Iron Fist now has a director!

[chiefchirpa]

Bottom line is talented acting trumps martial artist ability. Any actor can learn choreographed fighting. Jason Statham knew nothing of martial arts before he was an actor and he looks like an expert on camera

Talented acting wouldn't work well if the actor is not comfortable with heavy action scenes. You don't need an oscar caliber actors, just a regular actor who's comfortable and believable enough with action scenes.

That's why I pick Jason Statham, not Ray Park.

 

[Lord Doom]

Iron Fist - Ray Park.
Misty Knight - Gabrielle Union.
Shang-Chi - Tony Jaa.
Fu Manchu - Christopher Lee.
The Master - Chow-Yun Fat.
K'um L'um - Voice of Lawrence Fishburne.

Christopher Lee?

 

[protocida]

Yeah. Fu-Manchu is a old man, right? It could be a great catch.

 

[cerealkiller182]

Talented acting wouldn't work well if the actor is not comfortable with heavy action scenes. You don't need an oscar caliber actors, just a regular actor who's comfortable and believable enough with action scenes.

That's why I pick Jason Statham, not Ray Park.

Action scenes dont usually call for acting. Its in between that i care about. And i think Jason Statham is too old and doesnt have the right look for Rand. Hes just badass.

 

[protocida]

Agreed. I Prefer Ray Park.

 

[cerealkiller182]

No ray park. Hes not an actor, hes a fighter

 

[protocida]

But he's also a actor.

 

[cerealkiller182]

nope

 

[protocida]

If you say so!

 

[cerealkiller182]

If you say so!

Your welcome to prove me wrong. Maybe it was the riveting performance as Toad in the X-Men. Or was it when he wore make-up in Star Wars. The guys a stand in. Hes welcome to do stunts and choreography, but hes no leading man material

 

[protocida]

How can YOU know? He never saw him act!

 

[cerealkiller182]

How can YOU know? He never saw him act!

Have you?


You want to cast Ray Park because he can do a jump kick. Thats the wrong reason tocast someone.

 

[protocida]

I Cast him because HE LOOKS like the part!

 

[cerealkiller182]

I Cast him because HE LOOKS like the part!

Thats even worse. Just like all the people who cast Triple H as Thor just because he is big and has long blonde hair.

 

[Spade]

No Statham, unless we want to see this movie burst into flames from the ferocity of its own suckitude.

 

[deathshead2]

How can YOU know? He never saw him act!

Watch Ballistic: Ecks vs. Sever then you'll know why ray Park is a bad actor.

 

[cerealkiller182]

No Statham, unless we want to see this movie burst into flames from the ferocity of its own suckitude.

Definitely not as Iron Fist, but I could possibly see him as Steel Serpent, maybe.

 

[Bubonic]

I dislike the "but he looks the part" line of defence.
As cerealkiller182 pointed out, that can end up disastrously.
Great acting is key, and a suitable look... Doesn't have to look exactly.

Should at least have the basic form and demeanor of the character, a scrawny Bruce Banner and Peter Parker make sense.

A tall Wolvie, not so much.

 

[EternalMaster]

Iron Fist mask is a half face mask.

In real life, it doesn't mask the identity of the user because you can comparably detect anyone's chin and mouth. So unless the action is blurred or the character is always cinematicallty shot from the behind, you know who's doing the part in any action scenes.

Batman's mask only covers half his face. In the orginal Batman movies, I never caught when a stuntman stepped in for the actors playing Batman.

Plus (as I mentioned earlier), the lower half of the face could be CGI'd SLIGHTLY just to help really nail things home that the stuntman is the actor.

Looks at Star Wars: Episode II. Christopher Lee played Count Dooku for real when he was doing non-action scenes and for close-up shots during action scenes where he didn't need to move much.

For the real battles, a stuntman of comparable size was used, and then Lucas had Lee's face CGIed onto the stuntman.

Now if you look REALLY CLOSE, you can tell that the face is CGIed on. But the first time I watched the movie, I couldn't tell (and no one complained about it that I know of, so I guess few people could tell at all).

For Iron Fist wearing a mask, a bare minimum CGI on the bottom half of the face would be needed. And considering most really intense fight scenes wouldn't involve close-ups of the actor's face, the stuntman would work fine. If you want a few close-ups thrown in, movie magic time: just shoot a few scenes of close-ups using the real actor and then edit them into the fight.

BOOM. Done. Handled. Good.

 

[cerealkiller182]

A tall Wolvie, not so much.

.......but it worked!t:

 

[chiefchirpa]

Batman's mask only covers half his face. In the orginal Batman movies, I never caught when a stuntman stepped in for the actors playing Batman.

Plus (as I mentioned earlier), the lower half of the face could be CGI'd SLIGHTLY just to help really nail things home that the stuntman is the actor.

Looks at Star Wars: Episode II. Christopher Lee played Count Dooku for real when he was doing non-action scenes and for close-up shots during action scenes where he didn't need to move much.

For the real battles, a stuntman of comparable size was used, and then Lucas had Lee's face CGIed onto the stuntman.

Now if you look REALLY CLOSE, you can tell that the face is CGIed on. But the first time I watched the movie, I couldn't tell (and no one complained about it that I know of, so I guess few people could tell at all).

For Iron Fist wearing a mask, a bare minimum CGI on the bottom half of the face would be needed. And considering most really intense fight scenes wouldn't involve close-ups of the actor's face, the stuntman would work fine. If you want a few close-ups thrown in, movie magic time: just shoot a few scenes of close-ups using the real actor and then edit them into the fight.

BOOM. Done. Handled. Good.

Batman face mask doesn't show the lower part of the hair and full chin like Iron Fist. Iron Fist mask is just a nose covering bandana. And then, all the old Batman movies show only stiff fight scenes. Batman Begins fight scene is just a shakey blur and more stiff smacks. I expect Iron Fist action scenes should be 10x more dynamic than the Batman fight scenes and more closely resembled a regal Asian style martial arts.

If Marvel can pick someone that's proficient in action scenes, that's good. Saves money from doing needless CGI.

 

[protocida]

I'm going to stay watching.

 

[cerealkiller182]

People without face masks of any kind have had stunt doubles to great effect.

And actors have been taught choreography to great effect. Case in point: Sean Faris from Never Back Down looks pretty good in the fight scenes. Granted I have never seen him act and dont plan to see the movie, Im basing this solely on the trailer