How do YOU rate the Killzone trailers?

[xwolverine2]

all of gears of war was basically the same...

well until i see otherwise ill assume that dirty bathroom look is all they have to show

 

[KALEL114]

You know what happens when you assume right?

 

[DorkyFresh]

gears of war is willy wonka compared to the silent hill-ness of killzone2

the Silent Hill series has always had great graphics despite the flat palette. not every game has to have vibrant colors, especially when the mood/feel of the game is taken into consideration. Gears of War had some scary @$$ monsters and hardcore character designs but the footage we've seen from KZ2 feels and looks grittier and scarier just from the mood and atmosphere alone.

going into Gears of War i knew i was going to kick a bunch of monster @$$. just watching that trailer from Killzone feels like i'm going to my death...similar to the way i feel with every Silent Hill game i play.

 

[cookiva]

wow guys, lets compare games that will come out 2 years apart. How did GTA 3 compare to 2? Guys, this is an idiotic argument.

Oh so what. PS fanboys and 360 fanboys arguing. How about both consoles produce better and better games, so one doesnt fall, then we get a monopoly of consoles. If both consoles do well, we have competitcion, and both will try harder to make better games.

STOP WHINING!!!!

 

[XtromaniaK]

wow guys, lets compare games that will come out 2 years apart. How did GTA 3 compare to 2? Guys, this is an idiotic argument.

Oh so what. PS fanboys and 360 fanboys arguing. How about both consoles produce better and better games, so one doesnt fall, then we get a monopoly of consoles. If both consoles do well, we have competitcion, and both will try harder to make better games.

STOP WHINING!!!!

Inconceivable!

 

[KALEL114]

Inconceivable!

"Why do you keep saying that word? I don't think it means what you think does."

 

[TheBat812]

The colors in Gears actually pop out to me. I see them much more frequently than I see any color in Killzone. Killzone 2, to quote another poster, might as well have been in black and white. The lack of color only added to the fact that the world looked bland, bland, bland.

Gears of War looks better to me. That's all I can say. You can throw out every meaningless statistic to try to show me why Killzone 2 looks better. It doesn't to me. The world just lacks.. vibrance. And it pulls me out of it.

The only impressive thing about Gears is the texturing. That's about it. There's no depth to the characters, they feel like polygons with textures thrown on.

K2:

Gears:

Killzone destroys Gears.

 

[XtromaniaK]

"Why do you keep saying that word? I don't think it means what you think does."

Muahaha! The Princess Bride. t:

"No one would ever surrender to the Dread Pirate Westley."

/ignores dingbat above him

 

[DorkyFresh]

here's a good comparison (hope these aren't broken links)...

Gears of War

Killzone 2

i'm not saying Gears of War's graphics suck by any means but in my eyes, GoW makes Killzone 2 look like rendered cg...

 

[xwolverine2]

i dont care about graphics to that extent...


try sniping in Killzone2....
i bet its just not fun at all... too dark and too crunched up of a place.

 

[TheBat812]

here's a good comparison (hope these aren't broken links)...

Gears of War

Killzone 2

i'm not saying Gears of War's graphics suck by any means but in my eyes, GoW makes Killzone 2 look like rendered cg...

the Gears pic doesn't work for me, but I agree. There's a certain tangibility to Killzone that you don't ahve in Gears.

 

[Upset Spideyfan]

Mixed. I liked some of what I saw and disliked other parts of it. Some of its clunky, some of its impressive. Now normally there'd be nothing wrong with that but after that video they released a while back, well...

Anyway, so far based on what I've seen (simply in terms of visual presentation):

Crysis > Mass Effect > Killzone > Gears of War.

 

[Zenien]

wow guys, lets compare games that will come out 2 years apart. How did GTA 3 compare to 2? Guys, this is an idiotic argument.

Oh so what. PS fanboys and 360 fanboys arguing. How about both consoles produce better and better games, so one doesnt fall, then we get a monopoly of consoles. If both consoles do well, we have competitcion, and both will try harder to make better games.

STOP WHINING!!!!

Though Gears is an end year, Year 1 360 game.
Killzone will be an early Year 2 PS3 game.

For a more 1 to 1 comparison, Both Gears and Uncharted are coming out at the tail end of year one of their respective consoles, and Uncharted is pushing a ton more things at once while having on par textures to Gears of War. It's just doing a ton more then Gears of War, a ton.

Helghan is not a nice planet or anything, very harsh conditions, but that storm is definitely being caused by the technology of the Helghast, I bet well see more varied environments then just that Helghan city.

 

[Zenien]

Does anyone know if there is a place where we can download the jeuxfrance video in higher res?

I can't get over how good this games looks, I'm still going back to rewatch the trailer now and then just to remind myself how awesome it is and the game looks 500 times better in motion then in screens but is still is just so awesome in stills.

http://www.jeuxvideo.tv/killzone-2-video-40131.html

 

[Spidey17]

Is that video different than the gametrailers one?

 

[Devil May Cry]

yes it is, spidey.



thanks, zenien.


looks great.

 

[Spidey17]

**** **** ***** ASSSHOLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If I can't get it to work than I will go on a killing spree, GTA style. I hope none of you live in Texas.

 

[GFreeman]

It looked a lot better than I thought it would. A lot of people must have had much lower expectations though, to be this impressed by it.

 

[GoldenAgeHero]

yo zenien anywhere i can download that video you posted a few postsabove?

 

[Phaser]

I'm staggered at the amount of people who are selling Gears of War short in this thread. It is still one of the best looking games out there (if you don't think so, get yourself a pair of glasses). And no amount of crappy screenshots will do justice to how downright beautiful the game looks in motion. You maintain Killzone 2 looks better? OK, but does that not take away from Gears' merits. Also, artistically it is far more interesting than Killzone 2 anyway.

Oh and you people might want to take a look at IGN's Overall Best of E3 awards right here. Call of Duty 4 takes the "Best Graphics Technology" award with runner-ups being Crysis and Fallout 3. Killzone 2 wasn't even nominated.

 

[Devil May Cry]

I'm staggered at the amount of people who are selling Gears of War short in this thread. It is still one of the best looking games out there (if you don't think so, get yourself a pair of glasses). And no amount of crappy screenshots will do justice to how downright beautiful the game looks in motion. You maintain Killzone 2 looks better? OK, but does that not take away from Gears' merits. Also, artistically it is far more interesting than Killzone 2 anyway.

Oh and you people might want to take a look at IGN's Overall Best of E3 awards right here. Call of Duty 4 takes the "Best Graphics Technology" award with runner-ups being Crysis and Fallout 3. Killzone 2 wasn't even nominated.

# Best Graphics Technology:
Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare (X360)

Developer: Infinity Ward
Publisher: Activision
Release Date: November 2007

This isn't the easiest category to judge. Call of Duty 4 won, but we can't proceed without tipping our metaphorical hat to Crysis. Crytek's CryEngine 2 is clearly capable of incredible things. The foliage, the lighting, the character models, the weapon effects -- it blows away everything else out there, but unfortunately no demo we've seen seems to run smoothly. It's getting pretty close to release for that game, and we don't want to have to buy a HAL 9000 to get that thing to run chop-free.

And that bring us to our winner, Call of Duty 4. Infinity Ward's game not only looks spectacular but runs at a smooth clip. It boasts startlingly realistic character model animations and some amazing effects like the transition into night vision, along with the staggering amount of gunfire and explosions onscreen at once. From what we've seen, Call of Duty 4, through its visuals, is augmenting its immersive draw and enhancing its energetic gameplay through graphics that make it seem as though you're actually firing a gun, as though you're actually embroiled in a war.


Runner(s)-Up:
# Crysis (PC - Electronic Arts)
# Fallout 3 (X360 - Bethesda Softworks)

Other Nominees:
# Killzone 2 (PS3 - Sony Computer Entertainment)
# Unreal Tournament 3 (PS3 - Midway)

I agree though, Gears still looks on point.

 

[Phaser]

# Best Graphics Technology:
Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare (X360)

Developer: Infinity Ward
Publisher: Activision
Release Date: November 2007

This isn't the easiest category to judge. Call of Duty 4 won, but we can't proceed without tipping our metaphorical hat to Crysis. Crytek's CryEngine 2 is clearly capable of incredible things. The foliage, the lighting, the character models, the weapon effects -- it blows away everything else out there, but unfortunately no demo we've seen seems to run smoothly. It's getting pretty close to release for that game, and we don't want to have to buy a HAL 9000 to get that thing to run chop-free.

And that bring us to our winner, Call of Duty 4. Infinity Ward's game not only looks spectacular but runs at a smooth clip. It boasts startlingly realistic character model animations and some amazing effects like the transition into night vision, along with the staggering amount of gunfire and explosions onscreen at once. From what we've seen, Call of Duty 4, through its visuals, is augmenting its immersive draw and enhancing its energetic gameplay through graphics that make it seem as though you're actually firing a gun, as though you're actually embroiled in a war.


Runner(s)-Up:
# Crysis (PC - Electronic Arts)
# Fallout 3 (X360 - Bethesda Softworks)

Other Nominees:
# Killzone 2 (PS3 - Sony Computer Entertainment)
# Unreal Tournament 3 (PS3 - Midway)

I agree though, Gears still looks on point.

Heh heh...whoops!

But judging by the amount of fanfare the game's visuals received, particularly on this board, it should have clearly been placed in the runner up category at least, don't you think? Between IGN's and Gametrailer's 'Best Graphics' awards both going to Call of Duty 4, this begs the question that visually speaking if Killzone 2 is really all that impressive as it's been hyped to be.

 

[Devil May Cry]

Yeah, like I said, it def. cannot contend with Crysis. Crysis is the best looking game I've ever seen. Killzone 2 has bad textures in some places right now...especially on the floor. Joystiq said they were God awful. It needs to be fixed. If they can fix that and make the AI nice, it will be awesome. As far as Fallout, I'm shocked to see it as a runner up. It looks tight but better than some of these others? Naw BTW WHERE IS MASS EFFECT?!?!?!

But yeah, if they can fix those textures, I think it could be the best looking PS3 game.


Oh and one more thing. I'm not sure if Gears PC was playable, but it looked even better than 360, which is like woah.

 

[Zenien]

If you stop and look at CoD4, as in actually look at it in motion or otherwise, it's the amazing that makes it look so good as well as having a great engine, but it's the art first and foremost. It does its best when using oversaturate light, but it's the colors that make it look good, not the polygons or technical prowess.

Killzone 2 has absurd technical prowess and detail orders of magnitude greater. The way the crowds filter, actually watch the clouds as they're making their decent and you'll see hwo real those clouds are. They aren't some 2D skybox with a 2D haze bitmap in front of the view of everything that's happening.

Take a look at the floor of the dropship before the other dropship gets shot down, it's much sharper, because once they enter that part of the sequence there's an additional filter applied.

Killzone is actual detail with actual lighting on the models, with actually high quality animations, there's so much happening in that level it's crazy, not just from the perspective of the graphics engine itself, but the activity on screen. The storm the filtering light, the thunder and lighting, the flak cannons, dropships being blown out of the sky above you, the way things are caught in the wind.

Art wise, selling Killzone short is a mistake, it's the most technically advanced game running on a console to date, but you don't get graphics like that without good art. The way their post processing is more then enough to shoot the Killzone 2 has bad art argument out of the water.

And Gears is a triumph of art style, not technical achievement, and even then it wears its limitations much more then Killzone 2 does. People really need to get over Gears, it has been sorely over-rated. Especially when used as a technical benchmark.

 

[GFreeman]

Gears was definitely overrated, but this game is already well on it's way to being just as overrated as Gears ever was.