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Hollywood Elsewhere tidbit on The Last Stand

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From Jeffrey Wells from hollywoodelsewhere.com

"Apparently that analogy I was handed about the end of Brett Ratner's X-Men 3: The Last Stand (20th Century Fox, 5.26) being a bit like the finale of The Wild Bunch was not on the mark. Here's what Maxim critic Pete Hammond says, having recently seen it at on the Fox lot: "While there's a considerable amount of violence in the final battle scene plus a couple of others, it's not of the Sam Peckinpah variety but more in line with what we've all come to expect from these films. What astounded me is apparently Fox is determined to end the series with this one. It's flatly stated in the first line of the press notes: '....the climax of the X-Men motion picture trilogy.' Apparently there will be spinoffs including a Magneto film (Ian McKellen, great here again and by the far the best thing in The DaVinci Code) movie that is listed as 'announced' on IMDB as is Wolverine for Jackman, but who knows? There are definitely some surprising twists in Brett Ratner's film but perhaps the best of all is saved for absolute last in an end sequence after the final (endless) credits roll. Fox publicists told the handful of people at the screening to stay all the way through and it was worth it. (I'm usually the last person in the theatre when the lights come up.) I think Ratner put this last bit in there for the true fans. He's done an excellent job taking over for Bryan Singer, keeping the humanity and tone of the first two and adding his own thing. The action scenes are dynamite. For me this was the best of the three films. It will be interesting to see the reaction when it screens on Monday in Cannes and at the all-media screening [in Los Angeles]."

Interesting, I would say....
 
J.Howlett said:
From Jeffrey Wells from hollywoodelsewhere.com

He's done an excellent job taking over for Bryan Singer, keeping the humanity and tone of the first two and adding his own thing. The action scenes are dynamite. For me this was the best of the three films. It will be interesting to see the reaction when it screens on Monday in Cannes and at the all-media screening [in Los Angeles].

This movie seems really good! I think it might be a critical favourite, more then X2, but a slight fan disappointment. But, they added in that cheap scene at the end for us right? haha joking :up:
 
crappymovie said:
This movie seems really good! I think it might be a critical favourite, more then X2, but a slight fan disappointment. But, they added in that cheap scene at the end for us right? haha joking :up:


i'm going to be honest with you...the only fans who are going to be dissapointed with this moive are those who have been anti-Ratner since day one, and the only reason they are going to be dissapointed is at what a good movie this has been

we've seen countless reviews by now, and we haven't seen a terrible review that completely bashes it yet, the minimal bad reviews we've seen have said that the movie is "ok" and that is why it is considered a bad review...and furthur more, more then half of the bad reviews have been fans who got into advanced screenings

this is one of the most glowing reviews to date, and each review keeps getting better, and better


X4 will happen too, i don't think Donner is done with it, i don't think Ratner's done with it, the fans, Jackmen, Stewart, Mckellen, i think when this movie continues to get rave reviews and makes money there will be another flick
 
L0ngsh0t said:
i'm going to be honest with you...the only fans who are going to be dissapointed with this moive are those who have been anti-Ratner since day one, and the only reason they are going to be dissapointed is at what a good movie this has been

we've seen countless reviews by now, and we haven't seen a terrible review that completely bashes it yet, the minimal bad reviews we've seen have said that the movie is "ok" and that is why it is considered a bad review...and furthur more, more then half of the bad reviews have been fans who got into advanced screenings

haha wow, one post and im a ratner hater. I don't think I'll be disappointed by the movie because of the director, many critics have already said that the movie is a good, fast-paced action movie. I would just be disappointed by some plot devices that have been complained about since the AICN script review: mainly Cyclops dying. Couldn't they have just let him leave the X-Men? Gone to Alaska? Especially after the complaints after the script reviews...which the writers acknowledged...

SPOLERS

So I would only be disappointed if Cyclops dies (which he does), and Logan is the one to save Jean because he's her true love haha (which he does.) Just as a fan, i would be disappointed because it seems like a lot of fan's reactions are being ignored...only to keep Xavier alive, and say that it's what the fans REALLY wanted. That's all
 
how do you know he's dead for sure though? just as with xavier, they don't have a body(from what i have herd he is just gone) so how couldn't jean have just blasted him back a 1,000 feet or so leaving him for dead when...mr. sinister finds his lifeless body and revitalizes it for X4, point is, anything can happen, my guess is ratner is doing all he can to try and make this not the last xmen movie

from day one when he first talked about the movie, he (ratner) should be the area of least amount of worry, cause he wanted to make it in the same way singer made it, just with a little more comic booky, there is nothing wrong with that, he has gone into this movie doing the best he can to not piss anyone off puttng very little of his own into the movie (the changes he has made seem to be for the better i.e. the end scene keeping xavier alive)

i would have been more worried about mr and mrs smith boy writting the movie myself, but i don't let that kind of stuff worry me till after i see it because they have a good producer, and a cast of well respected actors, that wouldn't stand for a bad movie anyways (stewart and mckellen would just do the theater they love so much better)

and you know what the fans really want? a good movie, if cyclops dies but it stll kicks ass, so be it, he got screwed in the first two i really didn't think they would change course for the third movie anyways...storm still isn't african, it doesn't matter anymore, Gambit possibley the second most popular mutant hasn't been in a movie yet, no sentinals, it's annoying at first but once you actually watch the movie it won't matter so you shouldn't let it bother you now
 
L0ngsh0t said:
how do you know he's dead for sure though? just as with xavier, they don't have a body(from what i have herd he is just gone) so how couldn't jean have just blasted him back a 1,000 feet or so leaving him for dead when...mr. sinister finds his lifeless body and revitalizes it for X4, point is, anything can happen, my guess is ratner is doing all he can to try and make this not the last xmen movie

from day one when he first talked about the movie, he (ratner) should be the area of least amount of worry, cause he wanted to make it in the same way singer made it, just with a little more comic booky, there is nothing wrong with that, he has gone into this movie doing the best he can to not piss anyone off puttng very little of his own into the movie (the changes he has made seem to be for the better i.e. the end scene keeping xavier alive)

i would have been more worried about mr and mrs smith boy writting the movie myself, but i don't let that kind of stuff worry me till after i see it because they have a good producer, and a cast of well respected actors, that wouldn't stand for a bad movie anyways (stewart and mckellen would just do the theater they love so much better)

and you know what the fans really want? a good movie, if cyclops dies but it stll kicks ass, so be it, he got screwed in the first two i really didn't think they would change course for the third movie anyways...storm still isn't african, it doesn't matter anymore, Gambit possibley the second most popular mutant hasn't been in a movie yet, no sentinals, it's annoying at first but once you actually watch the movie it won't matter so you shouldn't let it bother you now

:up:

I like that post.

Lady Deathstrike is one of my favorite characters, and granted that comes from her backstory in the cartoons, and not as much in the comics, I still really like the character.

She was utterly ruined in X2... and yea, it was totally annoying at first, but now, that movie is just so good that it doesn't really matter... and it's cool that I at least got to see Lady Deathstrike in the flesh.

And Gambit is my all time favorite character in anything ever, and he hasn't been in the movies at all.

Point being: Cyclops dying really ****ing sucks. Wolverine being the one to kill Jean really ****ing sucks. But I'm sure the rest of the movie will be brilliant. Magneto appears to be just as amazing as ever. Beast looks awesome. Angel looks like he'll have a quality over quantity role. Iceman will ice-up. And then there's the Juggernaut, *****.

Cyclops dying will suck, but overall, the movie will be awesome, and over time, I'll probably learn to accept it.
 

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