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  1. sidkumar

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    I don't know if other people have made similar threads but I'm too pissed off to care right now.So if anyone wants to vent their frustrations about this film please go ahead.

    My thoughts:

    I thought the movie sucked period. Kelsey's Beast was the only saving grace but we hardly saw much of him either.

    What pissed me off the most was the Hollywood writer mentality that thinks:

    hmmmthis storyline really shouldn't involve storm and wolverine that much, SO, let's kill off characters so that hugh Jackman and Halle berry take centre stage! And while we're at it let's have shots of a command room with the president and other military morons just standing around and spewing a bunch of really bad one-liners because no awful action movie is complete without one.

    I have the same feeling about this film as I did the Matrix Reloaded.

    There was a thread on the Jay Leno clip and I thought it had the production quality of a film made in the 80's. However other members assured me that it wasn't the final version and that more editing and post-production needed to be done and I gave them the benefit of the doubt.

    STUPID ME.
    The clip is exactly the same!!!

    I could go on and on but I think I'll shut up now and hear what others have to say.
     
  2. phoenix_force

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    i hate it that jean dies at the end!
     
  3. Downhere

    Downhere Jeremiah 33:3

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    I hate that Cyke dies in this one!
     
  4. sidkumar

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    Every time the film dealt with the phoenix storyline all I could think was why is cyke dead? why isn't he a part of this. Even the x-men forming into a team cyke should have been the one taking control.
     
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    Please do. How was the Pheonix? Storm? Wolverin?
     
  6. EmmaFrostRules

    EmmaFrostRules Waiting for May 26th...

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    dude shut up and stop being negative. people haven seen it yet, and they dont want to go in with a bias attitude, so please. just dont post your negative thoughts just yet
     
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    I HATE IT WHEN PSYLOCK DIED!!!
     
  8. Sunstar

    Sunstar Child of Sun and Star

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    Yes, her character seemed so unnecessary! The same goes for Rogue
    getting 10 min screentime and taking the cure
    !
     
  9. EmmaFrostRules

    EmmaFrostRules Waiting for May 26th...

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    i think we will see a different theatrical version :D
     
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    rogue took the cure but we are not sure if the cure is permanent look at magneto? maybe the cure can supress your mutant power for some time but it will wear off i'd say 2- 3 years at least. lol ;)
     
  11. sidkumar

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    As you've seen in the trailer Phoenix sides with Magneto. But she does nothing. the x-men go through most of the film saying "My GOD she's joined forces with magneto!!! she has to be stopped!!!!"But all she does is stand there while the rest of the brotherhood do the fighting. Sure she goes berserk at the end but her character has to tie into the rest of the film. It's just bad storytelling.

    There is a really dark backstory to the phoenix origin involving Xavier, but that's never explored.There's a great argument between logan and Xavier and you think they're building up to some cool dark past of Xavier. But ten minutes later Jean turns him to dust.

    Storm is pushed up to be the responsible leader of the x-men instead of other more obvious deserving characters(I don't care if he was busy shooting superman) which is fine i guess- she wasn't the worst thing in the film ( the one good thing Ratner pulled off :D ).

    Wolverine no longer has inner conflict, that was the point of x2, I get that. But now he's a bit boring without it. There's a Wolverine battlewith spyke which is great but sadly doesn't match up to the lady deathstrike, sabretooth or even Mystique fights. Rogue was wasted in the film so there was even less of Logan's relationship with her.
     
  12. sidkumar

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    I think you're looking for the Non-spoiler message board.

    Anyway, I'll white out the spoilers in my messages from now and if you DO have good things to say about the movie after you see it I'd love to hear them.
     
  13. Maze

    Maze Proud AquaMomoa inventor

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    i'll say your comments are valid , and i can understand your frustrations as those elements are not really good.

    but the movies has quality to it : i mean,There are some exciting stuff on the action side ( the convoy scene, Jean power ) Famke is extraordinary as Jean ,really thrilling touching (and the Xavier ambiguous subplot is really interesting..too bad it is isn't very develloped but still) ..there are stuff with young angel that are really touching (and in a slightly less interesting manner ) with Adult angel.really cool and funny stuff with mystique,
    Page is just exciting as Kitty , displaying a lot of intelligence and energy , just fun to watch..

    I think(and i may be wrong) that those (valid again) complaints that you gave just killed your vision of the movie , and you couldn't appreciate the good side.
     
  14. sidkumar

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    That's not the point. If Magneto gets his powers by the next film, great, superb. I'm not pissed about the next film. I'm pissed about this film. When I heard about the cure storyline I thought, "Great, this film is going to have depth." Instead we have two pointless plotlines where rogue takes the cure and angel doesn't. It's bad enough having Rogue and not using her well, but creating Angel and doing nothing with him either?

    As far as the next film goes the folks at Fox say it most likely isn't going to happen they have a trilogy and they're going to leave it at that. And even with wishful thinking Fox isn't going to consider it until after the Magneto and wolverine spin-offs are done.
     
  15. Maze

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    Very valid complain.

    the movie has indeed not a lot of depht..but again has a lot of other quality ( and that is somebody who would have loved to see the movie more develloped that is telling that ;) )
     
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    I agree that the convoy scene rocked and the Phoenix character design was awesome too. Famke was good as the phoenix in whatever she did.

    Maybe you're right. Maybe when I see the film again on friday I'll realise that I overreacted.

    Still, It should have been a better film.

    Singer, after all this crap you put us through Superman had better be good!
     
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    sidkumar, I agree with you in every point! Well, not in Beast. I think he kinda sucked. Angel was completely wasted. Cure plot was useless.
     
  18. FieryBalrog

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    So basically we're going down the same exact pathway that every other big comic/fantasy/sci-fi fan franchise goes down in terms of movies: starts off excellent, gradually degenerates until it ends up as self-parody or complete catastrophe (or usually both). Superman, Batman, Star Trek, Star Wars... all have travelled down this well-worn path.

    Since this movie probably isnt going to bomb I'm anticipating an X4 in 4-5 years, maybe called X-men: Blood of Apocalypse or something equally ******ed, and that movie will probably be a total disgrace, thus completeing the cycle... and then a reboot in another 15-20 years. Looking forward to X-men: Origins in 2025 when I hit my mid-life crisis.
     
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    me too. maybe Fox will give marvel the xmen rights, and then we'll have a film not made by hacks and yes men.

    With a Storm that actually seems like an Warrior from Africa

    An Iceman that's actually a jokester

    A Rogue whos not a shy little girl who does nothing.

    A Wolverine who's not highly romanticized

    A Cyclops who dosent play second fiddle

    And most of all, a movie more about a TEAM of mutants, not wolverine.
     
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    I'm hoping that James Marsden will be back as Cyclops, reboot or not!

    Jimmy
    Patrick Stewart

    That's it.

    Everyone else should be recast.

    Get a short hairy old guy for Logan. A younger natural redhead for Jean. An elegant european black woman for Storm. And a hot southern girl for Rogue. And finally bring in Gambit!

    And a new Villain. Magneto's been done, to perfection, by McKellan.
     
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    And with that, I implore people with a vision of a faithful x-franchise to look at this thread at X-World:

    http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?t=232429

    But, if you accept the franchise we're getting now, please, dont come to the thread to start trouble. The thread is for people who want faithful X movies.
     
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    You can blame Singer for that.

    He made Storm look weak, Iceman serious, Rogue a 'shy girl' etc. Ratner just followed what was already laid down.

    But I do agree with you. I'd like a movie in the future with the characters as they are in the comics. :)
     
  23. Rayne

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    Oh, God, no. McKellan, despite being a brilliant actor and having the spirit of Magneto, is nowhere near as physically imposing or threatening as Magneto SHOULD have been. Choose an actor in his late 40's to mid 50's that doesn't look like he's late for his prostate exam. Singer & Rothman mucked this up from the beginning, from all the casting (aside from Cyke, Jean, and Xavier) to the costumes and chosen plots. I will one day very much enjoy a reboot.
     
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    Magneto is a Holocaust survivor. Unless the film takes place in the 60s, he can't logically be a 40 year-old man.
     
  25. FieryBalrog

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    He's a mutant. They could explain he ages slowly. Its not a big deal.
     
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