Is an "R" Rating Really Better?

[returntovoid]

I think Wolverine should have been rated R because in the comic books, during his adamantium grafting, He was in a tank full of blood, when his claws came out, his knuckles were bleeding profusely and anyway, Wolverine's own comic books are more violent then the X-Men comic books.

 

[Sam Fisher]

Hey man that's just how I would like to see it.

Yo can hav your opinions of course. I just find myself scratching my head at some of those. Why in the world does Hulk or Superman need to be R?

 

[returntovoid]

I always find it hilarious when people say they want an R rated Batman movie. Batman DOES NOT need to be R rated, folks.

Yeah, it's really silly of people to think Batman should rated R, I mean, Batman doesn't go around cutting heads with his batarang or saying the f word after every second.

 

[dude stannis]

I wouldn't necessarily be against an R rated Batman, but only if it's done with class, with no super villains, as a sprwling crime epic in the style of The Godfather, Heat, American Gangster, Casino and Goodfellas.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Some people have a huge bloodlust.

I don't want to see an R rated Batman, Superman, Spider-Man, Iron Man, Hulk or X-Men. But an R rated Wolverine would be fine.

 

[returntovoid]

But an R rated Wolverine would be fine.

Also R rated Deadpool, Daredevil and Spawn.

 

[Rishi]

Movies shouldn't have to cater to ratings systems.

 

[Raiden]

I don't think a R rating will necessary help a movie to go from terrible to fantastic. However, I think the same movie that has a PG-13 and R rated version, the R >>> PG-13, always. The reason is because for R rated movies, the filmmaker is given alot more leeways to tell the story as close as it is meant to be told, whereas for PG-13, you always have to compromise in terms of violence, sex, blood, or any objectable subjects. Therefore, I think a movie can only be improved upon, not hindered by, a R rating.

 

[Rac]

Buckets of black Orc blood would not have hurt the Lord of the Rings trilogy.

 

[returntovoid]

I don't know how they got away with showing a Orcs head getting chopped at the ending of Fellowship of the Ring.

 

[matrix_ghost]

I don't think a R rating will necessary help a movie to go from terrible to fantastic. However, I think the same movie that has a PG-13 and R rated version, the R >>> PG-13, always. The reason is because for R rated movies, the filmmaker is given alot more leeways to tell the story as close as it is meant to be told, whereas for PG-13, you always have to compromise in terms of violence, sex, blood, or any objectable subjects. Therefore, I think a movie can only be improved upon, not hindered by, a R rating.

I don't entirely agree with that. It is true that that the R rating will give the director more creative freedom . However the question really is what a director can do with that freedom. Is he going to include gore , blood and nudity just for the sake of it or will that actually help the story.

I don't know how they got away with showing a Orcs head getting chopped at the ending of Fellowship of the Ring.

It was a quick cut. And the blood was green colored instead of red. I remember reading an article in EMPIRE magazine . Peter Jackson said that one of the reasons why they could get away with alot of the violent scenes , was to simply use a different color for the blood. Often it works out well enough for the little kids not to be shocked.

 

[dark_b]

thats why i hate this rating system.

they always say that its about the kids. but those kids can watch through the whole day a lot of violence o the discovery channel or on the news channel .

 

[matrix_ghost]

off topic but ever notice how kids are always glued to the tv when they have documentaries of how tigers/lions/crocodiles attack their pray

 

[dark_b]

last years we had in europe a lot of nutts kids killing a lot of kids in school. those were always ''mental'' kids. it had nothing to do with games,movies,.....

but the media always makes it like the games and movies are the reason.

 

[Lord Valumart]

being in the UK i'm slightly confused as to the american rating system. some of you have said that some movies over there have been rated R but over here they have been rated 15...

but anyhow, rating does not a good film make. make the film and then see what it turns out to be. if it gets an R rating then fine, if not then fine. but don't hack away at films to make them a lower rating and don't add in random boobs and guts to up it.

if it's good people will see it, it's that simple.

 

[Adrian89]

Not for any kind of movies, but for a movie like Terminator Salvation for example, it would've been better! It's annoying when the killings go off screen. I hate censor.

R rated movies are no longer so important and the ones which are R Rated nowadays are those awful Horror Movies or those lame gore SAW-type movies which go straight to DVD. People are so greedy nowadays: the more people in the theatre, the better. Not that they wouldn't make enough money already, but they are just GREEDY! Sad, but true.

 

[Crook]

I don't entirely agree with that. It is true that that the R rating will give the director more creative freedom . However the question really is what a director can do with that freedom. Is he going to include gore , blood and nudity just for the sake of it or will that actually help the story.

Does it matter? I don't agree every aspect that goes into a film, actually has to individually progress the narrative. If you truly strip away the shallow layers of what makes a modern movie, to the core essentials, you probably wouldn't have color, a score, excellent cinematography, etc.

Visuals such as the blood and nudity for example, even if unnecessary to the story, doesn't exactly hinder anything as well. Purely from a storytelling perspective.

 

[LexCorp]

It depends on the movie

Note - this poll should of had a fourth option

Both

Idiot thread.

As it stands to reason that a film like Wacthmen being restricted to a PG13 and a film like Disney's Bolt being turned into an R rating would drastically change the movie. That is the answer to the thread...moving on.

 

[-Arya-]

In certain genres and cases of film, yes it absolutely is better. Not only this but I believe its a necessity.

 

[LexCorp]

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[GothamAlleys]

Not for me. For me the rating does nothing. More or less blood or guts is completely irreleveant, its the story, the flow, the buildup and the characters that count

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[LexCorp]

Not for me. For me the rating does nothing. More or less blood or guts is completely irreleveant, its the story, the flow, the buildup and the characters that count

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The rating does more than add or remove gore and blood....

 

[dude stannis]

People citing story and character are boring. Not every movie works that way. A world where every movie tries to be the next Dark Knight and no movie tries to be the next Commando and vice versa is simply not a world worth living in.

 

[baerrtt]

Cinema went through decades where directors were making great action/adventure films without the 'benefit' of extreme violence, sex or swearing.

The mindest that every action film has to be R rated is genuinely silly because that license doesn't automatically make a film a superior example of it's genre. ROBOCOP is great because of it's script and concept, COMMANDO is great fun because...well it's genuinely hilarious. The violence doesn't make it stand out.

 

[matrix_ghost]

Cinema went through decades where directors were making great action/adventure films without the 'benefit' of extreme violence, sex or swearing.

The mindest that every action film has to be R rated is genuinely silly because that license doesn't automatically make a film a superior example of it's genre. ROBOCOP is great because of it's script and concept, COMMANDO is great fun because...well it's genuinely hilarious. The violence doesn't make it stand out.

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You tell if the audience is going to remember Robocop for it's SCI-FI elements or this scene.


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The mindest that every action film has to be R rated is genuinely silly because that license doesn't automatically make a film a superior example of it's genre.

True however it can make a movie very memorable t: