I think Supes is immortal

The Leaguer said:
It's possible that he just advances to maturity quickly and stays at that general state for a while.

That really doesn't make much biological sense.

The Leaguer said:
...Are you okay with that?

Why are you guys asking me that?

Assassin said:
not if he ****in lives in the sun...that was my point

Oh. Well, anyway, I think he still ages. It's just, with the super charge he gets from the sun, it really doesn't effect him in the slightest.

Assassin said:
i mean if thats okay with you, sir

Why the hell do people keep asking me that? :confused:
 
well because you're the mr know all who can end all, we dont want to piss you off, sir
 
Gaining ridiculously powerful superpowers doesn't make much biological sense, either.

If that's okay.
 
Assassin said:
well because you're the mr know all who can end all, we dont want to piss you off, sir

Since when have I ever been that? :confused:

The Leaguer said:
Gaining ridiculously powerful superpowers doesn't make much biological sense, either.

I suppose. Although, Superman's powers are actually somewhat plausible under the right circumstances.

The Leaguer said:
If that's okay.

Stop saying that. :mad:
 
For all intensive purposes, he was dead. It's likely DC would support that statement. To give pause, look up these creatures called water bears.

http://www.museums.org.za/bio/tardigrades/index.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_bear

"Cryptobiosis

The way that tardigrades have adapted to environmental stress is to reversibly suspend their metabolism and to effectively isolate themselves from the changes. This state is known as cryptobiosis and is a truly death-like state. Cessation of metabolism in other organisms is called death. Metabolism in tardigrades can lower to less than 0.01% of normal, or be entirely undetectable and the water content of the body may decrease to less than 1%. Tardigrades have been revived from this state after more than 100 years and shown signs of life! However, experiments have only shown cryptobiosis under natural conditions of 12 years but frozen they could theoretically survive for ever!"

Since kryptonian physiology is unknown, it can be argued that Superman was either dead or in a cryptic state. Don't assume that Superman dies like a human being if the writer hasn't stated so. In real life, a scientist could examine a water bear and possibly come to the conclusion that it's no longer alive, due to the uncertainty of the tools and so forth. Despite all that, I'm sure if superherohype asked Mark Weid or someone like that if Supes' actually died, the man would say yes.
 
The Question said:
I suppose. Although, Superman's powers are actually somewhat plausible under the right circumstances.
I doubt it would be hard at all to explain an extremely long state of maturity.

That okay?
 
mrokner said:
For all intensive purposes, he was dead. It's likely DC would support that statement. To give pause, look up these creatures called water bears.



http://www.museums.org.za/bio/tardigrades/index.htm



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_bear



"Cryptobiosis



The way that tardigrades have adapted to environmental stress is to reversibly suspend their metabolism and to effectively isolate themselves from the changes. This state is known as cryptobiosis and is a truly death-like state. Cessation of metabolism in other organisms is called death. Metabolism in tardigrades can lower to less than 0.01% of normal, or be entirely undetectable and the water content of the body may decrease to less than 1%. Tardigrades have been revived from this state after more than 100 years and shown signs of life! However, experiments have only shown cryptobiosis under natural conditions of 12 years but frozen they could theoretically survive for ever!"



Since kryptonian physiology is unknown, it can be argued that Superman was either dead or in a cryptic state. Don't assume that Superman dies like a human being if the writer hasn't stated so. In real life, a scientist could examine a water bear and possibly come to the conclusion that it's no longer alive, due to the uncertainty of the tools and so forth. Despite all that, I'm sure if superherohype asked Mark Weid or someone like that if Supes' actually died, the man would say yes.


The thing is, things like rigor mortis and decomposition would not set in during Cryptobiosis. Since Superman was dead for several months, and during those months scientists examined his body on a genetic level, I'd think they would notice that his body showed no signs of post mortem activity. He was dead.

The Leaguer said:
I doubt it would be hard at all to explain an extremely long state of maturity.

I don't. It really doesn't make any sense.

The Leaguer said:
That okay?

Stop doing that! :mad:
 
Superman lifting buildings up by their windows and not shattering them doesn't make sense, but it's happened.

If that's alright.
 
The Leaguer said:
Superman lifting buildings up by their windows and not shattering them doesn't make sense, but it's happened.

True. But then, I've always had a problem with that aswell. Really, if he can grow up as fast as we do, he can grow old as fast as we do.

The Leaguer said:
If that's alright.

Dude. I'm ****ing serious here. Stop doing that. :mad:
 
You can't really pick-and-choose which real-world logic you accept and which you reject. If you accept that Superman can fly and has super-speed, I don't see why it's so hard to accept that maybe his adulthood lasts a really long time.

Is it okay if I don't stop?
 
question, sir, everything you're telling us is just as plausable as anything we say, becasue it hasnt been explained. So you cant say we're wrong, and then give us your opinion.












































































If thats okay with you, sir :(
 
The Leaguer said:
You can't really pick-and-choose which real-world logic you accept and which you reject. If you accept that Superman can fly and has super-speed, I don't see why it's so hard to accept that maybe his adulthood lasts a really long time.

Except, Superman's powers have shown to be at least somewhat plausible. Him simply ceasing to age when he reaches his mid twenties isn't. If he can grow up as fast as we do, then there's no reason why he should suddnly start aging more slowly. If he aged more slowly the entire time, it would make sense. But he doesn't.

The Leaguer said:
Is it okay if I don't stop?

No, it's not. :mad:

Assassin said:
question, sir, everything you're telling us is just as plausable as anything we say, becasue it hasnt been explained. So you cant say we're wrong, and then give us your opinion.

1) Stop calling me "sir."

2) It's not "just as plausible." There's nothing to indicate that his aging process stops when he reaches adulthood, and it really makes no sense whatsoever. It's not an opinion to state that something doesn't make any sense.

The Leaguer said:
If thats okay with you, sir :(

**** you guys! :mad:
 
hey dip****, you quoted the wrong guy
 
The Question said:
Except, Superman's powers have shown to be at least somewhat plausible. Him simply ceasing to age when he reaches his mid twenties isn't. If he can grow up as fast as we do, then there's no reason why he should suddnly start aging more slowly. If he aged more slowly the entire time, it would make sense. But he doesn't.
The keyword is "somewhat."

But how is this for a somewhat plausible explanation: when Supeyman first got here, he had no yellow solar radiation in his body, so he was powerless as a child. However, as he grew up, he soaked up more and more solar radiation, and his powers began to develop, one by one. As Superman grew up, he got more and more powerful as he took in more and more solar radiation.

So who is to say that's where it stops? Who is to say that, not too long ago, Superman finally got enough solar radiation to significantly slow his aging. Who is to say that that effect isn't compounded upon: the slower he ages, the more time he has to take in solar energy, leading to slower aging, leading to more solar energy, and so on, until he reaches the point where he basically no longer ages.

How is that for "somewhat plausible?"

Okay?
 
because i'm respecting you calling you sir and **** and you cant even remember my name, i dont worship you any more, i spit on thy shoes pfft
 
The Leaguer said:
The keyword is "somewhat."

But how is this for a somewhat plausible explanation: when Supeyman first got here, he had no yellow solar radiation in his body, so he was powerless as a child. However, as he grew up, he soaked up more and more solar radiation, and his powers began to develop, one by one. As Superman grew up, he got more and more powerful as he took in more and more solar radiation.

So who is to say that's where it stops? Who is to say that, not too long ago, Superman finally got enough solar radiation to significantly slow his aging. Who is to say that that effect isn't compounded upon: the slower he ages, the more time he has to take in solar energy, leading to slower aging, leading to more solar energy, and so on, until he reaches the point where he basically no longer ages.

How is that for "somewhat plausible?"

I guess that makes a certain amount of sense.

The Leaguer said:

Stop. Doing. That. :mad:

Assassin said:
because i'm respecting you calling you sir and **** and you cant even remember my name, i dont worship you any more, i spit on thy shoes pfft

Dude. What the hell?
 
The Question said:
The thing is, things like rigor mortis and decomposition would not set in during Cryptobiosis. Since Superman was dead for several months, and during those months scientists examined his body on a genetic level, I'd think they would notice that his body showed no signs of post mortem activity. He was dead.



I don't. It really doesn't make any sense.



Stop doing that! :mad:

It's obvious you don't know what cryptobiosis is. I was using it to make a point that
 
That what? Anyway, I would assume that decomposition and rigor mortis wouldn't set in when an animal has entered cryptobiosis, seeing as how that would end up killing them anyway.
 
The Question said:
The thing is, things like rigor mortis and decomposition would not set in during Cryptobiosis. Since Superman was dead for several months, and during those months scientists examined his body on a genetic level, I'd think they would notice that his body showed no signs of post mortem activity. He was dead.



I don't. It really doesn't make any sense.



Stop doing that! :mad:

It's obvious you don't know what cryptobiosis is. I was using it to make a point about how people don't understand Superman's physiology. You're making an assumption that everyone dies in the same manner, and the water bear example shows that just because a creature looks like it's dead doesn't mean it is. The discussion about superman dying showcases kryptonian physiology is still not completely understand. It sounds weird saying that last sentence, because this is all fantasy, but whatever. Nonetheless, the whole discussion is entirely moot because DC would say he died, which I believe, as well.
 
I think what La Pregunta (that one's for you, Trop) is saying is that the scientists that closely investigated Superman's body would find rigor mortis and decomposition in it, indicating that Superman was dead. Were he in something resembling cryptobiosis, they would notice that these features were absent (unless they're morons) and wouldn't have pronounced him dead.

Okay.
 
Basically. Superman is still an organic life form. Should he die, decomposition would begin rather quickly. If scientists found decomposition absent, then they'd probably think he's still alive and just in some sort of coma.
 
hey leeeeger, you bedder tell yo boy he better shut up holms, or imma rip em a new one ay?

****in gringo :p
 

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