The Dark Knight Rises How could the Lazarus pits work in Nolan's final batfilm?

[Mike_D202]

Plus Alfred's comment earlier in the film when he talks about the prison pit, saying "when a man goes in, something else comes back out."

 

[The Guard]

Which is odd, since supposedly no one except Talia had ever gotten out of the Pit. Maybe he meant it in a general allegorical sense...can't remember the exact dialogue there.

 

[XtremelyBaneful]

Plus Alfred's comment earlier in the film when he talks about the prison pit, saying "when a man goes in, something else comes back out."

He might have meant that whoever comes out won't be the same as they were before. After all, once Talia left she grew up to be a smoking hot, evil, devious, deceptive, warrior, daughter of a British Arabian terrorist ninja assassin.

 

[dark_b]

the pit was one of the best parts

months ago i didnt belive that a broken back would work inside the prison would work. but it did. fantastic

 

[Radioactive1980]

OK this is bugging me...

1) Is the Prison pit that Bruce was placed in, Nolan's version of a Lazarus pit?
2) In other words did it yield any supernatural restorative powers such as aiding in the healing of Bruce's back?
3) Did it fix the cartilage in his knees?
4) And did it return to him some of his youthful vigour, possibly decreasing his physical age?
5) If it did this stuff, how come them other chumps couldn't break out?

Also, I never saw him eating...

6) Who was feeding the prisoners?
7) And finally, why did Bane place him in prison, one that possibly heals him, instead of killing him? (does it that just come down to the old Dr Evil not killing Powers and instead giving him a chance to escape and beat him movie cliche?)

 

[GENERAL RAAM582]

I definitely think the prison pit is Nolan's version of the Lazarus Pit. Bruce went into the pit with a broken back, a bad knee, and he was very weak. He was also mentally crushed, and probably depressed. He came out of the pit with a healed back, virtually no knee problem, as strong as he was in the two previous films, and he was mentally stronger too. So while it's not the classic supernatural healing pit, it's a more realistic pit. Even though it was never called the Lazarus Pit, I like to think it is. It definitely would fit a Nolanverse Lazarus Pit.

 

[Micromind]

Plus Alfred's comment earlier in the film when he talks about the prison pit, saying "when a man goes in, something else comes back out."

Bane was afraid of the Bats when he faced him the second time, not because batman was back but because he was able to climb out of the pit, which served to establish that he was stronger physically and mentally.

 

[Radioactive1980]

But guys, why the hell would Bane place him in a pit that heals/possibly enhances him?

IT MAKES NO SENSE

Let alone not kill him when he had the chance. OK, so he wanted him to sit and watch Gotham burn, then he would 'have permission to die'. But how exactly was that gonna work out? After the worlds greatest vigilante had spent two months eating, sleeping and training in a regenerative pit...

I love the film, but Bane's logic behind sticking him in the pit was non existent.

And as much as some of you like the idea of the prison pit being the Lazarus pit, the fact that it has zero explanation behind how it works is rather disappointing.

 

[Scooter]

He put him in there to torment him, as he was tormented during his time there. Bane obviously didn't think he would ever make it out.

Did you actually watch the movie?

 

[Radioactive1980]

^So Bane also didn't know that it enhances a person physically despite it having enhanced him?

 

[Scooter]

^So Bane also didn't know that it enhances a person physically despite it having enhanced him?

It crippled him, and then he had to be rescued by Ra's.

 

[Micromind]

The Pit made Bane crippled and dependent of painkillers, broke the will power of most of the prisoners and it transformed the innocent Talia (who escaped the Pit) into a woman who was vengeful and extremist in nature, not exactly an improvement of mind, soul and body.


But it had a reverse effect on Bruce a he emerged stronger, both mentally and physically, something that Bane did not expect.

 

[babbage]

But guys, why the hell would Bane place him in a pit that heals/possibly enhances him?

IT MAKES NO SENSE

Let alone not kill him when he had the chance. OK, so he wanted him to sit and watch Gotham burn, then he would 'have permission to die'. But how exactly was that gonna work out? After the worlds greatest vigilante had spent two months eating, sleeping and training in a regenerative pit...

I love the film, but Bane's logic behind sticking him in the pit was non existent.

And as much as some of you like the idea of the prison pit being the Lazarus pit, the fact that it has zero explanation behind how it works is rather disappointing.

It is the Lazarus Pit in allegory/homage only. Not literally.

 

[Tacit Ronin]

The only thing missing was Bruce going mad after his "healing" or did he?