Iron Man Iron Man BO thread

[the GRIN Reaper]

I wasn't aware that Begins made more money than Iron Man.

It didn't. But Batman Begins made profit while having to battle the effects of Batman and Robin. That alone is quite an accomplishment. And we had all for years prior to TDK had heard critics lofty opinions of the movie, and how well it did on DVD, and how it eventually caught on with the general public. It didn't make more money, in a year where the box office was it its weakest, but its definetely the better movie.

 

[Chewy]

It didn't. But Batman Begins made profit while having to battle the effects of Batman and Robin. That alone is quite an accomplishment. And we had all for years prior to TDK had heard critics lofty opinions of the movie, and how well it did on DVD, and how it eventually caught on with the general public. It didn't make more money, in a year where the box office was it its weakest, but its definetely the better movie.

It didn't make more money, therefore to claim that it is a "better movie" based on box office is ridiculous.

And it is not "definitely" the better movie, it was a better movie in your opinion. In my opinion, it was a slightly weaker movie.

 

[the GRIN Reaper]

It didn't make more money, therefore to claim that it is a "better movie" based on box office is ridiculous.

I wasn't claiming BEGINS was a better movie based off it's box office.

 

[Spider-Vader]

Which might show how you don't really understand what quality movie making is ... the 3rd act of BEGINS fell into regular comic book action cliched genre. And Iron Man's 3rd act is even worse.

By best, I meant my favorite. In terms of quality the first parts of BB & IM were very good.

 

[Kirk Langstrom]

It didn't. But Batman Begins made profit while having to battle the effects of Batman and Robin. That alone is quite an accomplishment.

No, making a successful movie with a character that virtually NO ONE had ever even HEARD of and making said character into a household name practically overnight is an accomplishment.


Making a successful movie with a character who has nearly 7 decades of history, several prior movies, toons, and tv shows, is just business as usual.

 

[scatterax]

No, making a successful movie with a character that virtually NO ONE had ever even HEARD of and making said character into a household name practically overnight is an accomplishment.


Making a successful movie with a character who has nearly 7 decades of history, several prior movies, toons, and tv shows, is just business as usual.

my thoughts exactly.

 

[the GRIN Reaper]

No, making a successful movie with a character that virtually NO ONE had ever even HEARD of and making said character into a household name practically overnight is an accomplishment.

Iron Man wasn't a "never heard of" character. Not even close. And Robert Downey Jr. isn't a "never heard of" actor.

Something like "Blade" is a never heard of character.

Batman Begins battling the effects of Batman and Robin, and being the 5/6th movie in said franchise while still being as successful as it was is a much bigger accomplishment. By far. It's like starting in the negative and pulling out all the way into the positive. With noticeable less enthusiasm for it at the start being as so many Batman movies had been released, bad year at the box office, etc.

Iron Man wasn't weighed down by anything. And it wasn't facing anything in its box office run till weeks later. It had all the chance in the world to be successful.

Batman Begins has ALOT of weight on it's shoulders and still did very well. And it's sequel? Without all that weight ... just look at what that did.

"So get back to me when you want to take things alittle more SERRRIOUSLY."

 

[Kirk Langstrom]

Iron Man wasn't a "never heard of" character. Not even close. And Robert Downey Jr. isn't a "never heard of" actor.

Something like "Blade" is a never heard of character.

Batman Begins battling the effects of Batman and Robin, and being the 5/6th movie in said franchise while still being as successful as it was is a much bigger accomplishment. By far. It's like starting in the negative and pulling out all the way into the positive. With noticeable less enthusiasm for it at the start being as so many Batman movies had been released, bad year at the box office, etc.

Iron Man wasn't weighed down by anything. And it wasn't facing anything in its box office run till weeks later. It had all the chance in the world to be successful.

Batman Begins has ALOT of weight on it's shoulders and still did very well. And it's sequel? Without all that weight ... just look at what that did.

"So get back to me when you want to take things alittle more SERRRIOUSLY."

Oh, please.

Let me give you an example: My grandparents know who Batman is, yet they had never even heard of Iron Man before last May. (incidentally, they enjoyed IM way better than TDK)...a Batman movie is GOING to be successful, provided it caters to what the fans want, and it is done intelligently enough and marketed strategically enough to appeal to the mainstream audience...

Iron Man had no such benefits.

To take a movie featuring a little-known comic character and LITERALLY re-ignite a movie genre that fans and critics alike were starting to perform "Last Rites" for is CLEARLY the greater accomplishment than a movie featuring a cultural icon with a 7 decade headstart.

 

[scatterax]

Oh, please.

Let me give you an example: My grandparents know who Batman is, yet they had never even heard of Iron Man before last May. (incidentally, they enjoyed IM way better than TDK)...a Batman movie is GOING to be successful, provided it caters to what the fans want, and it is done intelligently enough and marketed strategically enough to appeal to the mainstream audience...

Iron Man had no such benefits.

To take a movie featuring a little-known comic character and LITERALLY re-ignite a movie genre that fans and critics alike were starting to perform "Last Rites" for is CLEARLY the greater accomplishment than a movie featuring a cultural icon with a 7 decade headstart.

listen to this guy

 

[the GRIN Reaper]

No, really shouldn't.

 

[scatterax]

i dissagree

 

[Spider-Vader]

IM was basically unknown outside of comic fandom.
Everyone knows who BM is.

The fact that IM made over 300 mil domestic & over 500 WW is a fantastic. TDK becoming second domestic movie ever, is also fantastic but who didn't see that movie grossing over (or about) 300 mil?

 

[Radio_Clash]

Saw the first Iron Man Advert on Japanese channel TV Asahi ahead of the Super Hero Time block of shows (Engine Sentai Go-Onger, Kamen Rider Kiva) Perfect marketing right there. I have a feeling this will go over well in Japan.

 

[Spider-Vader]

Guy who looks like a robot. Don't they like that stuff over there?

 

[TheVileOne]

Iron Man as a movie franchise had very little baggage going in. Not like Batman Begins. And not like The Incredible Hulk.

 

[StylishHokie21]

Iron Man as a movie franchise had very little baggage going in. Not like Batman Begins. And not like The Incredible Hulk.

Agreed.

 

[Heretic]

Welp, Iron Man is down to about 20 theaters...but is still just over a million away from besting Transformers. If only Marvel had the will/ability to give it a last second jolt. Or if only thered been an Imax release...

 

[Spider Edge]

I think for what it did, elevating a "second" or "third" tier character ( outside of the comic fan world, of course ) to mega-hit status in a movie well-liked by pretty much everybody, Iron Man did a masterful job!!

Can't wait for the sequels.............and the dvd ( which comes out in a few weeks right? )........t:

 

[scatterax]

the 30th, I believe.

 

[I Am The Knight]

I can't believe Speed Racer is coming out before this. Well, maybe I can.

 

[scatterax]

I can't believe Speed Racer is coming out before this. Well, maybe I can.

I can. I'm sure it left the theaters long b4 iron man.

 

[I Am The Knight]

You're probably right about that.

 

[TheVileOne]

Iron Man ended up getting a good 4 and a half months or so in US theatres and $318 million.

$320 million would've been nice just for bragging rights over Don Murphy. But I'm still amazed and very happy the movie got to $300 million.

Now here's to $600 million and beyond after the Japanese release.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I still find it funny how underwhelmingly TDK did in Japan considering how well it did everywhere else. I think that Iron Man has a good chance of outgrossing it there.

 

[TheVileOne]

I'm very surprised as well.

Dark Knight was just too dark and intense for Japan, pretty weird.

I think Iron Man will do much better since it's slightly lighter fare and it's got mecha-tech stuff in it. They will love that. Favreau used a lot of manga and anime to help get him in the mood for the movie.