The Avengers Hulk Vs Thor - The Movie Edition

[darkslayer101]

Thor and Loki seemed equally strengthed during their fight. Since Hulk made mince meat out of Loki, isn't it safe to assume that he could do the same to Thor? I just got back from seeing this a 4th time, and Hulk was ownig Thors ass during the latter part of the Helicarrier fight. It is safe to assume that if the pilot hadn't showed up, Thor's goose would have been cooked.

i agree hulk was basically getting the upper hand but thor was much more durable and had a stronger recovery than loki...
like before the jet showed up hulk was slammin around thor and just as the jet started firing thor was quick enough to recover and move out of danger..

 

[BigThor]

once Thor got serious in his fight with loki, after being stabbed, he started throwing him around just like the hulk did

QFT

Once they started fighting without weapons Loki didn't land a single blow other than the "sneak stab".

 

[jadejaws]

once Thor got serious in his fight with loki, after being stabbed, he started throwing him around just like the hulk did

"Just like Hulk did". I'm sorry but you must have been watching a different scene than I was. I really like Thor, but this just wasn't the case.

 

[Golgo-13]

Yeah....except for the fact that Thor got that "barely visible" bloody nose at the beginning of the fight.

He sure wasn't hurt from being thrown into some boxes , remember we're talking about a guy who survived a 30,000 ft drop.

OOOOOO...kay.

Hulk also survived the drop.

At the beginning of the fight Thor was schooling Hulk left ,right and center; the punch to the face, the upper cut with Mjolnir, the knee to Hulks face and putting him in a choke hold. I'm quite sure with the exception of his fight with Abomination, Hulk had never faced an opponent that could hurt him and was stunned...but, once the fight continued Thor was obviously getting roughed up; he was perspiring profusely, his hair was a tattered mess, and he had more than just a 'barely visible bloody nose'... i paid special attention to the fight yesterday, and what people keep stating 'that there wasn't anything happening in between the cut aways' is absurd. There was obviously fighting going on that wasn't shown on screen. I would go as far as to say that if it wasn't for the pilot distracting Hulk, Hulk would have been knee deep in Thors Asgardian..you know what.

This isn't my opinion, this is what Joss Whedon clearly presented on screen.

i agree hulk was basically getting the upper hand but thor was much more durable and had a stronger recovery than loki...
like before the jet showed up hulk was slammin around thor and just as the jet started firing thor was quick enough to recover and move out of danger..

Why would it have been danger? He jumped outta the way of that jet like his life depended on it. I didn't think bullets hurt Thor. If we're talking about Thor being as durable as Hulk then the jets fire-power posed no threat to Thor, as it didn't to Hulk other than it being a nuisance...

 

[jaqua99]

Thor and Loki seemed equally strengthed during their fight. Since Hulk made mince meat out of Loki, isn't it safe to assume that he could do the same to Thor? I just got back from seeing this a 4th time, and Hulk was ownig Thors ass during the latter part of the Helicarrier fight. It is safe to assume that if the pilot hadn't showed up, Thor's goose would have been cooked.

Lol, we are talking about the avengers movie, not Hulk vs.

I don't see why i can't voice my opinion on the matter. I like both characters, and what i saw on screen was unbias. The latter part of that fight, Thor was getting roughed up. He was bloody for christ sake. This is on par with the fact that the longer the fight went on, the stronger Hulk got.

Throwing Thor TWICE, is not getting roughed up.

i agree hulk was basically getting the upper hand but thor was much more durable and had a stronger recovery than loki...
like before the jet showed up hulk was slammin around thor and just as the jet started firing thor was quick enough to recover and move out of danger..

Hulk did not have the upper hand. Both of you, read what I am about to type underneath this.

OOOOOO...kay.

Hulk also survived the drop.

At the beginning of the fight Thor was schooling Hulk left ,right and center; the punch to the face, the upper cut with Mjolnir, the knee to Hulks face and putting him in a choke hold. I'm quite sure with the exception of his fight with Abomination, Hulk had never faced an opponent that could hurt him and was stunned...but, once the fight continued Thor was obviously getting roughed up; he was perspiring profusely, his hair was a tattered mess, and he had more than just a 'barely visible bloody nose'... i paid special attention to the fight yesterday, and what people keep stating 'that there wasn't anything happening in between the cut aways' is absurd. There was obviously fighting going on that wasn't shown on screen. I would go as far as to say that if it wasn't for the pilot distracting Hulk, Hulk would have been knee deep in Thors Asgardian..you know what.

This isn't my opinion, this is what Joss Whedon clearly presented on screen.



Why would it have been danger? He jumped outta the way of that jet like his life depended on it. I didn't think bullets hurt Thor. If we're talking about Thor being as durable as Hulk then the jets fire-power posed no threat to Thor, as it didn't to Hulk other than it being a nuisance...

I have seen the movie 4 times in theaters. And watched the fight many times online. Ive seen the fight about 60 times. Not exaggerating. Also, each scene continues right after where the fight elft off. I recorded the fight on my phone. With no scenes in between their fight.

FACT, this is how the fight went

Thor tackles Hulk Through wall.

They both get up. Hulk throws a punch, Thor dodges it.

Thor counters with a punch, hitting hulk good.

They both swing, Hulk goes to hammer fist Thor. Thor catches it. Tries to talk to hulk, hulk punches him through some boxes, sends thor flying.

Thor gets up, wipes a TAD bid of blood of his nose, smiles, sends Hulk flying with uppercut.

Staggered him. Hulk gets up, throws plane wing at thor, Thor dodges, throws hammer.

Hulk catches the hammer. Cant pick it up. Thor knees him in the fact. Staggering him again.

Thor picks up his hammer. Jumps on his back. Hulk cant grab him, so he jumps up.

They both go crashing up 3 levels. Hulk gets up first. Picks up Thor. Throws him to the ground. Then picks him up and throws him through some boxes. Hulk walks forward, and gets shot. THor gets up, jumps out of fire from the guns, and then leaves.
two throws, Hulk lands 3 blows.

Now. Say again that Hulk was winning that fight. It was even.

Do I need to upload the damn video I am talking about to prove my point?

 

[jaqua99]

OOOOOO...kay.

Hulk also survived the drop.

At the beginning of the fight Thor was schooling Hulk left ,right and center; the punch to the face, the upper cut with Mjolnir, the knee to Hulks face and putting him in a choke hold. I'm quite sure with the exception of his fight with Abomination, Hulk had never faced an opponent that could hurt him and was stunned...but, once the fight continued Thor was obviously getting roughed up; he was perspiring profusely, his hair was a tattered mess, and he had more than just a 'barely visible bloody nose'... i paid special attention to the fight yesterday, and what people keep stating 'that there wasn't anything happening in between the cut aways' is absurd. There was obviously fighting going on that wasn't shown on screen. I would go as far as to say that if it wasn't for the pilot distracting Hulk, Hulk would have been knee deep in Thors Asgardian..you know what.

This isn't my opinion, this is what Joss Whedon clearly presented on screen.



Why would it have been danger? He jumped outta the way of that jet like his life depended on it. I didn't think bullets hurt Thor. If we're talking about Thor being as durable as Hulk then the jets fire-power posed no threat to Thor, as it didn't to Hulk other than it being a nuisance...

Just cause something may not hurt you, doesn't mean you will try to dodge it. If someone throws a bunch of pebbles at you, it wont hurt. But will you just let them hit you? Hell no

and yeah, nothing happened in between the cut scenes. I edited it together, they flow together perfectly, that is a fact. There is no fighting going on in between, We see every bit of the fight. Period.

 

[Bren]

I'm assuming that Thor is not all that familiar with modern human weapons. Which would mean he'd be downright STUPID to risk injury standing there. It's not a sign of weakness jumping out the way, it's a sign of intelligence.

Of course, I would have far preferred having him know they were ineffective against him, and have him ignore them like water drops ( ) and try get back at the Hulk.

It would be downright idiotic to find that high calibre rounds were effective against him. That would pee me off.

 

[Joeyjojo72]

Im guessing it stings a bit to be shot with a 25mm caliber Gatling gun (or equivalent). And the ammo could use depleted uranium for all we know, which might sting even more.

 

[BigThor]

Thor survived a 30,000 ft drop with ZERO damage, plus he survived a point blank repulsor blast so he's clearly bulletproof. However, Thor is not familiar with human weapons unlike the Hulk, I'm sure he's used to dealing with beings in the 9 realms who are able to hurt him.

So naturally being a "warrior" he's going to actively avoid any potential damage unlike Hulk who is a raging brute (in the film).

 

[Golgo-13]

Just cause something may not hurt you, doesn't mean you will try to dodge it. If someone throws a bunch of pebbles at you, it wont hurt. But will you just let them hit you? Hell no

and yeah, nothing happened in between the cut scenes. I edited it together, they flow together perfectly, that is a fact. There is no fighting going on in between, We see every bit of the fight. Period.

O.k, i'm man enough to admit when i'm wrong. The fight does indeed seem to fit together despite the cut aways..but, for those of you saying that Thor was not getting roughed up towards the end of the fight...Thor got rammed through god knows how many levels of floor, slammed on the ground, then pelted through some boxes, all after having hit Hulk with an upper cut, which in his solo film, decimated frost giants like nobodys business.....i think it's safe to assume the pilot saved Thor from a beat down.

 

[BigThor]

O.k, i'm man enough to admit when i'm wrong. The fight does indeed seem to fit together despite the cut aways..but, for those of you saying that Thor was not getting roughed up towards the end of the fight...Thor got rammed through god knows how many levels of floor, slammed on the ground, then pelted through some boxes, all after having hit Hulk with an upper cut, which in his solo film, decimated frost giants like nobodys business.....i think it's safe to assume the pilot saved Thor from a beat down.

Hulk was affected by going through those levels as well, which was evidenced by falling on the floor after breaking through the last level.

It's not safe to say anything, Thor was still in fighting condition at the end of the fight so who knows what would've happened.

 

[Golgo-13]

Hulk was affected by going through those levels as well, which was evidenced by falling on the floor after breaking through the last level.

Your reaching. Hulk stood right up after crashing through the floor, and grabbed Thor - who was still lying there, obviously dazed by the vicious impact.

It's not safe to say anything, Thor was still in fighting condition at the end of the fight so who knows what would've happened.

I'm not questioning that he wasn't still in fighting condition, i'm saying that Hulk still looked obviously fresh, un-hurt and - may i go as far as to say- 'pumped' for much more when the pilot showed up. Hulk was obviously getting stronger the more Thor frustrated him. He was stomping towards Thor when the plane showed up looking meaner and angrier than he did at the beginning of the fight. It is also obvious by Hulk's relentless attack on the plane and the pilot that he was no worst for wear after all Thor had hit him withat the beginning of their fight.

 

[BigThor]

Your reaching. Hulk stood right up after crashing through the floor, and grabbed Thor - who was still lying there, obviously dazed by the vicious impact.

Reaching or not, Hulk still was affected by crashing through the floors I didn't say he was more affected than Thor.

I'm not questioning that he wasn't still in fighting condition, i'm saying that Hulk still looked obviously fresh, un-hurt and - may i go as far as to say- 'pumped' for much more when the pilot showed up. Hulk was obviously getting stronger the more Thor frustrated him. He was stomping towards Thor when the plane showed up looking meaner and angrier than he did at the beginning of the fight. It is also obvious by Hulk's relentless attack on the plane and the pilot that he was no worst for wear after all Thor had hit him withat the beginning of their fight.

Thor only hit him with one big attack which clearly dazed him, Hulk wasn't stomping anyone he merely slammed Thor and threw him. This is the Hulk we're talking about of course he isn't going to be crippled by "one" hammer swing, who's to say he could've taken 10 more of those.

Geez you're acting as if he was just pummeling Thor repeatedly or something, one slam and one throw is hardly "stomping" anyone.

Now who's reaching?

 

[RagingTempest]

Based on the movie versions, the fight was a draw, especially considering it was interrupted. I did notice that The Avengers seemed to down play Thor's power display. While I loved the Ironman fight, I felt Thor let Tony get the upperhand a little too much. I honestly think we never got to see the full extent of Thor's powers until the final battle when he kills 2 Leviathans with a SICK lightning storm sequence and the 3rd with a charged up hit from Mjolnir (of course, with Hulk's initial attack by stabbing the Leviathan in the back) But still Thor for the most part was holding back for the majority of the film. Even when Thor summoned Mjolnir in the Hulk fight, he was more trying to subdue Hulk than trying to fight him toe to toe.

I honestly think Thor, at least the movie version, is definitely more than a match from Hulk. I mean that whole Frost Giants fight at the beginning of Thor shows just how powerful Thor can get when "let's loose" and goes all out.

 

[Superhero 101]

I really hope in the Next Avengers movie we really can have a True Hulk vs Thor fight. I don't know how they could set it up though

 

[BigThor]

Concerning the IM fight, I think Marvel not wanting their cash cow to get pulverised was the biggest reason IM put up such a good fight.

Thor definately seemed more powerful in the Frost Giant battle than he did in TA, but kinda those things happen when you put heroes in a "team" setting.

 

[Fifthchild]

Heres my own summary of the Hulk Thor fight which I feel has a few more details then jaqua's without too much personal interpretation:

Hulk is chasing Black Widow through the helicarrier. He swings an arm and knocks her aside into a wall. He runs into another wall himself and stops.

He walks over to her steadily. He pulls one arm back.

Thor tackles him and they crash through the wall. They are in an aircraft hanger. They roll over for a bit, Hulk begins to get up first, then Thor a moment later.

They circle one another for a bit. Hulk swings at Thor with a punch/grab. Thor dodges. Hulk immediately swings again with a backhand. Thor doesn't really have to dodge and quickly counterpunches Hulk in the face which spins him around. Hulk 360s to turn it into another backhand which Thor ducks.

While Thor is ducked Hulk swings an overhead blow. Thor blocks it with one arm and then brings his other arm up to push back as the Hulk pushes down on him. They push back and forth for a bit.

Thor: "Hulk get a hold of yourself - we are not your enemy."

Thor begins to push upwards and seems to quickly stand up. Hulk then punches him away with his left arm. Thor flies through some crates and offscreen.

[CUT AWAY to another scene]

We see Thor tumbling across the floor with some crates and hear Hulks echoing roar.

Thor is on his knees with both hands on the ground in front of him. He has blood on his nose. Wipes it with his hand and looks at it. Smiles quickly to himself. Holds arm out for Mjolnir.

Mjolnir seems to be taking its time. Suddenly it arrives and Thor spins just as Hulk runs up behind him and launches a jumping punch. The spinning Mjolnir uppercut catches him right on the chin and Hulk is rocked backwards in slow-mo.

Hulk flies back and lands on a plane which is also slides backwards across the helicarrier floor. Hulk stands up but does appear a bit stunned for a second. But then he looks up at Thor, shaking his head furiously.

Hulk tears off a wing from the jet and throws it at Thor who is running towards him. Thor ducks, limbo style, takes a few more steps and then launches Mjolnir at Hulk.

Hulk reaches up and actually catches it but he is pulled backwards quite a distance to the ground. He tries to pick it up. Even the handle wont move. His feet sink into the floor instead.

Meanwhile Thor closes the distance and just as Hulk turns to face him he launches a flying knee which connects squarely with the side of Hulks face. While Hulk staggers backwards he grabs Mjolnir and jumps on Hulks back wraps both arms around his neck and starts using Mjolnir to choke him. Hulk grabs at the hammer, swings his arms and body and then jumps through the ceiling.

[CUT AWAY]

Hulk and Thor crash through the floor, hit the ceiling and fall back down to the floor again.

We see Thor on his back look around himself when suddenly Hulks hand grabs him from the neck down.

[CUT AWAY]

Shield Agent is telling Maria Hill that Hulk and Thor are on Level 4 and that they broke through Levels 2 and 3 or something. Hill says the Hulk will destroy the helicarrier.

Fury tells her to distract him. Hill a jet to approach but to keep its distance. We see the pilot manoeuvring round to the correct place where the Hulk and Thor are. This whole sequence takes a little while, implying there may be a decent sized gap between where they burst through the floor and when we cut back to them.

Hulk has Thor in his hands, and without releasing him, slams him into the ground twice. He then throws him into the wall/ceiling and Thor falls to the ground. Hulk begins to walk over to him and the pilot opens fire.

Bullets hit Hulk in the back. Hulk stops, pauses and turns. Puts an arm up to shield himself. Thor is now crouched on his knees and he dives across the room out of the path of the aircrafts gunfire. Hulk roars at jet before running to the edge of the helicarrier and leaping at it.

 

[Darkest-Knight]

Thor and Loki seemed equally strengthed during their fight. Since Hulk made mince meat out of Loki, isn't it safe to assume that he could do the same to Thor? I just got back from seeing this a 4th time, and Hulk was ownig Thors ass during the latter part of the Helicarrier fight. It is safe to assume that if the pilot hadn't showed up, Thor's goose would have been cooked.

So true. Hulk definitely had the upper hand there, he was clearly much stronger and more durable.

 

[M-2]

So true. Hulk definitely had the upper hand there, he was clearly much stronger and more durable.

But you can argue that Thor wasnt fully vested in that fight with Hulk... Hulk at that point was just mindless ripping through everything he saw, Thor was really just trying to subdue him. He even tries and talk to Bruce to get Bruce to calm down.

Thor didnt bring out his A game, he was holding back, he didn't want to hurt Hulk, he was merly keeping Hulks attention on him, si that others wouldn't be hurt!

 

[Rock Sexton]

But you can argue that Thor wasnt fully vested in that fight with Hulk... Hulk at that point was just mindless ripping through everything he saw, Thor was really just trying to subdue him. He even tries and talk to Bruce to get Bruce to calm down.

Thor didnt bring out his A game, he was holding back, he didn't want to hurt Hulk, he was merly keeping Hulks attention on him, si that others wouldn't be hurt!

Some people need everything spelled out for them. They are incapable of noticing the subtlety of the fight. There was no way Thor was going to go full on Thor-mode. He was trying to both distract and subdue him, hence the choke hold he tried to put Hulk in.

That being said, they still try to show that Hulk is just a powerful brute .... that's how he approaches fights. Thor on the other hand is a skilled fighter, not just all brute strength.

 

[Venomfan]

"Just like Hulk did". I'm sorry but you must have been watching a different scene than I was. I really like Thor, but this just wasn't the case.

u don't remember after getting stabbed, Thor just ends the fight. he even picks Loki up and slams him (thats what i meant by just like hulk) loki rolled off the edge of the building tho before gettin more of a beat down

 

[Flemm]

Tbh, sometimes these discussions about who would beat whom seem to miss the point that the whole idea is that there should be arguments about who would beat whom.

Originally, that's what a lot of these hero vs. hero fights were about: establishing rivalries, giving fans of both characters something to cheer about. It wasn't really about ending debates, but starting them. Certainly Hulk vs. Thor was like that. They stalemated all the time.

So, I thought the movie fights, especially Iron Man vs. Thor and Hulk vs. Thor, did a good job of capturing that spirit, while keeping everything dynamic and fun. With Iron Man vs. Thor, the power difference is greater, so Iron Man is amped and they each get in some good shots. With Hulk versus Thor, Hulk is established as a powerhouse, but Thor is right there with him and really gets in the best shot of the fight with Mjolnir. You can argue that Hulk was about to really kick his ass, or that Thor hadn't really cut loose yet. That's the whole point, really.

 

[Golgo-13]

Reaching or not, Hulk still was affected by crashing through the floors I didn't say he was more affected than Thor.



Thor only hit him with one big attack which clearly dazed him, Hulk wasn't stomping anyone he merely slammed Thor and threw him. This is the Hulk we're talking about of course he isn't going to be crippled by "one" hammer swing, who's to say he could've taken 10 more of those.

Geez you're acting as if he was just pummeling Thor repeatedly or something, one slam and one throw is hardly "stomping" anyone.

Now who's reaching?

Look, we have to judge this fight as one ( a judge) would judge a UFC fight, Boxing match, or the like.

It is based on the number of hits that actually did damage to their opponent. The only hit that remotely did any kind of damage to the Hulk was the Mjolnir uppercut. Thors awesome knee to Hulks face, and the first punch Thor threw were the equalivant of saying you hurt your opponent merely jabbing him. That's all the knee and the first punch was to Hulk, a jab. Now Hulk on the other hand knocked Thor on his ass not only once, but 4 times. 1) The first punch sending him through the crates, 2) the crash through the floor, 3) the slam after that, and 4) then yet again throwing him through more boxes. Don't know about you, but those count as take downs - i understand that the crash through the floor is debatable, but that still gives Hulk a lead on the 'score cards' if you will.

I'd also like to point out that perhaps there was indeed more to the fight off screen, as when it was reported to Hill that Hulk and Thor were on level..whatever...that was the level they had landed on when they crashed though the floors. I'm guessing the dialogue between Hill, Fury and the pilot was about 7 seconds or so, yet when they show us Hulk and Thor again, Hulk has Thor in his hand which is supposed to pick up right after the crash through the floor, but i seriously doubt Hulk just stood there with Thor in his hands for that long, so there's either a continuity issue with that part, or there's more to the fight happening off screen.

 

[Zionite1]

Well the fight proved that MCU hulk was clearly physically stronger than MCU Thor.But that doesnt mean he was more powerful.Thor was clearly holding back against Hulk considering he disnt use a single lightning bolt or storm against him.He held back even more againt Loki.This is why we need Executioner in Thor 2.We need a an enemy Thor can cut loose against full power,no pity

 

[Herolee10]

I'd like to also add that Thor was able to take a full frontal straight shot from Iron Man's repulsors to his face at a 400% power boost and shrug it off like nothing, whereas Loki's been shown to be taken off his feat from a regularly charged Iron Man and from a blast that was shot from a distance and not at his face.

Also, if we go by their encounters in Thor and in The Avengers, Thor's always been shown to be someone who's capable of really laying the smackdown on Loki in a very dominating manner once he put his mind to it and didn't have his "brotherly love" for him in his mindset.