I found this interesting tit bit on the x-men boards

[antariksh]

I did post this but it got moved to the review thread but I think it deserves its own.
I met John ( FX Supervisor of X3) last night at an early screening of the movie. We were allowed to ask Q's after the show. I didnt stick around instead went to the hotel bar where it was screened with my wife to get a drink. After everyone was gone John and the lady from Fox were waiting at the hotel door and I invited them for a drink. We ended up chatting for 1 1/2 hours about movies in general. He worked on Titanic, Abyss, X3, FF, Terminator. This is what he did tell me that got my ears pricked and it made me aswk more and more
***Ian will be playing Mags in the prequal. He is doing the FX to make him look younger.
*** FF2 will have the silver surfer but he was worried as the studio was rushing to get it out ( he had the same misgivings for X 3 but was surprised at how it came out.
*** X 3 was supposed to start with the GG bridge and end with an almighty battle in Washington with Mags lifting the Capitol building and Pyro setting fire to it.
*** Phoenix flame. Sadly they storyboarded it and prevised it but the studio said no as it cost too much.
*** The Juggs and Kitty scne was ripped from a Brithish Levis ad.
*** Ice man was supposed to ice up more, again too costly.
***Cykes should return for X4, there will be an X4.

Is this true??? I will be really happy if John Bruno does the SFX for F4-2 because he can really really pull it off really well even with a less time.

I mean common his resume is impressive and he is an oscar winning vfx supervisor.

If he made X3's ACTION and SFX scenes look much much better (in less time) and more epic compared to the first two X-men movies then I think he is the right vfx supervisor for F4-2.

 

[Flash Fearless]

You found an interesting what?

 

[antariksh]

read the quote man.

John Bruno might be doing the SFX for FF2.

 

[Carp Man]

Is this true??? I will be really happy if John Bruno does the SFX for F4-2 because he can really really pull it off really well even with a less time.

I mean common his resume is impressive and he is an oscar winning vfx supervisor.

If he made X3's ACTION and SFX scenes look much much better (in less time) and more epic compared to the first two X-men movies then I think he is the right vfx supervisor for F4-2.

ok.

 

[antariksh]

ok.

read the quote from the guy antonydavanzo.

 

[Kelly]

Ummmm....who is antonydavanzo?????

 

[Malus]

More importantly, what is a "tit bit?"

 

[Kelly]

More importantly, what is a "tit bit?"

*starts to type*....nooo....walks away from the keyboard....

 

[Carp Man]

More importantly, what is a "tit bit?"

That's a Women with small ones. Itty, bitty, ..... club. I've found many tit bits in my time. JM may have been affraid to say it, but u know me. I'm not bashfull.

 

[antariksh]

hey guys where is the "THING 2005"????????????????????????????????

 

[Abaddon]

More importantly, what is a "tit bit?"

bwahahaha!!!!

 

[antariksh]

tit bit is a really tasty snack in my country. When i was making this new thread i was eating it. It was so delicious that i didn't realize i ended up writing tit bit.

Do you want to taste it. I can send some packets to all of you.

Give me your address, postal code, zip code whatever it is.

 

[Abaddon]

so you were eating bits of tit?

 

[Carp Man]

hey guys where is the "THING 2005"????????????????????????????????

Right here. Under new name. Nothing has changed, especially me. Carp Man = The Thing 2005. Once again standing for truth, justice, and the FF forever. Battling once again against the forces of the night. Battling once again the ditractors, and haters of the FF.

 

[antariksh]

TIT BITS mean i was eating bits (small pieces of) **** (some kind of crispy and spicy stuff).

And btw Carp Man are you sure you are thing 2005 because you don't support fantastic four 2 in a HARDCORE FAN kind of way like the last movie.

 

[Carp Man]

TIT BITS mean i was eating bits (small pieces of) **** (some kind of crispy and spicy stuff).

And btw Carp Man are you sure you are thing 2005 because you don't support fantastic four 2 in a HARDCORE FAN kind of way like the last movie.

They don't get any more harcore then me. The 1st movie was still excelent, the sequel will be better. The detractors ( aka the DC fanboys ) arn't out yet. There all caught up in Superman mania, which is cool. Just wait till production starts, the'll be out in force, and I'll be here defending as before. Hardcore ? That's me. Defender of everything FF ? That's me. Defender of the 1st movie ? That's me. Defender of the 2nd movie ? That's me. Whatever it looks like, to me it will be Fantastic. Got my bright orange Thing T shirt ready. Wore it to every showing I went to with the 1st movie. Thing face on front, and IT'S CLOBBERING TIME !!! on the back. Cleaned, pressed, and ready to go. Hardcore ? Better believe it.

 

[Flash Fearless]

read the quote man.

John Bruno might be doing the SFX for FF2.

I was referring to the "tit bit."

 

[MattC]

Don't get your hopes up too much. I had a conversation with him as well and asked whether he was doing F42, he told me that he wasn't.

 

[Kelly]

Right here. Under new name. Nothing has changed, especially me. Carp Man = The Thing 2005. Once again standing for truth, justice, and the FF forever. Battling once again against the forces of the night. Battling once again the ditractors, and haters of the FF.

Barf bag please.....

 

[Kelly]

TIT BITS mean i was eating bits (small pieces of) **** (some kind of crispy and spicy stuff).

And btw Carp Man are you sure you are thing 2005 because you don't support fantastic four 2 in a HARDCORE FAN kind of way like the last movie.

antarikish, for cryin outloud, its him.....please don't make him go into another speech.....

 

[Kelly]

Don't get your hopes up too much. I had a conversation with him as well and asked whether he was doing F42, he told me that he wasn't.

Why would I get my hopes up over something someone, I've never heard of, said....???

 

[MattC]

Why would I get my hopes up over something someone, I've never heard of, said....???

Because thats the way a lot of people tend to operate Not saying you do/are, just some people.

 

[Kelly]

Because thats the way a lot of people tend to operate Not saying you do/are, just some people.

"a lot".....agreed......and go totally nuts over little bits of information like this.......and no I'm not one that does that....

 

[Carp Man]

antarikish, for cryin outloud, its him.....please don't make him go into another speech.....

Well you know he wanted to be sure. Like I said, same old me, just a different looking box.

 

[antariksh]

hey guys check out this interesting article at www.fantastic411.com

We all complain that the movie wasn't true to comic book but it was for the MOST part.

The movie was made or should i say inspired from FF#1 comic book.






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Date - June 15, 2005
Visions: Kirby Vs. Story
An Indepth Examination
By LigtninStrykez
Welcome to Visions: Kirby Vs. Story, a discussion designed to spotlight the two men who are responsible for the phenomenon coming July 8th: namely, Jack Kirby and Tim Story. The intention of this thread is to enlighten Fantastic Four readers of the greatness that was original artist Jack Kirby, and seeing how the vision he founded in 1961 has been preserved through 2005. It is hoped that newcomers will be educated on the heritage of FF, while us old-timers are reminded of why we fell in love with this comic in the first place.

While some have reservations about changes made to the origin of the Fantastic Four and Dr. Doom, it is important that we don't overlook the faithful rendering of many classic FF moments throughout the film. Today is March 14th, 2005, and already we have plenty of evidence that film director Tim Story and Co. are paying respect to one of Marvel's greatest legends--Jack Kirby--and I'm sure more is to come.

Let's consider some examples of how Kirby's vision and Tim's views on this film are essentially one and the same. I have scanned in excerpts from FF #1 as well as some other early issues, and compared them to the live action development scheduled for release on July 8th. There will be more additions as more information is released. And of course, I encourage any of our resident FF historians i.e. Iron Maiden, Captain Stacey, Vartha, Franklin Richards, Willie Lumpkin etc., to chime in and shed even more light on this examination.

PART I
RAMMING SPEED

As you can see, from the very first few panels of FF#1, the Thing was ramming into oncoming vehicles. From what we can tell, he is responding to an emergency in the 2005 live action film, much as he is in the 1961 comic origin.
THE REAL 'TRAILER'

Also lifted directly from FF #1, Fantastic Four will feature a scene of the Human Torch trying to outfly a missile homing in on his heat trail. I appreciate how the angles shown in the teaser trailer are nearly identical to the drawings that Kirby designed 40-plus years ago.
THROWING COUCHES...AND CARS

The Thing (AKA Ben Grimm) has incredible superstrength. While moviegoing audiences today may be jaded by SFX involving car-throwing, as you can see Kirby already did it first in 1961. It's great seeing how Tim is utilizing this simple, yet effective way to clearing the path of villians.

PART II
CHECK THE LIPS!

One of the most tired-a$$ arguements of the year has revolved around The Thing's look: His unibrow, his size, his coloring, et al. For the record, THE THING IS ONLY SIX FEET TALL, according to Marvel.com. And as you can see from the 1961's rendering, they have indeed gone for his original transformation--not the monstrous designs we see in current comics. These have strayed a great deal from Kirby's original vision, but it's encouraging to see that Tim is trying to honor it. When you look at the live action photo, it's almost as if it was literally lifted from the 1961 page. Check out the protruding jagged bottom lip, and shaded eyes, and the whole melancholy expression on this guy's face. Talk about sticking to the source material...
GREAT BALL OF FIRE

Another wack arguement this year was about the Human Torch's look in the teaser. For some reason, certain fans thought that the Torch should be clearly defined at all times, and that the billowing flames surrounding his flight in the teaser trailer obscured him from view. After examining the source material you can see now why Tim chose this direction. In the early days of FF, Kirby drew the Torch as a pillar of fire. It wasn't until later issues that a more defined look would come for Johnny, as we'll see below. But again, another example of how Kirby and Story's visions are aligned.
TWO SNAPS UP...

Flame on! Taken straight from the 1961 journal, Johnny apparently will be snapping his fingers to flame in the 2005 movie adaption. Another nice touch...and a cookie for us longtime fans.
RED HOT

The SFX on this new film are apparently going to be topnotch. Based on Kirby's "red-hot look" given to The Torch in the comic's early days, Tim & Co. will obviously give Chris Evan's character varying degrees of hotness...including supernova. And yes, the Human Torch will fly and fully flame on.
THAT'S A WRAP
Depending on how impetuous Johnny can be, or the intensity of the situation at hand, one of Reed's most effective ways to controlling the monstrous Ben Grimm, is to literally wrap him up. According to the story boards, this is going to make for some really interesting moments in cinematic history, as we've never seen an elongating live action character do the unthinkable as shown above in 1961 or 2005.
OTHER KIRBYESQUE NODS
IN THE UPCOMING FILM:

• Alicia Masters--a blind sculptor that falls in love with The Thing (portrayed by up-and-coming actress Kerry Washington)
• The Baxter Building--headquarters for the Fantastic Four
• The Yancy Street Gang--a gang that constantly harrassed The Thing
• Cameos from Willie Lumpkin--the Baxter Building's Mailman (portrayed by Stan Lee)
• Collins--the Baxter Building's landlord
• The Fantasticar--We'll apparently get a glimpse of it
• NO SECRET IDENTITIES: The FF will enjoy the celebrity aspect as shown in the comics
• Certain locations in the storyline are actually named after Kirby--literrally! Check these links out for additonal photos!

Kirby Gallery
Kirby Gasoline Station
MY TAKE ON FF #1 VS. STORY'S FILM:
I've been reading the Fantastic Four comics for nearly 25 years. When I first started reading details about the 2005 film, I was impressed by the obvious Kirby nuances sewn throughout this production. This builds faith in me that this film, despite certain liberties taken, may very well be the most faithful of all Marvel films released to date. From the FF trailer and leaked storyboard sketches alone, we can see that much of Fantastic Four Issue #1and other early issues have been clearly lifted for inspiration.
It's ironic that these filmmakers would use FF #1 as their basis for their film--esp. considering the story has been retold throughout the years. Taken out of context, and compared to the comic book art of today FF #1 fares somewhat poorly. After all, the artwork is kinda crude, and the story is very cheesy and simple. Yet despite these shortcomings, Fantastic Four #1 is a brilliant masterpiece that has stood the test of time. In fact, it is one of the three most important comic books ever published behind Funnies On Parade released in 1933 and Action Comics which introduced Superman in 1938. Fantastic Four broke the mode, creating a radical split from the comics that preceded it.
What makes FF#1 so "tite"? Well, before Fantastic Four, a superhero's individuality was simply defined by his occupation. But the Fantastic Four were different: Reed, Susan, Johnny and Ben had personalities, idiosyncrasies, dialogue patterns, unique back stories and a ton of personal conflict. They proved that Superheroes were human, and if Tim Story can capture that element like we are hoping, millions of new heads will be turned on to the FF.