Batman Begins I hate batman begin costume

[Mr. Socko]

And so many people could stab Batman in the eyes in the movies, but they don't do it either. This completely distracts your statement about the bullets, now doesn't it? He doesn't have to be shot several times in the movies. And wasn't at all in Begins, that I recall.

I would prefer he wear a big chunk of metal, it would be more realistic. And in the movie they could tell us "he can move fast in this metal."

 

[CaptainClown]

Well how many criminals in the movie were ever given that opportunity to do so?
Most are scared s*(% less to do anything. It really isn't an argument of realistic because realistically Bruce would have become a lawyer or spend all his money on coke.

It is more of an argument that in a movie if you saw someone get shot with a t shirt like costume that is told is bullet proof and seeing him walk away from that vs. an armored suit that they tell you is light. It depends on how much disbelief you can suspend.

 

[darkknightfan63]

That big black rubber or plastic "HASBRO toy company" design. I hate it!

I hope they change the costume in Batman dark knight. Some thing more articulate.

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Im suprised that Tim Burton didn't use that costume in Batman '89

 

[roach]

You can only suspend your belief so far, I mean a kevlar vest still hurts a bunch after your shot. oh well like I said before we are really two different types of people.

Alex Ross has this awesome painting of Bruce putting on the Batman costume and you can see his back is scarred up.

 

[Mr. Socko]

Well how many criminals in the movie were ever given that opportunity to do so?
Most are scared s*(% less to do anything. It really isn't an argument of realistic because realistically Bruce would have become a lawyer or spend all his money on coke.

It is more of an argument that in a movie if you saw someone get shot with a t shirt like costume that is told is bullet proof and seeing him walk away from that vs. an armored suit that they tell you is light. It depends on how much disbelief you can suspend.

I don't think anyone wants a t-shirt thin costume. I personally think a grey & black batsuit made of neoprene(in real life) with a kevlar-plated chest piece would work perfectly. Although I can understand why others would doubt it. Here on the Batman boards, most users are such a way of thinking, "I haven't seen it on screen, and won't believe it can work until they do it." This is a classic example, ever since '89 proved successful with one route, that being an all black costume made of rubber, it's now the only thing most people believe can even work right. Another example is how I've heard a countless number of times that grey in a bat-suit on screen wouldn't possibly work. When asked why, the usual response is "because the other films didn't use it and all black works just fine."

Alex Ross has this awesome painting of Bruce putting on the Batman costume and you can see his back is scarred up.

I always wondered how Bruce got those injuries in Batman Begins, in the scene where he finally comes to after being knocked out. He gets out of the bed and has huge scars and bruises all over his shoulder. Just where did that come from if he's wearing such a state-of-the-art normex battle suit?

 

[CaptainClown]

I don't think anyone wants a t-shirt thin costume. I personally think a grey & black batsuit made of neoprene(in real life) with a kevlar-plated chest piece would work perfectly.




I always wondered how Bruce got those injuries in Batman Begins, in the scene where he finally comes to after being knocked out. He gets out of the bed and has huge scars and bruises all over his shoulder. Just where did that come from if he's wearing such a state-of-the-art normex battle suit?

Well thats why its so split and fans want different things.
I think his battle suit can protect against like fists or whatever, but when your jumping from a roof to a rail I think your going to be in pain

 

[LegendaryCaleb]

Im suprised that Tim Burton didn't use that costume in Batman '89

ya i was thinkin the same thing...except change the helmet to the batman begins type one

 

[DJ Kornphlake]

I always wondered how Bruce got those injuries in Batman Begins, in the scene where he finally comes to after being knocked out. He gets out of the bed and has huge scars and bruises all over his shoulder. Just where did that come from if he's wearing such a state-of-the-art normex battle suit?

The suit doesn't make him invincible. If you've ever seen the aftermath of someone wearing kevlar getting shot, the point of impact on their body isn't pretty.

 

[slave2catwoman]

Some of us do want a T shirt thin costume. Close, anyway. I can live with the same type of material they used in Superman Returns. Also, I don't think a bullet resistant cloth is that much of a stretch. I have no doubt there will be such a thing in the future. Kevlar would have seemed like a miracle a few decades ago.

 

[MacLeod]

Some of us do want a T shirt thin costume. Close, anyway. I can live with the same type of material they used in Superman Returns. Also, I don't think a bullet resistant cloth is that much of a stretch. I have no doubt there will be such a thing in the future. Kevlar would have seemed like a miracle a few decades ago.

There is a bullet resistant cloth out there now which is just another reason why the rubberized suit is not needed. Every other superhero movie has a suit that is skin tight or close to it, why is Batman the only movie that needs to be wearing more than a fireman does? Realism aside, because lets face it all superhero movies even batman are fake, why can't the character that we all love stay true to what we love about him? Don't tell me because Batman has no powers, that's as sad as the rubber costumes, a half way decent script would allow us to believe almost anything so cloth, spandex, kevlar, t-shirt, etc., would have worked fine. The costume should be a cloth type material, and to even stretch my belief it could have started as the rubber crap from Begins and then change into a better costume in TDK. Unforunately, the opposite occured, it went from rubber to Robocop.

 

[slave2catwoman]

Frickin' A. I don't know why, but there seems to be a lot of people who have this "I like Batman, but I don't like him the way he is, I need to add my two cents to make him better" attitude.

 

[roach]

Because if I was too look at the Burton/schumacher films and say I could do better the first thing to go would be the rubber suit.

 

[Micah12345]

I like my batman in spandex in the comics, and I like him in rubber in the movies thanks.

 

[MacLeod]

Frickin' A. I don't know why, but there seems to be a lot of people who have this "I like Batman, but I don't like him the way he is, I need to add my two cents to make him better" attitude.

We add our two cents because we like Batman and this is not him. Batman is more than a hyped up, rubberized, Robocop, Green Goblin version, it's a style and symbol that has been the same for almost eighty years. If it's not broken don't fix it, why does one man think his version is correct? The fact that it's a "version" at all is wrong, Batman is Batman, black and grey or blue and grey, human looking body, and a cloth type material, it's that simple. The 89 version, even though it was rubber, at least tried to stay true to it to some degree but it went astray after that. If you can't make a better looking costume on film after 18 years since the first rubber suit was created then you shouldn't be making these movies. It doesn't need a new style just choose one of the original ones. There are countless comic books, video games, statues, toys, cartoons, related media, Halloween costumes, etc. to look at to copy so just copy it. It's sad when I would rather see a cheap Halloween costume on film because it's at least accurate in design compared to what probably cost millions of dollars to create and it looks like someone put zippy foam on a wetsuit. The movie isn't reality so people need to stop saying these new suits are more realistic, it's a movie so make the viewers, that's us, happy with what we want to see and that's a Batman costume, not an S&M parade with ears.

 

[Mr. Socko]

Frickin' A. I don't know why, but there seems to be a lot of people who have this "I like Batman, but I don't like him the way he is, I need to add my two cents to make him better" attitude.

Discounting "I don't like him the way it is," that doesn't just apply to a lot of people, it's about 80% of this board, myself included.

Why? Because we believe the character, like most, has room for improvement.

If your opinion is that Batman Begin's Batman was unfaltered and perfect in every way and doesn't need any improvement, then I'm glad you feel that way. As for the rest of us, we come to these boards to discuss what could possibly make the character better visually and formally on paper.

 

[BubbaGump]

I like my batman in spandex in the comics, and I like him in rubber in the movies thanks.

Yeah! t:

 

[slave2catwoman]

I never said Begins was perfect. It was far from it. That costume deviated far from the comics. I say that Batman in the comics is Batman. Movies should stay true to that.
Macleod, I think we are pretty much onthe same page, unless I am reading you wrong.

 

[roach]

The Armor bat suits remind me too much of when Azrael took over as Batman and came up with armor to fight crime....incidently the new armored cape made him glide for short distances just like in BB

 

[MacLeod]

I never said Begins was perfect. It was far from it. That costume deviated far from the comics. I say that Batman in the comics is Batman. Movies should stay true to that.
Macleod, I think we are pretty much onthe same page, unless I am reading you wrong.

I've read your posts before and I too believe we are thinking the same way on this. Begins deviated from the comics in both story line and the suit, it was a good movie, I just don't think of it as a Batman movie. It's just a vigilante movie who happens to wear a cape and long ears. Looking at TDK I think it will deviate even further from the comics in regards to story and costume, heck, the Joker is only putting on make-up, there's a change I dont' like already and that's not even talking about the Bat suit. The suit in TDK, like Begins, will be a far cry from what Batman is or should be. People cried foul when Schumacher put nipples on the suit, I was one of the crying people, but at least the rest of the costume style wise was closer to the comics than Begins or TDK ever were. Obviously a movie will not please everyone but it's a pretty sure fire bet that when millions of comic readers look at the same costume week after week for almost eighty years that they would be easily pleased to see that same look in live action. That would be like making Superman's costume brown and orange just because the director says it's better and then come up with a sad story line on why it's those colors. No would agree to that but yet Batman is not wearing more rubber than in any other movie, you would think with twenty years of technology they could have made something less rubbery looking and more Batman looking. It's sad, just sad.

 

[MacLeod]

The Armor bat suits remind me too much of when Azrael took over as Batman and came up with armor to fight crime....incidently the new armored cape made him glide for short distances just like in BB

It's ironic that you mention that because when we look at Azrael we know it's not Batman even though he's wearing a re-created Batman suit. That's how I view Begins and TDK, it's called Batman but to me it's just a guy wearing rubber, a cape, and ears, it's not Batman.

 

[slave2catwoman]

I still think it is mostly inflated egos. These people who think that an iconic character needs their help need to get over themselves. When you can create something that endures as long as Batman or Superman, maybe then I'll take your little "improvements" seriously. Until then, leave the characters as they are and concentrate on writing good scripts.

 

[MacLeod]

I wasn't a fan of the Batman Begins costume at first. Then I saw the movie and was. It's the first suit. It's not gonna be cool and stylized. It did the trick, though.

Any suit will do the trick, it's a movie, the audience is going to believe what they see, for the most part. The 89 suit was impossible to move in but it did the trick back then too. The point is that it is a movie, create something that is for and of the character and not just for the movie. Batman will win the fights and save the day in a 100 lbs. suit or a 2 lbs. suit because it's in the script and not reality. Besides, it's not like we can see him move better in these new suits because all the action scenes are horribly edited anyway. I would be perfectly alright if the Begins suit was the first attempt and a more comic styled suit came next but I got teased on that one because the TDK suit is worse than the Begins one. People yelled at Schumacher for making the suits too homosexual but here's Nolan putting more rubber on a man than an S&M dominatrix. Get rid of the rubberized suits, get rid of Nolan for that matter, and give us a Batman for the fans, a Batman that acutally looks like Batman and not a grey Green Goblin.

 

[CaptainClown]

I still think it is mostly inflated egos. These people who think that an iconic character needs their help need to get over themselves. When you can create something that endures as long as Batman or Superman, maybe then I'll take your little "improvements" seriously. Until then, leave the characters as they are and concentrate on writing good scripts.

Well it also requires a really stubborn person to refuse to try something new.
See how it works? Not saying that about you and Mac, yet people just have different tastes and I don't think Batman fans would eye to eye for a long time.

 

[MacLeod]

Well it also requires a really stubborn person to refuse to try something new.
See how it works? Not saying that about you and Mac, yet people just have different tastes and I don't think Batman fans would eye to eye for a long time.

I'm ok with trying something new, in actuality I wasn't against the Begins costume totally until I realized that was all there was and there was no improvement on it. Then I was open to a new idea when the WB said Batman would have a new costume in TDK. I figured, great, now this new suit will be the one that captures the essence of Batman. In both cases I was open to a new idea or a new way of creating the character and both times I was severly dissapointed. I can also respect trying something new if it is in fact new, Begins and TDK are nothing more than rubberized suits, suits that have been in the past four movies. There may be slight variations, neck turning, easier to move, etc., but it's still rubberized. Honestly, if Begins just came out with a real costume, something similar to the comics like all other superhero movies have, than the fans would have nothing to complain about because there would be no frame of reference to complain over. I complain because we were teased with yet another Batman movie that doesn't fit the story of Batman or the costume of Batman. If that is the new I'm supposed to get used to than I'm sorry to say I don't like that new version because it's not Batman, it's just some guy wearing rubber.

 

[CaptainClown]

Many of my non comic friends would tear that movie apart if he didn't have armor. It especially wouldn't look right in the type of setting that was set up in BB. These non-comic friends outnumber regular fans and they are the ones that are going to see it. If it was a regular superhero such as uh Flash then many people would understand because he has super powers but Batman doesn't.

Just because you were dissatisfied doesn't mean the whole fan base was. I am not too sure about the leaked pictures but oh well. As I said before your concern is legitimate but still very minor. Well unless you just care about how he looks