Batman Begins I hate batman begin costume

[MacLeod]

Ok, so when you say it looked bad in most scenes, do you mean too tight, or looked crooked....?



I can't say I agree about the nose and ears, but the mask mouth piece could have done with more space, I agree. Especially around his cheeks:

The Cape was an after thought? I thought they made a bigger deal out of the cape in this movie than any of the others. You know, using it glide, or soar away etc.



Yeah, I did miss the custom yellow Bat symbol, too.



I think the electricity in the gloves is something that can be turned on. Otherwise I doubt he'd be able to hold anything, like carrying Gordon, or Rachel, or that Narrows kid.

As for the design, again, I thought the design looked fine. More armour like, with none of the body shaped muscles on it like B89's had.



Pointed as in a pointy tip, or just kind of point upwards at the top? The Begins boots did come up in a flat type point:

If they could make that grey spandex and blue underwear somehow work on a movie version of Batman, then I hope they do it. As it stands, I can't see how they could do it.

With Spider-Man and Superman, they have two things in their favour:

1. They're both super powered beings. The costume is not needed for protection from injury. They have abnormal speed, strength, and agility. Batman is just a normal man. Albeit a well trained man, but still a flesh and blood human being. The armoured costume is needed to help protect him. As was made a point of when Lucius was talking about how the suit can stop a knife attack or gun shots.

2. Spidey and Supes wear brightly coloured red and blue costumes. The spandex works better with brightly coloured costumes, IMO.



No prob. I enjoyed replying to you.

No hard feelings, I hope.

You son of a …... Just kidding, no hard feelings at all. I appreciated and also enjoyed the way this was handled. Here are my follow up opinions, I hope they make sense.

The mask looked too tight and too round in my opinion. Batman should have a narrow type look, or at least try to, and the mouth opening should not make it look like the mouth is trying to escape the mask. Also, the mask just rests on the suit; it made it look like it was just a mask and not part of an entire look. I realize the cape now has a purpose and they explained it, I just think the way it looks is wrong. It’s attached by clips and is put on top of the costume, it makes it seem as if it’s a tool not a look. Again, I realize it’s a tool for gliding but let’s face it, we all like capes and Batman makes his look good when it’s part of the costume/mask and not just attached because it has to be. The design of the suit is what bothers me actually. I miss the muscle look. Batman is a man and should look like a mix between a man and a monster type figure. The Begins design is too streamlined and robotic looking for my liking which takes a way from that human look. When I see muscles I think the person is really strong, when I see lines I think armored suit. Just because he needs armor doesn’t mean it has to show it that way. The reason I have a problem with rubber is because there are other ways of doing a comic accurate suit. Granted, all other movies have vibrant colors and have super powers but they also have their actors wearing muscle suits under the costumes to make them look better. This idea can be used but stated as under armor and the costume can go over that. It can still be a dark gray and black resistant material but it can look comic accurate and still work with under armor underneath. As far as the boots, it would be nice to see the pointy tip but I’ll take the boots that are there.

 

[WholeMovies1]

there's no way in HELL he could jump off buildings in this stuff....before Bruce is a guy in a bat suit, he's a ninja.....If he didnt need the cape he would've gotten rid of it. If a COW was scarier than a bat then he would have been COWman....If it was up to him he would have been wearing a ninja suit but he needs that scary bat look, which kinda hampers things...but yea he duz look like a bunch o lego blocks nolan put together

 

[Punk&ComicBooks]

Batman aint gunna fit into any of his vehicles with those big long ears...I prefer short ears because......well Batman takes the image of a bat, duh! Has anyone ever seen an actual bat? They dont have long rediculous ears. Yea in the comics some artists just make them longer to be different and thats thier style but in live action movies BB to me is the first batman movie to nail the perfect size! The only thing i didnt like about the BB suit was the abdominal design...and lets be honest- a cloth cape as opposed to a leather cape makes more sense

 

[MacLeod]

Batman aint gunna fit into any of his vehicles with those big long ears...I prefer short ears because......well Batman takes the image of a bat, duh! Has anyone ever seen an actual bat? They dont have long rediculous ears. Yea in the comics some artists just make them longer to be different and thats thier style but in live action movies BB to me is the first batman movie to nail the perfect size! The only thing i didnt like about the BB suit was the abdominal design...and lets be honest- a cloth cape as opposed to a leather cape makes more sense

Everything you said is correct, however it's not about making sense really. It's a movie, the entire point of watching a movie is to, well, watch it. I personally want to see what looks good and forget if it will work correctly. Let the story makers come up with why it works and let the design team come up with why it looks good. Long ears may look better and a leather cape may look better too. Are they realistic, no, but neither is Batman so I say make it look good; basically make it look better than Begins.

 

[MacLeod]

there's no way in HELL he could jump off buildings in this stuff....before Bruce is a guy in a bat suit, he's a ninja.....If he didnt need the cape he would've gotten rid of it. If a COW was scarier than a bat then he would have been COWman....If it was up to him he would have been wearing a ninja suit but he needs that scary bat look, which kinda hampers things...but yea he duz look like a bunch o lego blocks nolan put together

I like how they tried to explain everything but the suit still looks like crap to me. That's why a light under armor with a resistant cloth material as a suit would have worked well. It would still be flexible for moving and be able to be comic book accurate at the same time.

 

[El Payaso]

Even If I liked a lot Batman's Tim burton film, I think he was wrong not to try the Grey & black outfit of batman. Some people here are used to the black and rubber Batman for so many years they think thats how he should be. They don't believe the grey one is possible .

I truly believe they have seen both alternatives and think black rubber was so much better not only because it provides the necessary protection but the black is THE Batman colour.

Some have nightmare of the grey costume because of the 70's tv show. But let s forget about that. I know that with the artist of today we can do something really good.

Nolan had the chance. He didn't take the risk though. His fault.

I think Nolan is in a more delicate position than Tim cause he is doing batman begins god damn it! He should give an homage to the character by starting with the grey& balck costume.

Just to give u an example let say Nolan was doing Spiderman would u like him to have his own vision of spiderman like all in red or all in blue or the one we have right now close to the comics?

Thing is Nolan is far from a delicate position - as delicate as doing a popular superhero cinematic franchise is - because he has so many previous attempts to learn from.

That's why he can make a realistic approach keeping the black rubber suit which is already proven to be a good choice.

 

[Mr.E.Nygma]

Apart from being teh puffy, Bale's suit is fine. I mean, his Batman wanna be safe, protected wisely in hsi quest or justice, so don't put him in tights that won't stop bullets, or imagine what he would've done when catching fire of Crane in normal clothing would've been efficient? Kevlar is the way to go!

 

[Doctor Baywatch]

but the black is THE Batman colour.

actually it's blue and grey.

 

[ANTOINE X]

I truly believe they have seen both alternatives and think black rubber was so much better not only because it provides the necessary protection but the black is THE Batman colour.



Nolan had the chance. He didn't take the risk though. His fault.



Thing is Nolan is far from a delicate position - as delicate as doing a popular superhero cinematic franchise is - because he has so many previous attempts to learn from.

That's why he can make a realistic approach keeping the black rubber suit which is already proven to be a good choice.

No my friend! What you re saying is that what Nolan is doing is the right thing. How can you prove it since we never saw A Batman movie with the grey & and black costume? Nothing is right until proven. So Which mean if Nolan was doing spider man all in red because he thinks it s not possible in red& blue would you agree? And why are you so obsess with things to be realistic? Forget about the protection. it s not a kid that he s inside that bat suit but a man who knows martial art and who knows what it is to be hurt and who knows how to dodge bullet like any other heroes! Again if you can see 007 with no vest fighting against an army then do the same thinking for batman! It s pure fantasy nothing more!

 

[ANTOINE X]

Apart from being teh puffy, Bale's suit is fine. I mean, his Batman wanna be safe, protected wisely in hsi quest or justice, so don't put him in tights that won't stop bullets, or imagine what he would've done when catching fire of Crane in normal clothing would've been efficient? Kevlar is the way to go!

Than why don't you say the same thing for 007 why don't spider man wear a big coat with some boots and a hat in the middle of winter? Why is superman wearing a red short when he already have a blue pants? Are you going to give an explanation for all of them so it look real?

 

[MacLeod]

Than why don't you say the same thing for 007 why don't spider man wear a big coat with some boots and a hat in the middle of winter? Why is superman wearing a red short when he already have a blue pants? Are you going to give an explanation for all of them so it look real?

I think we have to stop trying to be "realistic" and stop worrying about making Batman movies as realistic as possible. Batman is the most reaslistic character because he has no powers but let's face it, it's a comic book character and it's all fantasy no matter how much you try to say otherwise. It is time somone makes a Batman movie with a grey/blue suit or a grey/black suit and make the storyline support that choice. We, as an audience, do not have to worry if the suit can stop a bullet or knife, we just have to believe that Batman has figured out a way to do it and enjoy the ride. If he wears a fabric suit we have to believe that all will work out because the hero always wins. Movies are about visuals otherwise it would be a radio drama. The visuals we need are a Batman wearing an accurate Batman costume just like Daredevil, Superman, Spiderman, Ghost Rider, The Hulk, and The Fantastic Four did. If the storyline or action doesn't allow that to occur than there needs to be another story creator and action coordinator. It's that simple. I remember watching Batman 89 and never once worried about if the suit could actually do what it was supposed to do, I was too busy being in awe of the movie. The same thing needs to occur now only with a new comic accurate suit. I want to hooked into a movie that has Batman not Robocop with ears.

 

[ANTOINE X]

Seriously I retire and I give all my wish to a black & grey or a blue& grey batman in JLA!

 

[roach]

I think it shows that Bruce didnt have alot of faith in his ninja abilities if he thought he needed armor. Think about it. His standard OM was to strike from the shadows.

 

[MacLeod]

The ninjas wore armor themselves, so I don't see how he's not believing in his ninja training.

One martial art chest plate compared to a full rubber body suit is a big difference. Let's not forget either that it's not Bruce Wayne who decides if he needs protection or not, it's movie creators. This is a fantasy piece, the movie creators made the decisions. They decided again to make a non-believable rubberized suit.

 

[ANTOINE X]

I said I retire..but I didn't say when.


here some nice costume I found in this web site

http://web.mac.com/batinthesun/

 

[MacLeod]

I said I retire..but I didn't say when.


here some nice costume I found in this web site

http://web.mac.com/batinthesun/

Perfectly done.

 

[roach]

wow the villains and Robin look crappy but that is the perfect Batsuit IMO
now imagine if some award winning costume designer did that with a hollywood million it would be ten times better

 

[Diamondhead]

The Bratman brigans costume was more fit to little red riding hood
And I think the little red riding hood should be in the sequel “the dork knight”
Lol

 

[MacLeod]

I think it looks terrible.

Why, because it's a muscular man in a Batman costume? Sorry if it's not another rubberized monstrocity but instead a design that actually looks like something from the past 70+ years of comics. If the muscle look is not realistic enough for some just tell yourself it's under armor and all should be well. Believe it or not, that is Batman and not rubberman or S&M man like we are forced to see.

 

[roach]

I look at these pics and the ones of the Alex Ross statue and it makes me wonder if they even tried before going to the Rubbersuit

 

[Axtech]

Why, because it's a muscular man in a Batman costume? Sorry if it's not another rubberized monstrocity but instead a design that actually looks like something from the past 70+ years of comics. If the muscle look is not realistic enough for some just tell yourself it's under armor and all should be well. Believe it or not, that is Batman and not rubberman or S&M man like we are forced to see.

you know, a civilized person would ask why he doesn't like it instead of putting idiotic words into his mouth and then discounting them as if you're actually proving something he said wrong.

 

[Batmans Spirit]

Seriously I retire and I give all my wish to a black & grey or a blue& grey batman in JLA!

ROFL.

Begins Costume to me was great, if they made parts of it grey like in the comics then that would be perfect! Don't even need to change the symbol or cowl imo.

 

[MacLeod]

you know, a civilized person would ask why he doesn't like it instead of putting idiotic words into his mouth and then discounting them as if you're actually proving something he said wrong.

A civilized person would have one, not stated that someone else was using idiotic words, two, stayed out of others business, and three, defended his/her own opinion the first time something is stated so others wouldn't feel the need to fill in the gaps if they so choose. If you have read any of my previous posts you would see that I am nothing but civilized so forgive me for the one time where I voice my opinion after someone put down a comic accurate costume in the "I hate batman begins costume" thread. A better way of communicating is for either one of you to voice your opinion about the costumes and not attack another person. It may have seemed that I was attacking the persons opinion but I was really concentrating my thoughts on the costume. Try to the same before trying to put me down.

 

[MacLeod]

I look at these pics and the ones of the Alex Ross statue and it makes me wonder if they even tried before going to the Rubbersuit

They probably did and thought of spandex and got scared or thought about the ultra realistic world they were trying to create and thought they had to the right to change the character to fit into a world they altered. Either way I would have given anything that resembled the pics on this page or an Alex Ross design.

 

[jocal62]

Your two cents should be given dollar amounts, I don't know if I could have said any of that better. That was perfect, my thoughts exactly. I mentioned the Flash a long time ago so it's good to see someone else that thinks like me and has what I think is a very, very valid point.

Thanks Macleod, though my said piece wouldn't in any way alter what is already in the new film, it's nice to be able to say something, however small and immaterial and irrelevant it is, as long as it said within the confines of good manners and respect for the next guy...