How many will South Africa beat England by in the Rugby today?

[Whirlysplat]

I say potentially Englands biggest defeat. Although I have a bet on for 40 points, what do you guys think?

 

[X-Ray]

Both will lose to New Zealand

 

[Whirlysplat]

Both will lose to New Zealand

Probably true. Although New Zealand usually have the best team on paper and in reality but then choke when it comes to big events like the World Cup. We will have to see if this happens again in 3 months.

 

[Sava]

its sad the state of England now, they went from the best in the world to has beens in 1 year ... thats takes some talent.

 

[Whirlysplat]

its sad the state of England now, they went from the best in the world to has beens in 1 year ... thats takes some talent.

Well, I was 8 points out South Africa won by 48

To be fair retirements, poor management, injury and club commitments haven't helped England since Woodward left to pursue his "football management career", what has happened to that anyway?