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How many troops needed to secure Iraq's border?

What should we do in Iraq?

  • keep doing what we are doing for the next 10 years

  • pull out very soon

  • only secure their border and do nothing else


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Originally posted by Matt
No, Iraq just has a bunch of suicide bombers crossing their borders.

At anyrate, all I was saying is, the US really is in no position to call themselves an expert on border security.

they do not have a bunch of suicide bombers crossing their borders. the people carrying out the attacks are Iraqis. That's why it's called an Insurgency. Foreigners make up less than five percent of the bombings, and they are alquida, most likely getting help from Iran to get there.
and if you know they are a suicide bomber walking across, then SHOOT them!

Theres a difference between an immigrant wanting to come to america to build a better life, and a terrorist wanting to blow something up. You try to stop the immigrants without harming them, but you shoot the terrorist and call it a day. Much easier.

We have a huge border, and lots of people walk across it. that's why it's so hard to secure.
 
Jourmugand said:
Indeed.The USA should control its own boarder with Mexico and kick out all illegals in the USA,but it needs to show the world that its still a powerful country.Like that will ever happen.

what we need to do is show the world weren't war happy. and kicking out all of the illegals is like trying to kick out all the ants in my two acre backyard. I'll never get them all. If they are going to be here either way no matter what I do, than I'd like them to at least be paying taxes.
 
kane9321 said:
Here's an idea....HEY IRAQ SECURE YOUR OWN F'N BORDER.. great idea huh

actually that's a horrible idea, because they aren't capable of it right now, because we tore down their military and their government. If we left them to do it, it would become so incredibly easy for Alquida to come in and start running the place, because the sh.ite majority which we put in power would welcome it, because the sh.ites in Iraq oppose Israel, and so does Alquida, and the reason Alquida attacked us is so we would stop protecting Israel. If you remember the Sh.ites in Iraq were protesting a few weeks ago death to Israel and the U.S.

that's why I want the US to stop fighting Iraq's civil war and secure their border. If the Insurgency takes over and wins, they will not let Alquida come in and take over. They would fight Alquida viscously.
 
Addendum said:
...and I care what a terrorist thinks?

well when they are thinking about killing you, then yeah I think you should be concerned with that. you should be concerned with all of the who, what, why, when, and wheres that they are thinking. foreign policy is pretty important, and something conservatives often forget when it comes to foreign policy is that the rest of the world has thought and free will.
 
Matt said:
Does anyone else see the irony of a discussion on the UNITED STATES securing Iraq's borders?

Now that you think about it, it's kinda funny :p
 
will somebody please refute my posts or argue with me? It would be much appreciated. :O
 
I have a plan. Instead of sending troops--humans to war--err to secure the border, lets just send machines over. Then when everybody is celebrating over the fact that no more american troops will die, the machines will turn on us. :( just like in Terminator 3: Rise of the machines.
 
enterthemadness said:
I have a plan. Instead of sending troops--humans to war--err to secure the border, lets just send machines over. Then when everybody is celebrating over the fact that no more american troops will die, the machines will turn on us. :( just like in Terminator 3: Rise of the machines.

most likely the enemy would hijack and hack the computers in the machines, and back engineer the technology and suddenly our enemy would have the same weapons we have, and our deficit would be huge from all the money we spent on the robots.
 
Geez you guys suck!
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The only thing that you have to consider is "What's best for American industry?" I can pretty much guarantee you that this is what's most important to the Bush admin. Killing babies aside, where the cheddar at, dog?
 
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