How Will Marvel Juggle The Netflix Series?

[kguillou]

Greetings,

So this is something I've been thinking about recently. Marvel has struck gold with their Netflix series. DD and JJ are critically acclaimed and renewed for follow up seasons. But, I'm wondering, eventually I think Marvel will face a little bit of a "conflict>" Let's face it, Luke Cage and Ironfist are likely to do as well as DD and JJ and Netflix will want new season orders for those shows. Then there's Defenders. I'm sure that's going to be a big hit and warrant its own season 2. Then there's the Punisher which was recently announced. By next year Marvel is going to be looking at 6 shows that they will need to keep in rotation and they can only put so much into production at one time (it seems like the model is 2 shows a year). And we're not even getting into other possible Netflix series (Moon Knight, Ghost Rider etc.)

Its a GOOD "problem" to have, don't get me wrong, but how do you guys think Marvel should juggle this new series model? Is it too long of a wait if Jessica Jones or Luke Cage have to wait 3 years to get a season 2? Is there room to branch out to other character series to add to the rotation? What are your thoughts?

 

[NotNickFury]

They'll take their time is what they'll do. I love Daredevil, Jessica Jones, and such, and sure I'll probably think the same of Luke Cage, Iron Fist, Punisher, and whatever is ahead, but if I have to wait a year or two for a new season, the world will keep spinning and you can always rewatch previous seasons because they're still high quality programming. No, it wouldn't be too long of a wait if it's quality versus just rushing something out to meet a deadline.

 

[Zarex]

I could see Danny and Luke's second season combined into a "Heroes for Hire" show with Colleen and Misty. As far as juggling, the Netflix shows may be following the trilogy model of their big screen counterparts. It wouldn't surprise me if season 3 is DD's last year on Netflix (hopefully Charlie will "graduate" to the big screen). If they are operating on a 3 year model it clears up space for new offerings.

 

[DrCosmic]

Aren't JJ or DD3 shooting back to back with Defenders?

If I'm not mistaken, the money for these comes from Netflix, and so Netflix has to judge how much money they're making off of these, and if three series a year will be worth the investment. Scheduling doesn't seem to be an issue, since they're all completely independent in terms of production team.

I suspect it will naturally roll on. I don't forsee a JJ season 3 having much content, for instance, and Cage and IF could roll together, or have her roll in there too. Punisher's not going to have 3 seasons of content either, I don't imagine.

 

[kguillou]

It depends on demand though, man. I think the ORIGINAL plan was for them to just do one season of DD, JJ, Cage and Iron Fist and then do Defenders and go from there. Daredwivl's overwhelminingly positive reception embolded them to do a season two ASAP. What if Luke or IF get similar receptions and there is demand for multiple seasons of each show? I'm sure there will be a lot of JJ fans out there ( people who dont follow production or pot on internet forums like us) who will be wondering when season 2 is coming for that show after its absence this year and next year.

 

[marieylee]

Do 10 episode seasons instead of 13. IMO, as much as I loved JJ, and both seasons of DD, they could have easily cut 2-3 episodes out.

 

[ernesth100]

2016

-Late Year: Luke Cage


2017
-Early: Iron Fist
-Mid: DD S3 or Punisher
-Late: Defenders


2018
-Early: Punisher or DDS3
-Mid: Jessica Jones S2
-Late: Whichever Out Of Iron Fist and Luke Cage is more successful will get S2

 

[metaphysician]

I suspect they will just not have sequels to every show every year. Between that and upping the count to three a year, they should be fine. Of course, if they are successful enough, Netflix could theoretically up the count even further: they are a content driven business, the more content the better.

 

[BatsDC]

Do 10 episode seasons instead of 13. IMO, as much as I loved JJ, and both seasons of DD, they could have easily cut 2-3 episodes out.

Couldn't agree more. I adore both shows, but they'd have benefited from being a little more concise at times.

 

[Dasher10]

2016

-Late Year: Luke Cage


2017
-Early: Iron Fist
-Mid: DD S3 or Punisher
-Late: Defenders


2018
-Early: Punisher or DDS3
-Mid: Jessica Jones S2
-Late: Whichever Out Of Iron Fist and Luke Cage is more successful will get S2

I think it's going to be more like this.

2017
Q1: Iron Fist
Q3: Defenders

And after Defenders is over, Marvel's schedule will be freed up a bit more so we can get more than two shows per year.

2018
Q1: Jessica Jones Season 2
Q2: Punisher Season 1
Q3: Daredevil Season 3
Q4: Luke Cage (assuming that the first season does well)

2019 is when we'll most likely see Iron Fist Season 2 sometime in Q3 since he'd probably be in a second season of Luke Cage (assuming that audiences like Iron Fist) but in the time between we'll presumably get Moon Knight.

 

[Orba]

Do 10 episode seasons instead of 13. IMO, as much as I loved JJ, and both seasons of DD, they could have easily cut 2-3 episodes out.

I don't think they necessarily need to cut the episode number, but they could just stick to doing the number of episodes required to tell the story. So no unnecessary episodes added just to pad things out. Its like the length of episodes varies since they are not tied to a scheduled timeslot, if it needs to be a bit longer its ok, just as if it needs to be a bit shorter.

 

[ernesth100]

I think it's going to be more like this.

2017
Q1: Iron Fist
Q3: Defenders

And after Defenders is over, Marvel's schedule will be freed up a bit more so we can get more than two shows per year.

2018
Q1: Jessica Jones Season 2
Q2: Punisher Season 1
Q3: Daredevil Season 3
Q4: Luke Cage (assuming that the first season does well)

2019 is when we'll most likely see Iron Fist Season 2 sometime in Q3 since he'd probably be in a second season of Luke Cage (assuming that audiences like Iron Fist) but in the time between we'll presumably get Moon Knight.

Very smart. I'd like this,

 

[TheVileOne]

2016

-Late Year: Luke Cage


2017
-Early: Iron Fist
-Mid: DD S3 or Punisher
-Late: Defenders


2018
-Early: Punisher or DDS3
-Mid: Jessica Jones S2
-Late: Whichever Out Of Iron Fist and Luke Cage is more successful will get S2

Neither DD S3 or Punisher are confirmed for 2017. Also recent reports indicate that The Punisher starts filming in 2017. meaning Punisher probably won't be out until 2018 at the earliest.

 

[Dasher10]

Very smart. I'd like this,

Yeah and then juggle which series get new seasons with each year.

Even years get Jessica Jones, Daredevil, Punisher and Luke Cage.

Odd years get Iron Fist, Moon Knight, Blade and Elektra.

Make Defenders one and done and just have the casts overlap as guest stars. Move up to five shows when it's time to introduce a second Ghost Rider to the MCU and there are enough T-Bolts members running around.

 

[ernesth100]

Neither DD S3 or Punisher are confirmed for 2017. Also recent reports indicate that The Punisher starts filming in 2017. meaning Punisher probably won't be out until 2018 at the earliest.

So only two series in 2017?



Actualy thats a good idea. If DDS3 and Defenders happened the same year I personally would be overwhelmed honestly. DD wise. I think they should take a break until after Defenders.

 

[TheVileOne]

So only two series in 2017?

This is the dilemma we are facing with Marvel Netflix. The shows are so good and they need their own continuing seasons but Netflix can only do two a year.

Netflix said they would only do two a year.

So that's as follows:

2015 - Daredevil; Jessica Jones
2016 - Daredevil S2; Luke Cage
2017 - Iron Fist; Defenders
2018 - Jessica Jones S2; Daredevil S3; OR The Punisher (???)

Actualy thats a good idea. If DDS3 and Defenders happened the same year I personally would be overwhelmed honestly. DD wise. I think they should take a break until after Defenders.

The indication is that Jessica Jones S2 will be next after Defenders and they will go straight to filming that after Defenders is wrapped.

The Punisher is apparently going to film in 2017, which would potentially put its release somewhere in 2018 as well.

I think based on these number of shows and if there's a desire to do more, they will have to STEP UP production at some point post-Defenders.

 

[DAM]

I don't think there's really much they can do honestly. There's just no way they can produce six shows a year to give every show a yearly update. However, I think they will be ok in the long run. The Netflix shows are kind of like one big anthology series broken down into individual shows.

They happen to be so good that viewers want them all as much as possible, but I think the larger audience understands that they can all be viewed as he large show/story. Well...hopefully lol

 

[Spider-Fan]

I think they will expand to 3 a year eventually. Just maybe not until after 2018.

 

[gildedmuse]

Totally out there idea, but since they are more like anthologies than truly serialised formats I think you could get away with something less standard.

JJ season 1 was quite simple the best superhero show I've ever seen, but the things that made it great... They are not an easy copy-paste formula for success. We know from interviews that S2 will focus on her side cast.

An obvious choice would be to centre the investigation around IGH. Trish, still wanting to be a superhero, calls in a law friend to help them dig through the company. Maybe reexplore Malc's question if he's really an addict or if it was just Kilgrave. Unlike s1 were we saw other victims only fleetingly, I would give me more focus here. Spend at least a good chunk of the episode seeing th ways that IGH changed them, the various roles in life they've been left with little other choice but to fill. The theme kind of expanded a upon how in S1 they question (but pointedly kept blame vague) who "made" Kilgrave and if he had any other choice. Only know we have some big corporation sort of lording over them, picking these people due to their lack of power. It reflects a common question from gender studies: do you act this way because you want to/were born to/are genetically disinclined to or because culture tells you to/the ptb pressure you/society shapes you.

Partway through have Jenn Walters get hospitalised when an IGH doctor show up at her door and starts feeding her some injection telling her not to worry there is only a 70% chance of death - this is one of their older formulas and he always wondered where it failed. Jump to Trish running up the elevator only to see this guy go flying by like "Oh Jess, thank goodness you got here in ti-tim..... Only at the end of the hall is freaking She-Hulk. Some brawling assumes, as well as some dreaming out and Trish asking how it is she feels. In the comics, She-Hulk is sort of a manifestation of everything Henn Walters has been holding back, and I would like to see a similar theme here. Really as far as introductions go JJ is the perfect show to bring on Jenn as the more restrained lawyer who finders her stride.

Unsure how the series should end, but it should leave you asking that same question. Have another (reacurring) woman take the a more powerful IGH by choice and let her become a villain. While Jenn refuses to play into their power play, this woman sees the inherent if underhanded power she can draw from being precisely who they want.

At some point before this have Trish leave, and have Jessica trust AI to Angrla Del Torro (seeing as she might owe her after getting hers blown up). This could potentially lead to White Tiger or She-Hulk. I think I would up the episode count to 15 just for heroes for hire & roll Lule and Danny toghether. They could even still have sepeperate stories, just with matching themes or overarching plots. Also, if Jessica leaving puts Mal out of a job, I vote Luke take him on (as well as Misty & Wing)

Next Defenders just have Trish show up full Hellcat. Really at that point you would have (possibly) DD (including Matt & Elektra), She-Hulk, Heroes 4 Hire (Jessica, Luke, Danny, Knight, Wing) Punisher, and non affiliated Shang-Chi, Hellcat, and Angela.

At that point, assuming they did a movie Midnight Soms with GR, DS, Blade, Elsa Victoria, and WWBN you could still manage a pretty sweet street lvl Magic team with Hellcat, Angela, Black Knight, Moon Knight, and I don't know Hellstrom.

 

[TheVileOne]

I think they will expand to 3 a year eventually. Just maybe not until after 2018.

One soundbyte, I forget where seemed to suggest if they started doing too many, the show quality would suffer.

 

[scarlet-witch]

I don't think Luke Cage or Iron Fist will take off the way Daredevil and Jessica Jones is. I think their 2nd seasons will just be combined into Defendor's second season, or we'll see them show up in S3 of DD or JJ. I can't see Netflix running all of these at the same time, they'll have to condense them.

 

[BarryAllen]

I don't think Luke Cage or Iron Fist will take off the way Daredevil and Jessica Jones is. I think their 2nd seasons will just be combined into Defendor's second season, or we'll see them show up in S3 of DD or JJ. I can't see Netflix running all of these at the same time, they'll have to condense them.

What makes you think this?

 

[pr0xyt0xin]

If it was me, I'd say they need to go 3 per year. 2 isn't quite holding my attention well enough.

2017
Iron Fist S1
Defenders S1

2018
Spring - Daredevil S3
Summer - Jessica Jones S2
Fall - Punisher S1

2019
Spring - Daredevil S4
Summer - Heroes for Hire S1 (ft. LC, IF and JJ. Intro Angela Del Toro)
Fall - Punisher S2

2020
Spring - White Tiger S1
Summer - Moon Knight S1
Fall - Defenders S2

 

[MadVillainy]

I don't think Luke Cage or Iron Fist will take off the way Daredevil and Jessica Jones is. I think their 2nd seasons will just be combined into Defendor's second season, or we'll see them show up in S3 of DD or JJ. I can't see Netflix running all of these at the same time, they'll have to condense them.

I think Luke Cage definitely will. Especially if the quality is there

 

[TheVileOne]

Realistically, sacrifices might have to be made here. And you know, you can't hit a homerun every time you're at bat either.

One of these shows might turn out as well as the others. I hope that's not Iron Fist because that's the one I really want to hit out of the park, but oh well.

But I think realistically we will HAVE to get three in 2018 if they are serious about delivering Punisher, Daredevil S3 and Jessica Jones S2 post-Defenders.

Timing just worked out so we didn't have to wait as long for Daredevil S2. But now it's becoming so the gaps in new seasons are getting big.