How Could Spidey Be Winning??

[1987olds442]

PLEASE explain in what way if you are talking about thor, ss hulk ,thanos

He highlighted Daredevil, Batman , & Captain America in your original post... In which he would be correct Spiderman is vastly physically superior to those guys. Spiderman is in the 15 ton weight class.

 

[DACMAN]

You guys are on crack. Yes I'm a Hulk fan as well as Marvel in general. I own a ton, around 400 Hulk comics. Really think about this in realistic terms. You have Hulk - Super Strong (lift a freaking mtn) healing factor, and so on. Then you have Spiderman - able to lift 800lbs

Though I agree, Spider-Man is able to lift 15 tons. How do you think he was able to life a tram in Spider-Man 1, or stop an entire train in the second?

http://www.marvel.com/universe/Spider-Man_(Peter_Parker)

 

[GammaMike]

As I've read in comics, when Spidey is fighting a heavyweight like Hulk or Juggernaught, he is not really fighting to win, but merely to detain or stall until an oppritunity arises( reinforcments or calming Banner down etc.)

 

[Silicon Surfer]

While the Hulk is admittedly much stronger than the Spidey he has no possibility of defeating Spidey. The Hulk has only normal human reflexes meaning that everything he does is in extreme slow motion to someone with super speed. Even the thunderclap would take so long that Spidey would see it coming and simply move out of range. Sound attacks diminish in intensity very quickly as distance increases. Slapping the ears is an attack that is taught in hand to hand combat classes and even to special forces because it creates pain so extreme that it causes instant unconsciousness. Spidey could also kick the Hulk in the nuts or hit him in the throat. Both of these attacks would instantly eliminate all anger and cause Hulk to lose his extra strength. Spidey could also shoot web glue down Hulks throat to prevent him from breathing which even the Hulk has to do. In fact the Hulk due to his size needs air more than a normal human. While ordinary punching may be a useless tactic for Spidey to use against the Hulk, the Hulk does have the same weak points that we do. Spidey is perfectly capable of using these points to take down a stronger opponent. The Hulk is shown many times defeating opponents that rationally he should not even be able to hit even once. This is entirely due to the Hulks popularity.

 

[GammaMike]

While the Hulk is admittedly much stronger than the Spidey he has no possibility of defeating Spidey. The Hulk has only normal human reflexes meaning that everything he does is in extreme slow motion to someone with super speed. Even the thunderclap would take so long that Spidey would see it coming and simply move out of range. Sound attacks diminish in intensity very quickly as distance increases. Slapping the ears is an attack that is taught in hand to hand combat classes and even to special forces because it creates pain so extreme that it causes instant unconsciousness. Spidey could also kick the Hulk in the nuts or hit him in the throat. Both of these attacks would instantly eliminate all anger and cause Hulk to lose his extra strength. Spidey could also shoot web glue down Hulks throat to prevent him from breathing which even the Hulk has to do. In fact the Hulk due to his size needs air more than a normal human. While ordinary punching may be a useless tactic for Spidey to use against the Hulk, the Hulk does have the same weak points that we do. Spidey is perfectly capable of using these points to take down a stronger opponent. The Hulk is shown many times defeating opponents that rationally he should not even be able to hit even once. This is entirely due to the Hulks popularity.

Not 100% true. I've been hit in the nutts before and had my anger increase..............to where I clobber the offender then give in the intense agony.

 

[Silicon Surfer]

Except that the Hulk can't hit Spidey and can't keep him from doing it again and again and again ....

 

[Kirk Langstrom]

Vengeance, one of Ghost Riders enemies/allies, kicked Hulk in the nuts, and it did him no good whatsoever....

And please quote me an issue where it is established that Hulk "needs air more than a normal human"...

I love Spider-Man, but with the exception of when he was Captain Universe, and that LAUGHABLE Unlimited issue, the Hulk has pretty much owned him every time they've fought.

 

[DIRTY ELK]

Except that the Hulk can't hit Spidey and can't keep him from doing it again and again and again ....

HULK CAN HIT SM ha has done it before and he will do it again, also hulk would not even have to touch him his thunderclap would beat him ,or hulk smashing the ground causing earthquake , also spiderman can hit hulk as many times he wants and all he will do is break his hands check out peter parker sm #14 and hulk dose not have weak spots because he is not normal . and sm has even said so.

 

[DIRTY ELK]

He highlighted Daredevil, Batman , & Captain America in your original post... In which he would be correct Spiderman is vastly physically superior to those guys. Spiderman is in the 15 ton weight class.

I agree i did not see the highlighted dd, bm, ca

 

[James"007"Bond]

PLEASE explain in what way if you are talking about thor, ss hulk ,thanos

*sighs*

Cant people read anymore?

 

[Silicon Surfer]

Vengeance, one of Ghost Riders enemies/allies, kicked Hulk in the nuts, and it did him no good whatsoever....

And please quote me an issue where it is established that Hulk "needs air more than a normal human"...

I love Spider-Man, but with the exception of when he was Captain Universe, and that LAUGHABLE Unlimited issue, the Hulk has pretty much owned him every time they've fought.

I don't recall the issue but he was in space along with others and when the air began to go he began to pass out before the normal humans. Marvel attributed it in the story to Hulks greater mass and the fact that the metabolic processes that produce his great strength were much more efficient. In order for these much more efficient processes to produce that strength they needed more oxygen. All of the Hulks physical processes are the same as that of normal humans only much more so. This new mutation that can even alter his lungs though is very much over the top and has the potential to be misused to enable him to withstand anything without a problem. I would suspect that if Hulk actually has withstood a shot to the nuts then it would have to be this process that is responsible. As for the Hulk hitting him, since he is moving at least 1/15 normal speed relative to Spideys perceptions, Spidey would see him as moving so slowly that it would be necessary for him to deliberately stand still and allow a punch to land. If a punch takes 15 times longer than normal to execute how would you possibly get hit by it.

 

[1987olds442]

Actually the Hulk can survive in the vacuum of space now...And his reflexes are above normal Humans as well.

 

[DACMAN]

While the Hulk is admittedly much stronger than the Spidey he has no possibility of defeating Spidey. The Hulk has only normal human reflexes meaning that everything he does is in extreme slow motion to someone with super speed. Even the thunderclap would take so long that Spidey would see it coming and simply move out of range. Sound attacks diminish in intensity very quickly as distance increases. Slapping the ears is an attack that is taught in hand to hand combat classes and even to special forces because it creates pain so extreme that it causes instant unconsciousness. Spidey could also kick the Hulk in the nuts or hit him in the throat. Both of these attacks would instantly eliminate all anger and cause Hulk to lose his extra strength. Spidey could also shoot web glue down Hulks throat to prevent him from breathing which even the Hulk has to do. In fact the Hulk due to his size needs air more than a normal human. While ordinary punching may be a useless tactic for Spidey to use against the Hulk, the Hulk does have the same weak points that we do. Spidey is perfectly capable of using these points to take down a stronger opponent. The Hulk is shown many times defeating opponents that rationally he should not even be able to hit even once. This is entirely due to the Hulks popularity.

First off, getting hit in the balls would piss anyone off. Second, the HULK can hold his breath for over half an hour. And third even if he did breath in some he, well, just click the link and read the bottom of the page

http://www.incrediblehulk.com/powersabilities.html

 

[DACMAN]

HULK CAN HIT SM ha has done it before and he will do it again, also hulk would not even have to touch him his thunderclap would beat him ,or hulk smashing the ground causing earthquake , also spiderman can hit hulk as many times he wants and all he will do is break his hands check out peter parker sm #14 and hulk dose not have weak spots because he is not normal . and sm has even said so.

What issue was it that Spidey fought the smart HULK? Amazing issue 400 something. I'd say it was a clear win for the HULK. He has won battle after battle with Spider-Man in the comics. The only one I can think of that he "won" was a fight he told the HULK a knock-knock jock and made him turn back into Banner.

 

[Silicon Surfer]

First off, getting hit in the balls would piss anyone off. Second, the HULK can hold his breath for over half an hour. And third even if he did breath in some he, well, just click the link and read the bottom of the page

http://www.incrediblehulk.com/powersabilities.html

Anybody who gets mad after a groin shot didn't get much of one. I have seen a guy get hit and he was out cold before he even started to fall. He was out for more than 2 hours and needed surgery.

 

[1987olds442]

Well some people are not affected the same way...Some go down like a sack of potatoes and some will just stand there and get really pissed off. I know once accidentally hit this guy I knew in the joules with a pool ball and he dropped like a rock. Damn we laughed our asses off after we checked to see if he was okay. Another friend of mine use to be a bouncer he is a pretty big guy and that is coming from someone that is 6'2" 280lbs and I've seen him take a shot to the groin an then beat the hell out of the guy that did it. But just because someone is a big strong guy doesn’t naturally mean they can take a hit another friend of mine can bench around 500lbs but will puke his guts out if he gets hit in the groin, so not all people react the same way. But the majority will indeed fall if hit there…

 

[Silicon Surfer]

The quality of the hit matters a lot too. In the incident I refered to the guy was lifted about 3 or 4 inches off of the ground. They had to do surgery on the guy to put everything back where it belonged.

 

[1987olds442]

And in the incident where my friend got hit and thusly beat the other guys senseless was a full contact hit as well.

 

[SLYspyder]

a hit from a guy who can bench 15 tons is no walk in the park. and with spider-man's speed, agility, and spider-sense, it's possible for him to beat any foe.

so if hulk can't hit spider-man, and in a couple of minutes, spider-man's landed about 100 punches, hulk's gonna go down.

if a little kid keeps on hitting you in your head, you'll go down eventually.

so, the fight can go either way.

 

[DACMAN]

While the Hulk is admittedly much stronger than the Spidey he has no possibility of defeating Spidey. The Hulk has only normal human reflexes

I wish my reflexes were "human" enough to catch a missle.

 

[DACMAN]

Anybody who gets mad after a groin shot didn't get much of one. I have seen a guy get hit and he was out cold before he even started to fall. He was out for more than 2 hours and needed surgery.

Wuss.


But even if the HULK was hit there, I think it's safe to assume the rest of his body is as strong as anything else. I don't know why he'd be able to take a tank shell in the chest, yet could be hit in the balls by a guy who lifts 15 tons. Hit there by the Abomination sure. And even if it did hurt, for whatever reason, he has a healing factor that is the best in the Marvel U.

 

[DACMAN]

so if hulk can't hit spider-man, and in a couple of minutes, spider-man's landed about 100 punches, hulk's gonna go down.

Have you ever even read a comic? That exact thing played out in Peter Parker Spider-Man issue 14.

The fight ends with Spider-Man holding his bloody and broken hands and the HULK looking down at him unphased. The only reason he doesn't pound him then and there is because the entire fight Spidey has been talking to himself about his "dead" wife and the HULK feels bad for him. He says something like "BUG MAN'S WIFE IS DEAD. HULK'S WIFE DEAD TOO. HULK SORRY." Right after that Spider-Man almost passes out just from over exerting himself while fighting the HULK, when the HULK shows NO signs of being tired. Sorry you loose.

 

[Gamma Burst]

spidey is totally outclassed here.Hulk is Earth's mightiest creature and stronger than anyone.He's damn fast too.I wo'nt even mention his durability and healing factor...Hulk "smash" bugman.

 

[Still Down]

While the Hulk is admittedly much stronger than the Spidey he has no possibility of defeating Spidey. The Hulk has only normal human reflexes meaning that everything he does is in extreme slow motion to someone with super speed. Even the thunderclap would take so long that Spidey would see it coming and simply move out of range. Sound attacks diminish in intensity very quickly as distance increases. Slapping the ears is an attack that is taught in hand to hand combat classes and even to special forces because it creates pain so extreme that it causes instant unconsciousness. Spidey could also kick the Hulk in the nuts or hit him in the throat. Both of these attacks would instantly eliminate all anger and cause Hulk to lose his extra strength. Spidey could also shoot web glue down Hulks throat to prevent him from breathing which even the Hulk has to do. In fact the Hulk due to his size needs air more than a normal human. While ordinary punching may be a useless tactic for Spidey to use against the Hulk, the Hulk does have the same weak points that we do. Spidey is perfectly capable of using these points to take down a stronger opponent. The Hulk is shown many times defeating opponents that rationally he should not even be able to hit even once. This is entirely due to the Hulks popularity.

You are just plain ******ed and need to have your license to speak revoked

 

[Mad Bull]

I wish my reflexes were "human" enough to catch a missle.

Lol, or tag Quicksilver.