Batman Begins I hate batman begin costume

I said I retire..but I didn't say when. :grin:


here some nice costume I found in this web site

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Look like crap. Not to mention his belt is too huge & the trunk got to go. Well, in real life that is.
 
Robin's costume doesn't look too bad, but it's not great either, the rest are just terrible. All of them.

This debate is never - ending!!!! :wow:

The costumes we have in the movies fit the tone and style of them... perhaps down the years you may get your spandex costumes or watch the 40's serials :cwink:
 
Those pics look better than the movies. At least the bottom two of Batman. The rubber suit does often look like a weird sludge monster.
 
they;re fan films man They look good for fan films
 
they;re fan films man They look good for fan films

I would rather see these fan film costumes compared to more bulky rubber. These costumes may not be the realistic material that may be needed for fighting crime but at least they are not rubber, again. These costumes are comic accurate, I think it's time for Batman to look like Batman and not a mix between Robocop and the Green Goblin.
 
it's odd that Raimi caught so much flack for his Green Goblin yet Nolan is praised for his Batman(they are pretty much the same suit just painted different colors)
 
It was really Green Goblin's mask that gave it that "Power Ranger" feel. But how else could they have approached this suit, and made it not goofy? I mean, when you think about it, Spiderman's villains are all pretty silly.
 
it's odd that Raimi caught so much flack for his Green Goblin yet Nolan is praised for his Batman(they are pretty much the same suit just painted different colors)


You have got to love the double standard, especially when it comes to a lack of creativity. I could see it now, "Let's make our new Batman look like the Green Goblin and make it out of rubber, yeah, that sounds like it was never done before." To add further to Raimi getting flack about the villian I remember hearing people complain about the raised webbing on the Spidey suit. Raised webbing got people annoyed where the rest of the suit was 100% accurate yet an entirely different looking Batman for each movie and from the comics and we're supposed to be ok with it.
 
It was really Green Goblin's mask that gave it that "Power Ranger" feel. But how else could they have approached this suit, and made it not goofy? I mean, when you think about it, Spiderman's villains are all pretty silly.

Unfortunately I can't find that mask anymore but someone did a pretty accurate mask of green goblin 2 years ago. Thats the one they should have used. Ill post it if I can ever remember where I saw it!
 
Unfortunately I can't find that mask anymore but someone did a pretty accurate mask of green goblin 2 years ago. Thats the one they should have used. Ill post it if I can ever remember where I saw it!

The movie book for Spiderman showed all the concept drawings for the Green Goblin. Some of those were better than the one they chose. On the bright side though Spidey looked really good which is something I can't say for Batman at this point. Both the Joker using face paint and the Green Goblin Batman suit makes me very dissapointed.
 
it's odd that Raimi caught so much flack for his Green Goblin yet Nolan is praised for his Batman(they are pretty much the same suit just painted different colors)

Same suit? GG's costume surely isn't rubber. Or at least it barely like one compare to the BB or TDK. Care to point out what costume the GG one is made of or give a link please? Beside, we seen the Batman suit like in BB & TDK before since Burton's first film. And you're thinking Batman suit is like GG because they're both are armor, even thought they look nothing alike. Not even using different color. Weak.
 
I really don't see the big deal with the Begins suit. I mean I'll admit I'm a bit of an ameture, but I think it looks fine. Most people who go to see the movies don't dive extremely deep into the functional design of the Batman costume. And it looks cool right, so what's the problem?
 
it's odd that Raimi caught so much flack for his Green Goblin yet Nolan is praised for his Batman(they are pretty much the same suit just painted different colors)

Maybe it's due to the fact that they're different characters and what's good for one is not for the other. Much like I loved LOTR armours but I wouldn't put one on Superman.
 
I really don't see the big deal with the Begins suit. I mean I'll admit I'm a bit of an ameture, but I think it looks fine. Most people who go to see the movies don't dive extremely deep into the functional design of the Batman costume. And it looks cool right, so what's the problem?

Exactly. If anything, the Begins suit is so unremarkable that you don't really notice it most of the time. It's not exactly distracting. And out of all the rubber suits, I think this body suit fits the actor the best, allowing for the widest range of movement. The cowl can be argued, but again, this cowl moved better than any of the other big-screen rubber cowls.
 
I have been hearing this over and over and still can't catch that in the mvoie.

Oh, it's not the most flexible thing on the planet, but you'll notice he doesn't have to throw his back out just to look up--Keaton's cowl was by far the most restrictive.

Check out the scene where he's interrogating Crane. The cowl twists around at the neck, showing that it is indeed flexible.
 
Same suit? GG's costume surely isn't rubber. Or at least it barely like one compare to the BB or TDK. Care to point out what costume the GG one is made of or give a link please? Beside, we seen the Batman suit like in BB & TDK before since Burton's first film. And you're thinking Batman suit is like GG because they're both are armor, even thought they look nothing alike. Not even using different color. Weak.


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Seriously, you don't see similarities? Big shoulder pads, stylized abdominal muscules, monochromatic suit, over exagerated chest, arms and legs are overly designed, all three have machine looking armor compared to human looking, etc. You can state the differences all you want but let's be honest, they are not human looking, clearly armored, and resemble something other than the Batman look.

I'll give you something else these remind me of,

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My point is the Batman cotumes are no longer Batman suits, they are armor, plain and simple. They're not even trying to hide the fact anymore, it's reality based to the point where the idea of Batman is gone and "the real world" is in. This isn't a real world, Batman isn't real, neither are the other two figures here so why try so hard where the end result is something that can be this easily disputed? I would end this with the word, "weak" but that really doesn't put anyone in their place and in itself would be, "weak."
 
I'll say it---they probably use black rubber because it looks more interesting than Batman's comic costume. The best elements about the comic design, IMO, are the cowl, the scalloped cape, the gauntlets on the arm, the utility belt, and the logo. That's it. The trunks don't make the costume, and neither do gray tights. Those work well in comics and in (simpler-styled)animation because they make tracking Batman's movements that much easier, through contrast. As long as you have those iconic elements, you pretty much have Batman.

Other than trying to appease fanboys with an incredible eye for picking up details, there is absolutely no reason for Christian Bale to run around in gray tights and black underwear.

Batman is "real" in live action, and a "realistic" approach is a nice way to go at this franchise, because Batman has no special powers. He's just a dude in a suit who has gadgets and knows how to fight. Part of the charm of Nolan's take on Batman is that you get to sense what Batman would be like in our world. Sure, that's not everyone's cup of tea, but it's not a totally invalid way to approach this character.

Those Batman and Robin suits listed earlier in this discussion are decent for fanboy work, but in the end, really look no better than what the best can do at Comic-Con. They look more like costumes than something functional, IMO.
 
I'll say it---they probably use black rubber because it looks more interesting than Batman's comic costume. The best elements about the comic design, IMO, are the cowl, the scalloped cape, the gauntlets on the arm, the utility belt, and the logo. That's it. The trunks don't make the costume, and neither do gray tights. Those work well in comics and in (simpler-styled)animation because they make tracking Batman's movements that much easier, through contrast. As long as you have those iconic elements, you pretty much have Batman.

Other than trying to appease fanboys with an incredible eye for picking up details, there is absolutely no reason for Christian Bale to run around in gray tights and black underwear.

Batman is "real" in live action, and a "realistic" approach is a nice way to go at this franchise, because Batman has no special powers. He's just a dude in a suit who has gadgets and knows how to fight. Part of the charm of Nolan's take on Batman is that you get to sense what Batman would be like in our world. Sure, that's not everyone's cup of tea, but it's not a totally invalid way to approach this character.

Those Batman and Robin suits listed earlier in this discussion are decent for fanboy work, but in the end, really look no better than what the best can do at Comic-Con. They look more like costumes than something functional, IMO.

So, if the essentials are all we need then we can go with either one of these costumes then and call it a good Batman suit.

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You are absolutely correct in everything you said. However, there are two small problem with that rational thinking, one, both Batman costumes above are horrible, and two, the viewers of the movie do not need to know the functionality of the cosutme, it's all fantasy anyway. The functionality approach has been done seven times prior to TDK, all rubber, all protection, all overdone. Having the essentials and calling it functional for realistic purposes does not make a Batman costume, the look of a Batman costume makes it a Batman costume. For some reason everyone gets stuck on the rubber/spandex arguments without ever wondering if something else can be created to fill both the look and realism that people are worried about. Nolan's take on Batman, suit wise, is no different than the other two directors so why is Nolan getting credit instead of blame? I'm sure that alone will start a riot for all the Nolan lovers but the point stands, there have been eight rubberized suits and not once has anyone tried anything different. Under armor under a protective cloth material would fix all protection and comic accuracy problems but for some reason it's not approached and I can't figure out why. If the trunks on the outside are a big problem fine, get rid of them, (eventhough Superman has trunks outside of the suit and it works) but the rest should stay close to some comic accuracy in my opinion. Fan boy ranting or not seeing the same rehashed idea for the eighth time and claiming it's for the "realistic" feel of the movie is a not a decent reason anymore. I would much rather have someone come up with a better costume and a storyline that would support it, now that would be impressive.
 
I mean look at him! You can clearly see He doesn't look comfortable in that tick rubber suit. This is what happen when you re focusing too much on the protection. They really should redesign it from scratch and I can help them :o

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I just realized what really bothers me about the armor costumes. It would take forever to put them on. And you would likely need help to do it. How practical is that for a hero who needs to move out fast?
 
I mean look at him! You can clearly see He doesn't look comfortable in that tick rubber suit. This is what happen when you re focusing too much on the protection. They really should redesign it from scratch and I can help them :o

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Yea because when I watch a movie, I always wonder how comfortable the character's costumes are!:yay:
 
I just realized what really bothers me about the armor costumes. It would take forever to put them on. And you would likely need help to do it. How practical is that for a hero who needs to move out fast?

he would need to have a longer batpole than Adam West had...lol:brucebat:
 

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