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If They Recast or Replace?

Oh please. You people will still watch the films. If not for Iron Man and Cap post recast. For new comers Black Panther, SpiderMan, Captain Marvel, Doctor Strange, Gaurdians, Inhumnas and other future bew characters.
 
Recast, replace, reboot.
If it gets me a different enough take after so long,
it's more variety for me to potentially enjoy. One of the great things about being a TMNT fan.
 
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Either way the interent rage will be delicious. Thats what I really want.
 
Wow... All these supposed hard core Marvel fans were apparently more attached to Chris Evans and RDJ than to the characters of Iron Man and Cap. That's... strange.
 
Right... it makes you wonder.

Eh... Not me. Online is filled with people that like to let us all know how much they dislike something AND how they are somehow in tune with the feelings of the majority. And yet... They still make Transformer films directed by Michael Bay :sly:.

So when people say in places like this that they are going to quite seeing MCU films if they ever replaced Evans, RDJ, Ruffalo ect (seeing especially that we've replaced friggin' Banner HOW MANY TIMES ALREADY, and the popularity of the character INCREASED each time, so... Yeah...) I just add them to the pile of sufferers of Internet Iconoclast Syndrome.
 
Like I said. I could could care less either way. Just wanna see the reaction. :D
 
I think you kind of missed the point on some things. At least for my personal view of things it's not entirely accurate. I will try to explain myself.

Wow... All these supposed hard core Marvel fans were apparently more attached to Chris Evans and RDJ than to the characters of Iron Man and Cap. That's... strange.

I am not really attached to Chris Evans or RDJ. If they leave the MCU, then so be it. In fact, I might even be getting tired of RDJ a bit. However, I don't think that just making Iron Man 4 in 2021 with some new 30-year-old playing Tony Stark would be the best idea. I'd much rather have these characters replaced by other characters. Mostly completely new and unrelated characters (so just have an MCU without Iron Man, that still has Ant-Man, Doctor Strange, Black Panther, etc. and keep introducing new characters), but in some cases legacy characters might work well too (So someone else becoming Cap, like Bucky or Sam, or someone with a similar theme like a member of the Bradley family or America Chavez). I think the MCU is a unique opportunity to show what the Marvel Universe would be like if time actually progressed normally, instead of keeping popular characters that don't age for decades. A large part of the appeal of the MCU for me is that it's a cohesive universe where events influence one another, which would also be undermined by recasting someone younger just to keep the character around for longer.

Online is filled with people that like to let us all know how much they dislike something AND how they are somehow in tune with the feelings of the majority. And yet... They still make Transformer films directed by Michael Bay :sly:.

So when people say in places like this that they are going to quite seeing MCU films if they ever replaced Evans, RDJ, Ruffalo ect (seeing especially that we've replaced friggin' Banner HOW MANY TIMES ALREADY, and the popularity of the character INCREASED each time, so... Yeah...) I just add them to the pile of sufferers of Internet Iconoclast Syndrome.

I'm not the majority and I can't really speak for them, but I think that in some cases the actor is an important part of why people like the character. If it weren't for RDJ's portrayal of Tony, who knows what might've become of the MCU. Had they cast Tom Cruise or Nicholas Cage, would people have loved him as much? I can't possibly know, but I doubt it. Replacing him now could prove even more problematic, as a new actor should live up to the previous one, stay consistent with the character and not come across as someone just doing an impression, all at the same time.

Yes, Banner has been recast 3 times now (Bixby-->Bana-->Norton-->Ruffalo), however you should keep in mind that two out of three times this was for a completely different universe, and thus technically a different (version of a) character (depending on how you look at it. Are 616 Reed Richards and the Maker the same character or not?). The one time it did stay within the same universe, it was after one movie, and a movie that was not hugely succesfull at that. After something like Iron Man the reaction was a lot more positive, and RDJs portrayal was an important reason I believe (based on anecdotal evidence, so I might be wrong here). Plus he's been around for 8 years/5 movies and counting. I honestly would rather have they reshot all scenes with Edward Norton and replaced him with Ruffalo, but that's not going to happen of course. I'll probably still watch the movies if they recast the roles of Tony, Steve, Thor, Bruce, etc., but that doesn't mean I won't dislike it or won't keep thinking about how much better it could've been if they had decided to just move on.

Just my two cents.
 
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Once Holland gets in his scenes with Evans and RDJ. I'll be good.
 
Eh... Not me. Online is filled with people that like to let us all know how much they dislike something AND how they are somehow in tune with the feelings of the majority. And yet... They still make Transformer films directed by Michael Bay :sly:.

So when people say in places like this that they are going to quite seeing MCU films if they ever replaced Evans, RDJ, Ruffalo ect (seeing especially that we've replaced friggin' Banner HOW MANY TIMES ALREADY, and the popularity of the character INCREASED each time, so... Yeah...) I just add them to the pile of sufferers of Internet Iconoclast Syndrome.

You seem to be a pretty big Superman fan given your name and avatar. How would feel if when Henry Cavill leaves the role, that you would never see Kal-El again on-screen for the rest of your life?

That's what is being proposed by some people here.
 
Wow... All these supposed hard core Marvel fans were apparently more attached to Chris Evans and RDJ than to the characters of Iron Man and Cap. That's... strange.

Completely missed the point. There's a lot of MCU fans, myself included that are perfectly fine with Chris Evans and RDJ retiring to stud. My childhood self could not have conceived of $6 billion dollars worth of blockbusters featuring two of my favorite Marvel characters. If they choose to leave they've certainly earned their rest.

What we are saying.....and this appears to be where we lost you.....is that many of us would prefer that another character put on the armor and pick up the shield rather than blow up the continuity of the MCU by casting younger versions of Tony Stark and Steve Rogers. Have the originals mentor their replacement legacy characters, something DC used to do so well. And if the old timers survive Infinity War have them pop up in the future. That kinda worked out okay with Star Wars.
 
Really it all depends on who they cast next. If they cast a great actor like RDj people will eventually get used to and get over it. I mean look at the Ben Affleck casting. People were angry about that but now they're hella hyped.
 
You seem to be a pretty big Superman fan given your name and avatar. How would feel if when Henry Cavill leaves the role, that you would never see Kal-El again on-screen for the rest of your life?

That's what is being proposed by some people here.

By the end of this decade we will have 7 or 8 movies starring Tony Stark as Iron Man. While I would love to see Downey's Stark survive the Infinity War and perhaps take on a mentor role, I'm excited to see another character put on the suit.

I understand that some comic book fans want to see the same characters in the same stories with the same relationships told over and over and over again until the heat death of the universe. New #1 issues! Another reboot! - let's run to the comic book store! But that kind of staid thinking will kill off the golden age of comic book movies.
 
That kinda worked out okay with Star Wars.

In 2018 we are getting a new Han Solo movie with a new actor playing Han.

Plus Star Wars has always been about the larger universe, the wars in the stars, if you will. It is about larger concepts like the Jedi, the Force, the Empire, the Rebellion, etc. The Jedi are a religion, with thousands of members spanning millenia. The Avengers is about a small, very specific group of characters. If you take away those characters, then it isn't The Avengers anymore.
 
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In 2018 we are getting a new Han Solo movie with a new actor playing Han.

While maintaining continuity with the existing Star Wars universe. You've got me excited for a "Tony Stark - the MIT years" film.

I much prefer the idea of legacy characters carrying the mantle of their fallen (or retired) comrades than I am of mysteriously de-aged characters popping into Avengers mansion. That just seems like outdated thinking to me. Your mileage may vary.
 
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In 2018 we are getting a new Han Solo movie with a new actor playing Han.

Plus Star Wars has always been about the larger universe, the wars in the stars, if you will. It is about larger concepts like the Jedi, the Force, the Empire, the Rebellion, etc. The Jedi are a religion, with thousands of members spanning millenia. The Avengers is about a small, very specific group of characters. If you take away those characters, then it isn't The Avengers anymore.

This just isn't true. Kevin Feige and co. have compared the Avengers lineup as a revolving door of characters. At some point, every hero has been part of the Avengers. In fact, this has already been hinted at with the new lineup introduced at the end of AOU. There is nothing very specific about the Avengers lineup.
 
The Avengers is more than just a team. It's an ideal.
 
The Avengers is about a small, very specific group of characters.

Yeah, you're right. Those 11 members the Avengers have had in the movies are pushing it. We've only slightly over 110 of them left. We definitely need to keep rehashing the same things or we'll run out of members of this super exclusive club to use within this millenium, and then we'll have to make movies about Marvel characters other than the Avengers. Can you imagine? :o

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I for one welcome the inevitable New Avengers.
 
The core Avengers have been the same for decades: Iron Man, Captain America, Thor, Wasp, Hawkeye, and the like. The B Team can be cycled in and out, but the core and especially the Big 3 are the rocks Marvel needs to build their foundation on. Those are the Avengers. The entire concept is about the biggest named superheros in the Marvel Universe joining forces to save the world. When the team is the likes of Squirrel Girl, Big Bertha, Mach-5, Sentry, and Speedball, it won't matter if they are called the Avengers, they won't be THE Avengers. Marvel absolutely needs the popular, iconic members to be on the team.
 
Then recast. You guys have to choose one. The actors are gonna get old. But at the same time you don't wanna see the iconic members leave. What do you want? Senior citizen Avengers?
 
Then recast. You guys have to choose one. The actors are gonna get old. But at the same time you don't wanna see the iconic members leave. What do you want? Senior citizen Avengers?

Recasting is the only real choice.
 
The core Avengers have been the same for decades: Iron Man, Captain America, Thor, Wasp, Hawkeye, and the like. The B Team can be cycled in and out, but the core and especially the Big 3 are the rocks Marvel needs to build their foundation on. Those are the Avengers. The entire concept is about the biggest named superheros in the Marvel Universe joining forces to save the world. When the team is the likes of Squirrel Girl, Big Bertha, Mach-5, Sentry, and Speedball, it won't matter if they are called the Avengers, they won't be THE Avengers. Marvel absolutely needs the popular, iconic members to be on the team.

The most popular members of the movie Avengers are iconic to filmgoers because Marvel (and Whedon) made them iconic to filmgoers. Hulk is now a key part of the Avengers lineup - who'd a thunk it?

Longtime comicbook readers may protest, but Feige and company have a crapload of popular characters they can mix and match to make up an Avengers lineup. They have proven that they can elevate characters from the B and C list to stars, and I have no reason to suspect they won't keep doing it.
 

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