Project862006
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well cheadle cant say he slept with oprah
Let's not get carried away here. Howard was 10x more popular than RDJ (and remains more popular than Patrow, Bridges and Favreau) with the general audience at the time. That's why Marvel paid him what he demanded. Now that RDJ is an A-List celebrity again however, Marvel kicked his ass to the curb (something that Marvel Studios isn't afraid to do with big name actors -- which has earned them a reputation). Justice was done. Howard was asking for too much and he's apparently complicated to work with (similar to Jamie Foxx).
Cheadle is a great actor but his chemistry with RDJ was off. Marvel did the right thing but Don wasn't as well-received as Howard. At this point, casual fans have accepted that Terrance has been replaced but Cheadle won't be as charismatic as Howard in alot of people's eyes.
Let's not get carried away here. Howard was 10x more popular than RDJ (and remains more popular than Patrow, Bridges and Favreau) with the general audience at the time. That's why Marvel paid him what he demanded. Now that RDJ is an A-List celebrity again however, Marvel kicked his ass to the curb (something that Marvel Studios isn't afraid to do with big name actors -- which has earned them a reputation). Justice was done. Howard was asking for too much and he's apparently complicated to work with (similar to Jamie Foxx).
Cheadle is a great actor but his chemistry with RDJ was off. Marvel did the right thing but Don wasn't as well-received as Howard. At this point, casual fans have accepted that Terrance has been replaced but Cheadle won't be as charismatic as Howard in alot of people's eyes.
I tell you one thing, i sure as heck bet Ed Norton is kickin' himself in the ass right now for givin' marvel a hard time. Although, I kind of feel like it's better he wasn't in Avengers.
I don't think he would have been a very good bruce banner in avengers
ThisMost people probably said "who's that" when they said Terrance Howard was in the movie. Let's please not act like Terrance was Denzel Washington or someone.
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I don't know how popular Terrence Howard is in America but in the rest of the world he is far from an A-list actor. I would say there is still a large number of people in Britain have not even heard of him.
I always was upset Norton didn't come back for Avengers, Hulk was like my second favorite Phase 1 movie and I've always liked Norton. But Ruffalo was a great replacement so I'm not mad anymore.
lol honestly no pun intended.
lol I didn't even notice the pun, I just thought "so I'm not mad anymore", is just a funny choice of words for the situation, like..when I hear someone say I'm not mad anymore, I think more of a personal dispute lol, atleast around MA anyway, so hearing you say "im not mad anymore", for something regarding a movie, made me laugh for some reason haha
but now that you pointed out that pun...
I'm still mad. While Ruffalo is a great actor and brought a lot to the role, I think Norton would have been just as stellar thanks to Whedon's script and direction. The crazy idea of Norton and Downey appearing together in an Avengers movie was something I had been anticipating since Norton was cast in 2007, and given how Whedon wrote Stark and Banner's interactions in the Avengers, it would have been so fantastic to have kept Norton through it all. Just a big missed opportunity IMO.Well I was mad when Marvel and Norton couldn't agree on him coming back! haha he's one of my favorite actors so it was a bummer when he wasn't coming back, then Avengers came along and Ruffalo was pretty good. I still have a hard time seeing him in the same exact movie as Norton's Hulk though..
I think he would have. Norton as Bruce Banner is still one of my favorite casting decisions in the superhero movie era, right up there with RDJ as Tony Stark and JK Simmons as J Jonah Jameson.I don't think he would have been a very good bruce banner in avengers
I can. Look at Black Widow. The same actress is almost unrecognizable between how BW was written in IM2 and how Whedon wrote her in The Avengers. I think a similar type of leap would have happened for Norton's Banner. People point to Ruffalo's performance as "delightfully understated, quietly cynical, etc." And to me, that sounds exactly like what an actor like Norton would have been able to deliver. If only Norton's passion for the role (see the features in the TIH dvd) had translated into him being more compromising rather than uncompromising...It's hard to say, but it would have been different than what we got with Ruffalo, and I can't immagine it being better. To me the best live performances of Banner have been Bill Bixby (still my favorite to date), and then Ruffalo.
The sorts of comments he makes in those articles lead me to believe that the rumors about why he left / was booted from the Iron Man franchise are exactly true.
That's the classic Stark. For about the last 10 years Tony has had a goatee in the comics. The classic Tony only had a mustache because they were trying to go for that David Niven type look that was popular in the 60's.