Iron Man ILM to Forge Iron Man

[Hunter Rider]

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=20365

Source: The Hollywood Reporter
May 14, 2007


Industrial Light & Magic will be the principal visual effects house on Marvel Studios' Iron Man, according to The Hollywood Reporter.

ILM sister company Skywalker Sound will handle sound design and mixing on the film and Deluxe's DI business Efilm, which opened a DI suite at Skywalker Ranch last year, will do the film's color timing and mastering.

Iron Man is directed by Jon Favreau with John Nelson as visual effects supervisor.

Visual effects supervisor Ben Snow is heading up the ILM team with animation supervisor Hal Hickel. Wayne Billheimer is producing for ILM, with Gretchen Libby as ILM's executive producer on the project. Chris Boyes will be the film's sound design and lead re-recording mixer.

Nelson won an Oscar for Gladiator. Snow served as a VFX supervisor on Star Wars: Episode II Attack of the Clones. Hickel earned an Academy Award this year for Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest. Boyes is a four-time Oscar winner for "Dead Man's Chest," The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King, Pearl Harbor and Titanic.

Perfect final piece of the puzzle

 

[bosef982]

This movie, I think, will be a sleeper that catches everyone off-guard.

Other boards are in a whirlwind over Singer's Superman sequel, X4's feasibility, Spider-Man 3's quality, and cut-smiles over in the Dark Knight threads.

So caught up, I think everyone, including the public, just won't see Iron Man coming and...when it does...will definitely take notice.

 

[Soulgem]

x4? dear god i thought x3 killed that franchise

but IM on the other hand is looking better and better for every news we get.

 

[Gold Samurai]

well at least george lucas won't bash ironman then for being silly :P

 

[AssMan]

well at least george lucas won't bash ironman then for being silly :P

Im sure George will find someway to bash Iron Man

 

[Warhammer]

This makes me very happy.
ILM is arguably the biggest name in CGI, so my favorite Marvel superhero will shine with greatness come May 2008.

 

[Cinemaman]

ILM? Thank God they didn't decide to go with Sony Imageworks

 

[Cinemaman]

Im sure George will find someway to bash Iron Man

He better look at his Prequels. Anyway, in 70s-80s he was a very good filmmaker/producer, but now he has only ILM as the positive side of his career (+ $100m to University of Southern California)

 

[Mr. Socko]

Good news.

Im sure George will find someway to bash Iron Man

George Lucas will never bash a film his company worked on. Remember, he still calls Howard The Duck a work of art because it was done by ILM and LFL.

 

[Qwerty©]

ILM? Thank God they didn't decide to go with Sony Imageworks

Also known as the laziest CGI company in the world.

 

[TheBeastWithin]

The good news just keeps coming.

 

[terry78]

Now we just have to make sure ILM does Davy Jones quality work and not Son of the Mask quality work.

 

[dark_b]

Im sure George will find someway to bash Iron Man

since when is lucas a guy who bashes everything?

 

[dark_b]

Now we just have to make sure ILM does Davy Jones quality work and not Son of the Mask quality work.

its all about:
-budget
-director
-style

 

[Cinemaman]

since when is lucas a guy who bashes everything?

He based Spidey 3 and two other summer blockbusters of past years as I remember.

 

[Mysterio]

x4? dear god i thought x3 killed that franchise

but IM on the other hand is looking better and better for every news we get.

X3 was good and Superman Returns sucked. i don't think Singer does comic book movies very well, although X2 was a lot better than the first movie. at least X3/Rattner understood the attraction: people want to see these superheroes fight and use their powers. we certainly got that in spades in X3. no one wants to see Storm fly a jet; they want to see her fly on her own and be a badass.

take note JF!

 

[Qwerty©]

X3 was good and Superman Returns sucked. i don't think Singer does comic book movies very well, although X2 was a lot better than the first movie. at least X3/Rattner understood the attraction: people want to see these superheroes fight and use their powers. we certainly got that in spades in X3. no one wants to see Storm fly a jet; they want to see her fly on her own and be a badass.

They also want to see a good story that doesn't treat them like morons.

SR is superior to X3 in every way.

Why are you even bringing this up?

 

[Octoberist]

as long it's not sony imageworks, i'm fine with ILM.

I swear, Imageworks is probably the weakest of the bunch (ILM, WETA, Rhythm & Hues).

 

[BMM]

X3 was good and Superman Returns sucked. i don't think Singer does comic book movies very well, although X2 was a lot better than the first movie. at least X3/Rattner understood the attraction: people want to see these superheroes fight and use their powers. we certainly got that in spades in X3. no one wants to see Storm fly a jet; they want to see her fly on her own and be a badass.

take note JF!

... and despite all of that, Storm's power displays are still more powerful and varied in the previous movies.

Take not JF: When a character like Iron Man has an arsenal of weapons at his disposal, it's best to use more than one... as opposed to Storm's tired lightning in The Last Stand.

Anyway, enough about X-Men. It's good to hear that ILM will be involved. Thus far, this movie looks to be taking all the right steps and hopefully it will look great on the big screen.

 

[odiin]

Well at least now we know for sure that Iron man armor photo was real and not CG, because if it was CG it would have looked more real...

 

[huzzah]

X3 was good and Superman Returns sucked. i don't think Singer does comic book movies very well, although X2 was a lot better than the first movie. at least X3/Rattner understood the attraction: people want to see these superheroes fight and use their powers. we certainly got that in spades in X3. no one wants to see Storm fly a jet; they want to see her fly on her own and be a badass.

take note JF!

Off topic but I agree with everything said here.

And I'm sure ILM will do a good job with the special effects for Iron Man.

 

[dark_b]

Well at least now we know for sure that Iron man armor photo was real and not CG, because if it was CG it would have looked more real...

that makes no sense.

 

[dark_b]

as long it's not sony imageworks, i'm fine with ILM.

I swear, Imageworks is probably the weakest of the bunch (ILM, WETA, Rhythm & Hues).

and yet sony is working almost on every comic movie
sony down.

 

[superkong 500]

Great news ILM the oldest most experienced ones in the biz. I still hope Jon goes with practical(real suit) as much as possible but ILM great.

Look at transformers so that gives us an idea as how they can handle a mechanical looking character. and please stop bashing sony imageworks because of spidey, they made SR effects and even if alot of people don't like the movie the effects were pretty good. So I think it depends more on the directors eye, and Raimi really doesn't have IMO and eye for good FX. Sony imageworks had their hands on both spiderman and SR and how is it that spiderman still has the cartoon look going on(although spidey 3 did have improvements to be fair) and SR for the most part looked real.
Anyway this is great news IM will look awesome no doubt.

 

[Retroman]

From Studio Daily:

High-Flying Teamwork on Iron Man

How Animators at ILM Helped Call the Shots
By Barbara Robertson
May 8, 2008 Source: Film & Video Post your comments below


When Iron Man blasted onto movie theater screens last week, director Jon Favreau's cool hands guided critically lauded performances by actor Robert Downey Jr., Gwyneth Paltrow as his secretary, "Pepper" Potts, Terrence Howard as buddy Jim Rhodes, and Jeff Bridges as Obadiah Stane through a slick script. But Iron Man would have been nothing without his full metal suit. In the beginning, Favreau was not convinced that, except for the necessary flying shots, Iron Man could be digital. In fact, a major tenet of the production was keeping things real—from the suit to the cameras. By the end of post-production, however, animators at ILM were helping to design shots, including tweaking the camera. “Production drove the bus,” says Academy Award-winning VFX supervisor John Nelson, “but everybody was involved. Jon [Favreau] and I both believe the best idea is going to win, wherever it comes from. We hired people because we thought they were good. We didn’t just want to tell them what to do.”

Nelson supervised the supercharged visual-effects work by four studios on the digital side: Pixel Liberation Front (PLF), Industrial Light & Magic, The Orphanage, and The Embassy. PLF handled previs. ILM took on the bulk of the VFX shots and the most difficult, including costuming Downey Jr. with digital metal parts, creating the two streamlined Iron Man suits, Stane's Iron Monger suit, F22s for an aerial dogfight with Iron Man, and building digital versions of Stark’s playboy mansion and his industrial complex. The Orphanage shot cluster missiles into a mountain, helped Tony Stark test his repulsor technology (RT for short) in his workshop for the first time, created Iron Man’s heads-up display, and contributed shots during a rescue sequence. The Embassy built Iron Man’s first suit, the Mark I. In addition, Lola applied digital makeup, Gentle Giant studios provided motion-capture services, and the Stan Winston Studio built practical suits, four in all: the Mark I, II and III, plus the top half of the huge, clunky but powerful, Iron Monger suit.

Adding New Scenes After the Shoot Wraps
Nelson cites the “suit-up” sequence as an example of how much the VFX team was encouraged to collaborate in a creative way. The scene takes place when Stark has perfected the third and final version of his Iron Man suit, the red and gold Mark III. Ben Snow, visual effects supervisor at ILM, explains: “This was a sequence we pretty much created out of thin air. Jon Favreau got very excited about the shot with all the bits moving on the silver suit and felt like people would like a glimpse of what it was like underneath.”

The “silver suit” was the Mark II, the suit Stark builds at home after his escape from the terrorists. To create it, ILM had to match the brushed metal practical suit built by Winston Studio, which was a major technical challenge. The miniscule grooves and imperfections in the brushed metal surface reflected light in such varying ways that even the shaders created for Transformers could not duplicate the look of the practical suit. ILM’s Doug Smythe and Pat Myers developed a texture-map-controlled shader that, using thousands of lines of RenderMan shader code, modulated localized parameters of basic shader functions to imitate the complex reflections caused by the brushed metal of the silver suit and, later, the red and gold Mark III.

Once ILM perfected the match, the resulting digital suits had several advantages over the practical beyond allowing Stark to fly. The practical suit, although beautiful, didn’t have moving parts—the gadgets and weapons hidden inside slick, sliding surfaces. It couldn’t have the trim waist of a superhero and still fit an actor inside. And it was uncomfortable for the actors to wear.

“We started by designing our suit like the practical suit because we knew we’d have to intercut, but Jon [Favreau] asked us to take it further,” says Hal Hickel, ILM’s animation supervisor. “Within reason, we were not bound by the compromises of fitting a practical suit on a human. So, our design process happened after Stan’s [Winston] design process. Once that was approved, we added all the gadgets, the flying surfaces and the weapons.”

And that led to Favreau wanting to show how it all worked. “He wanted to add the suit-up sequence after principal photography,” Nelson says. “It was a classic example of 'how are we going to make this?'”


"What Can You Come Up With?"
Nelson found a 360-degree Steadicam plate shot in Stark’s workshop that he and Kent Seki at PLF used to pick camera angles, and he worked with storybook artist Philip Keller on designs. “We gave those to ILM and they ran with it,” Nelson says. “It was probably half to two-thirds designed.”

At ILM, modeling supervisor Bruce Holcomb and modeler Russell Paul brainstormed with Snow and art director Aaron McBride to design the machines and the sequence. “Jon liked part of the animatic, but he wanted something different,” says Snow. “He asked, ‘What can you come up with?’” McBride created concept art, Holcomb and Paul created the under-layer of armor for Stark and the complicated robotic arms, and Hickel worked with creature technical director Keiji Yamaguchi, who rigged and animated the machines. “He’s our resident creature genius guy with a great affinity for mechanical motion,” says Hickel.

In the sequence, we see Downey Jr. looking around his workshop as the huge robotic arms apply the heavy-metal parts piece by piece to his body. To put the shot together, ILM’s digimatte artist Richard Bluff created a virtual background from high-resolution stills the studio had taken in the workshop during a sequence when Downey Jr. as Stark learns how to fly. To have something onto which they could place the suit parts, the studio shot a stand-in in a wetsuit on a blue-screen stage.

“We basically created the surrounds out of stills projected onto geometry,” says Snow. “Then we created all the machines, the suit, everything else in CG, and used some bluescreen shots of Robert [Downey Jr.]. It’s now possible, when a filmmaker decides to add more shots, to accommodate that, and to cut from the real set to the virtual set. And, it was tremendous fun to do that.”

For this shot, ILM could use the stand in. For shots with Downey Jr. fully enclosed in the suit, the studio often relied on motion capture data of a performer brought into ILM’s mocap stage. And, when it became obvious that no one could tell the real from the digital, for shots in which Stark tests parts of the suit, and often when we see the suited Iron Man without his helmet, Downey Jr. often shed some of the cumbersome practical shell knowing ILM could add digital armor later. For those shots, Downey Jr. wore red iMocap “pajamas.”

ILM had developed iMocap, a process that captures data from actors on set during principal photography, for Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man’s Chest. For Iron Man, the studio tweaked the algorithms to provide enough accuracy for precise digital costuming. “We had to have a really tight track of his body movement so the suit looked like it was on him,” says Hickel. The studio points proudly, for example, to the shot in which Stark is first learning to fly. In that shot, one of his gauntlets is real and the other is CG.

When Stark actually flies, though, the suit is fully CG and animated entirely with keyframe animation, based on reference material provided by Nelson, who had Giant Studios motion-capture sky divers in a wind tunnel. “We tethered them because Iron Man’s thrust has to come from his feet,” Nelson says.


Taking to the Sky
For shots when Iron Man has an aerial dogfight with two F22s, Nelson also provided ILM with reference, this time shooting a MIG and an F85 from a Lear Jet to provide previs choreography. Sometimes the F85 and MIG represented the F22s, sometimes one of the jets represented Iron Man.

“The jets not only gave us something to photograph, we had real air-to-air photography done by a cameraman with realism and lag, dust flying by the lens, clouds going by, condensation,” Nelson says. “And the specular component of how the light reacted to the metal was almost like lighting-ball reference.” In addition, Snow helicoptered up to the top of a mountain in a desert to shoot HDRI tile sets that ILM used as environments to light the suit.

The previs group then cut footage of the aerial choreography together and slotted in rough animations of Iron Man to create an animatic for ILM. “Other clients might have said, ‘Here it is. This is the sequence. We might tinker with the cut, but we like most of the shots, so go for it. Put your guy in,’” Hickel says. “Jon was like, ‘Well, actually there’s a lot of this that I don’t think is really working yet and we’ve got a lot to do our end, so you should just run with it. If you’ve got a better idea for a shot, show it to me. And, in fact, if you guys want to re-cut some of this and move the shots around …”

So Hickel and the animators redesigned many of the shots for that sequence, and for others, as well.

“The creative partnership we had with the client was above and beyond what we usually have,” Hickel says. “I would throw shot design over to the animators saying, ‘Jon invited us to help fix some problem they had with this sequence or that sequence.' It was very exciting.”


Better Hero Moves Through Virtual Reality
During the fight at the end of the film, for example, when Iron Man battles Iron Monger, ILM amped up many of the shots using virtual backgrounds to duplicate the filmed footage. “We started departing from the plate photography and used the virtual background process to recreate the environments,” Snow says. “With our tool set, we’re now pretty free to do that as long as we document the set really thoroughly.” Being able to reframe the cameras allowed the animators to create more heroic comic book moves.

“There’s a gag where Stark starts to take his suit off and Monger shows up,” Hickel says. “He pops his hand up and there’s no RT [repulsor technology]. That was our idea. And then, he sort of hops up and punches Monger. We used our high-res stills to spread out the set with a virtual reality background so he could jump through the air and get a big Marvel Comics pose before he comes down.”


Breaking Out the "Tweak Cam"
Similarly, for the sky fight between Iron Man and Iron Monger, the digimatte team at ILM led by Chris Stosky provided proxy backgrounds that they refined after the animators completed their work. For these shots, because there were no plates, the animators performed the characters and the camera. But even when the camera move was in the plate, the animators often refined the move using a tool called a “tweak cam” developed at ILM for Transformers.

Hickel describes how it works: “In the 3D scene you have a match-move camera and your character standing in front of a background plate. We give the animators a new camera in exactly the same spot with the same match-move animation on it that they could mess with.”

For example, animators might shake the camera when they knock over a heavy character. Or, they might zoom in and frame down on the character. Before, to change the camera in a shot, they needed to kick the shot back to the match-move or layout department. On this film, the camera shake moved from the animators to the match-movers as corner pins. The match-movers would re-register the frame in 2D, but the change was driven by what animators had done with the 3D camera.

Of course, that opened the potential for chaos in the pipeline had not ILM anticipated just such a possibility. “It seemed like we needed to do something all the time, but we put good processes in place to communicate that the camera changed to all the other departments,” Hickel says. “You don’t want the background rendered with one camera and the creature with another. And, everyone on this crew had been here quite a while so I didn’t worry.”

For Nelson, techniques such as these pleased his perfectionist nature. “We never stopped changing until we couldn’t change things any more,” he says, noting that he had asked for tests from eight studios before settling on ILM, The Orphanage, and The Embassy. “We didn’t just cast the actors, we cast the vendors. Animation is acting. A lot of people would have just done the previs, but we didn’t hire them to do the previs. We hired them to do the value added. We wanted minds, not fingers. And, everyone contributed.”

Source Link:http://www.studiodaily.com/filmandvideo/currentissue/9462.html