was never really a sex symbol to me. Honestly, I find Teela's post-cataclysm design more attractive. I like buff, strong women. I don't know why that bothers people and that becomes a point of complaint either. I mean I find all types of women attractive, but strong women has never been like this "Ugh yuck buff strong woke women are ruining my cartoons!"
 
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I was thinking about something in connection to this, just some fan fiction idea...

So we see Adam here as being physically different from He-Man in his overall stature and frame.

And the old show established his mother was from Earth so...

What if sans the "Power!!!!" Adam was NEVER going to grow up to look like his fellow Eternians?

The environment of Eternia is a place where the strong survive. Of course Teela is buff. She like them all were born that way. Its a fantasy barbarian world. Adam though has his mom's genes and he's gonna lack what Teela was born with.

Just a thought.

Would be interesting to see this idea in a story some time. What might it have been like for Adam growing up and folks knowing he was a "half-Eternian" who was always gonna be the runt compared to everyone else.
 
TheVileOne said:
I don't want to get in the weeds about this. But Teela has always been a major part of the story as the daughter of the Sorceress and the chosen one to become the new successor of Castle Grayskull.

But there have been plenty of cartoons and stories where He-Man had help from the other Masters and the other characters helped save the day.
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I don't disagree. But as relates to older comics and cartoons, there was still more emphasis on the heroics of the male protagonist, generally speaking. That's just a fact. The writing has evolved quite a bit since then.

As ar as sexualization though, I mean Teela was never really a sex symbol to me. Honestly, I find Teela's post-cataclysm design more attractive. I like buff, strong women.

I don't know why that bothers people and that becomes a point of complaint either. I mean I find all types of women attractive, but strong women has never been like this "Ugh yuck buff strong woke women are ruining my cartoons!"
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You don't have to be a sex symbol to be sexualized. That's the whole point, really. Women are often (and unfairly) judged by superficial factors when they just want to be taken seriously by virtue of their skills, talents, etc.

It bothers them because they view things through a myopic lens.
 
I always thought that there's ALOT of similarity between the design and animation for both Teela and Evilynn from the Filmation show and Tarnaa from Heavy Metal.

I would definitely say Teela was a genre sex symbol to fans especially once they got older. The guys in charge of both the toys and the character designs on the show were taking a lot of inspiration from Frazetta anfmd the old Flash Gordon strips and lets be honest... Sex appeal is a big part of both.

Lets just say... Put Teela into a Deviantart search and a ton of NSFW stuff comes up.
 
ArmsHeldOut said:
I don't disagree. But as relates to older comics and cartoons, there was still more emphasis on the heroics of the male protagonist, generally speaking. That's just a fact. The writing has evolved quite a bit since then.
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Not sure I agree really, a lot of the 2002 series was about Teela's parentage her development and coming into her own as a hero.

Also, the toyline from the beginning was branded as MASTERS OF THE UNIVERSE. He-Man wasn't added into the title until later. Prince Adam didn't even transform into Prince Adam until much later.
 
KRYPTON INC. said:
I was thinking about something in connection to this, just some fan fiction idea...

So we see Adam here as being physically different from He-Man in his overall stature and frame.

And the old show established his mother was from Earth so...

What if sans the "Power!!!!" Adam was NEVER going to grow up to look like his fellow Eternians?

The environment of Eternia is a place where the strong survive. Of course Teela is buff. She like them all were born that way. Its a fantasy barbarian world. Adam though has his mom's genes and he's gonna lack what Teela was born with.

Just a thought.

Would be interesting to see this idea in a story some time. What might it have been like for Adam growing up and folks knowing he was a "half-Eternian" who was always gonna be the runt compared to everyone else.
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If this is consistent across the various species found on Eternia, primarily the humanoid ones, you might be onto something there. That said, in making Adam comparatively smaller than He-Man, I think Smith was mostly looking to add an extra layer of credibility to the disguise. I mean, in the original '80s show, the only thing separating the character from his alter ego (physically speaking, that is) is a deep tan. lol
 
TheVileOne said:
Not sure I agree really, a lot of the 2002 series was about Teela's parentage her development and coming into her own as a hero.
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So, you're saying that writing styles and techniques remained wholly consistent from the early '80s all the way through the present day irrespective of cultural and societal changes occurring therein? Okay. Gotcha.

Also, the toyline from the beginning was branded as MASTERS OF THE UNIVERSE. He-Man wasn't added into the title until later. Prince Adam didn't even transform into Prince Adam until much later.
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Extraneous detail.
 
ArmsHeldOut said:
If this is consistent across the various species found on Eternia, primarily the humanoid ones, you might be onto something there. That said, in making Adam comparatively smaller than He-Man, I think Smith was mostly looking to add an extra layer of credibility to the disguise. I mean, in the original '80s show, the only thing separating the character from his alter ego (physically speaking, that is) is a deep tan. lol
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Oh yeah for sure this is some retro-continuity fan bull**** I'm on.

Ha.

But when this discussion of body types came up I was like, "Of course Teela, CAPTAIN of the Palace Guards is buff. Her job is literally that of a being an elite warrior. But then I thought... Everyone looks like a body builder for the most part.

This even dovetails into why He-Man should be THE hero on Eternia...

Adam being smaller and more frail in comparison to everyone else could have been apparent from an early age. Randor was like "This will not do at all... He NEEDS to be able to fight and defend himself if he is going to rule after me." He tells Duncan that he needs to toughen Adam up through very rigorous training. A constant of the show was Adam getting put through his paces by Teela and Duncan and often... Adam was shown not to be all that good. But what if it wasn't a lack of skill or drive... He just couldn't EVER compete with Teela or even an older man like Duncan because he is a "Skinny Steve" on a planet of Captain Americas?

Then after years of this training he's suddenly bequeathed this superhuman body whose attributes allow him to apply the knowledge and techniques he's been learning since he was a young child being taught by Duncan and tested against Teela. Swordsmanship, battle tactics, hand to hand, riding... Now his body is equal to the training he received.

Keeping with the Steve Rogers theme, this is also the reason He-Man is such a compassionate and kind hero on such a dangerous fantasy world. Adam's years feeling weaker and less than his friends, foes and family growing up makes him sensitive to anyone weak or being bullied or oppressed. In other words... His "weaker" human side he inherited from his mother makes him the only person that should be entrusted with The Power Of Grayskull.

This would also explain his connection to Orko and Cringer if you think about it.
 
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This is a wild listen. Apparently the Lore bible for the original mythology of MOTU by Mattel once they decided to fully flesh out the backstory.

This is seeming also the first draft of what the Filmation show would adapt as its set up as well. You can see the original Orko name indicate this was early in development.

It is a long listen but fascinating if you are longtime fan. It puts me in the mindset of what the toys originally sparked in my imagination and which when done by Filmation felt neutered and too domesticated.

 
So, it looks like the Masters: Revelation prequel from Dark Horse is actually a four-issue limited series that's currently on a monthly schedule. This means that the upcoming web series will have already been out months before the comic finally wraps in October.

Having said that, I read the first installment and thought I'd do a quick breakdown for those interested. (If you'd rather just get the book yourself, don't worry. Everything's in spoiler tags.)

- King Randor is suddenly attacked by a mysterious creature.

- Teela and the royal guard attempt to fend it off to no avail.

- He-Man joins the fray; but before he can strike a blow with the sword of power, the creature swiftly retreats.

- Learning that Randor has been left in a comatose state, the heroes rush him to Castle Grayskull.

- Referring to the creature as the Orlax of Primeria, the Sorceress explains that its hold on Randor is both mystic and interdimensional.

- Hoping to commune with the creature so as to gain further understanding of—and ultimately reverse—Randor's condition, she sends He-Man on a mission across time and space.

- In the distant past, He-Man learns that King Hiss and his army of Snake Men once used the Orlax to kidnap King Grayskull's oldest son, D'are.

- To meet that threat, Grayskull appealed to the Council of Elders.

- Under the Council's advice, Grayskull reluctantly stuck a bargain w/ a sinister being of skeletal countenance (an ancestor of Skeletor perhaps?) so as to acquire a special ore by which to further temper his Preternian sword.

- With the weapon having been suitably rendered capable of channeling the Elders' immense energies—energies that run the gamut between darkness and light—it was thus imbued; and the "sword of power" was born.

- Shortly thereafter, the Snake Men returned and used the Orlax to capture Grayskull's other son, Ro.

- The augmented Grayskull managed to dispatch his enemies forthwith and at the same time free both of his sons from the Orlax's grip by severing one of its limbs.

- While tending to D'are, Grayskull was left vulnerable to another attack from the Orlax, which is immediately thwarted by the time-displaced He-Man.

- D'are was never cured of his exogenous affliction, but Ro went on to become the warrior known as He-Ro.

- Before taking his leave, He-Man advises Grayskull to give his (once soft and welcoming) castle a thorough makeover, one that will strike fear into the hearts of would-be adversaries.

- Back in the present, He-Man provides the Sorceress with the severed limb of the Orlax he encountered from his time-spanning journey.

- A mere limb no longer, the Orlax has regenerated to full size and is kept at bay by the Sorceress all the while she attempts to establish a telepathic rapport with it.

- In a surprise reveal, we learn that Skeletor and Evil-Lyn have been busy trying to interface with the newly reconstituted Orlax as well. The reason behind their motives? To discover what it first came to warn Eternia about all those many years ago!
 
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ArmsHeldOut said:
So, it looks like the Masters: Revelation prequel from Dark Horse is actually a four-issue limited series that's currently on a monthly schedule. This means that the upcoming web series will have already been out months before the comic finally wraps in October.

Having said that, I read the first installment and thought I'd do a quick breakdown for those interested. (If you'd rather just get the book yourself, don't worry. Everything's in spoiler tags.)

- King Randor is suddenly attacked by a mysterious creature.

- Teela and the royal guard attempt to fend it off to no avail.

- He-Man joins the fray; but before he can strike a blow with the sword of power, the creature swiftly retreats.

- Learning that Randor has been left in a comatose state, the heroes rush him to Castle Grayskull.

- Referring to the creature as the Orlax of Primeria, the Sorceress explains that its hold on Randor is both mystic and interdimensional.

- Hoping to commune with the creature so as to gain further understanding of—and ultimately reverse—Randor's condition, she sends He-Man on a mission across time and space.

- In the distant past, He-Man learns that King Hiss and his army of Snake Men once used the Orlax to kidnap King Grayskull's oldest son, D'are.

- To meet that threat, Grayskull appealed to the Council of Elders.

- Under the Council's advice, Grayskull reluctantly stuck a bargain w/ a sinister being of skeletal countenance (an ancestor of Skeletor's perhaps?) so as to acquire a special ore by which to further temper his Preternian sword.

- With the weapon having been suitably rendered capable of channeling the Elders' immense energies—energies that run the gamut between darkness and light—it was thus imbued; and the "sword of power" was born.

- Shortly thereafter, the Snake Men returned and used the Orlax to capture Grayskull's other son, Ro.

- The augmented Grayskull managed to dispatch his enemies forthwith and at the same time free both of his sons from the Orlax's grip by severing one of its limbs.

- While tending to D'are, Grayskull was left vulnerable to another attack from the Orlax, which is immediately thwarted by the time-displaced He-Man.

- D'are was never cured of his exogenous affliction, but Ro went on to become the warrior known as He-Ro.

- Before taking his leave, He-Man advises Grayskull to give his (once soft and welcoming) castle a thorough makeover, one that will strike fear into the hearts of would-be adversaries.

- Back in the present, He-Man provides the Sorceress with the severed limb of the Orlax he encountered from his time-spanning journey.

- A mere limb no longer, the Orlax has regenerated to full size and is kept at bay by the Sorceress all the while she attempts to establish a telepathic rapport with it.

- In a surprise reveal, we learn that Skeletor and Evil-Lyn have been busy trying to interface with the newly reconstituted Orlax as well. The reason behind their motives? To discover what it first came to warn Eternia about all those many years ago!
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