Is God's love conditional or unconditional?

[JLBats]

's'true. I can't get off with anyone younger than 24.

I guess you feel like you're one up on me now.

How's it feel to be down there, WILHELM?!

 

[blind_fury]

dimentionality is both ways. are you saying god is one dimentional. that is a point.

God either loves you or he doesn't.

 

[Extromaniac]

It depends if you believe in God or not, doesn't it?

 

[Danalys]

can't he love your future but hate your past or visa versa.

 

[blind_fury]

If God's love is unconditional he will always love that person regardless of their past history.

 

[Danalys]

goes into that hating the sin but loving the sinner the sin takes them far from god and god is lonely. but if the sins are future sins it works the other way around. god devil in one.

 

[pyromaniac]

So I guess you guys don't believe in Hell then.

If you believe in Hell, you will.

If you believe in a just, merciful and vengeful god, you will.

If you believe in the Devil, you will.

The unconditional love of God's is then far less 'man-made', that is, defined by boundaries, regulations and principles of man, than the aforementioned three.

 

[pyromaniac]

can't he love your future but hate your past or visa versa.

Uh - contradiction.

God is removed from time and space and dimension, and since we are all created, he'll have always loved us from since we were 'born' and even far long after our deaths. In fact, His love is neverending, as is the way of the universe that doesn't necessarily have to include this earth.

 

[Extromaniac]

Well, if I were to believe in the subject being discussed, I would have to say it is a very conditional love. Or at least for the God of the People. You can't be a unrepentant "sinner" or you are damned. You can not be a homosexual or you are damned. You cannot be an atheist or critical of "his" teachings, or you are damned.

I would label that as a very conditional "love".

 

[pyromaniac]

Well, if I were to believe in the subject being discussed, I would have to say it is a very conditional love. Or at least for the God of the People. You can't be a unrepentant "sinner" or you are damned. You can not be a homosexual or you are damned. You cannot be an atheist or critical of "his" teachings, or you are damned.

I would label that as a very conditional "love".

Yes, and I'm sure he'd love for us all to live in fear, which runs contrary to inherent design of human life.

He only asks that we evolve if it serves us, which in turn will enable us to serve others if we do so as we wish, not in the name of God.

If people claim to kill and driven to inflict harmful implemenetations in the name of God, well.... That makes man himself conditional, not the other way around.

I hope you are still learning, or rather, remembering, as we all are. It's the key.

 

[Danalys]

Uh - contradiction.

God is removed from time and space and dimension, and since we are all created, he'll have always loved us from since we were 'born' and even far long after our deaths. In fact, His love is neverending, as is the way of the universe that doesn't necessarily have to include this earth.

you split god and the devil and there is dimention. together there is only opdo.

 

[Extromaniac]

Yes, and I'm sure he'd love for us all to live in fear, which runs contrary to inherent design of human life.

He only asks that we evolve if it serves us, which in turn will enable us to serve others if we do so as we wish, not in the name of God.

If people claim to kill and driven to inflict harmful implemenetations in the name of God, well.... That makes man himself conditional, not the other way around.

I hope you are still learning, or rather, remembering, as we all are. It's the key.

I don't know how you're saying that's what he asks us to do. Did he talk to you personally? What gives you this impression. Truth is, "he" has talked to no one, and everything anyone gives as mandate from the "creator" is personal opinion. The pope would be a great example of this.

And actually, that last paragraph (not sentence) makes little to no sense. If people kill in the name of God, and this is allowed to go on even though "God" is all-seeing and all-knowing, his love must be conditional. Unless he just likes to see thousands of people die because of their faith and lack there of.

I don't know what your last sentence is implying. But yes, I'm still learning. But I'm not learning the same theology drivel that you are. I'm trying to piece together our true origin, not a fairy tale story of enchantment and mysticism.

 

[Super Kal]

I believe that God's love for us is completely unconditional

 

[blind_fury]

If God's love is unconditional then why does he allow human suffering?

 

[vegeta21]

So I guess you guys don't believe in Hell then.

i believe in "Hell", but I don't believe it was created by God. Though thats what the Bible, and many religions seem to make us believe.

 

[Super Kal]

In my religion, suffering is not His fault... we cause the suffering to ourselves.

 

[blind_fury]

i believe in "Hell", but I don't believe it was created by God. Though thats what the Bible, and many religions seem to make us believe.

Doesn't God have the ability to destroy Hell? Why would he allow it to exist if he didn't agree with it's purpose?

 

[Warhammer]

God loves everyone.
People go to hell, not because God doesn't love them, but because he gave us a choice to love him and some didnt.

 

[Warhammer]

Doesn't God have the ability to destroy Hell? Why would he allow it to exist if he didn't agree with it's purpose?

Because we have free will and a choice.

 

[Super Flight]

what is love

 

[DareDemon]

Amazing how any sort of religion is bashed on these boards. Truly.

God's love is infinite. However, he is also infinitly just.

 

[Super Kal]

Doesn't God have the ability to destroy Hell? Why would he allow it to exist if he didn't agree with it's purpose?

he uses it as a choice to make while we live...

If you dont believe in Him, you reject Him and your choice would be to suffer in Hell. You believe in Him, and you don't suffer.

It's all about choice, and He gives you that choice for your entire life.

 

[blind_fury]

In my religion, suffering is not His fault... we cause the suffering to ourselves.

God gave us choices that could lead to suffering, therefore it IS his fault.

 

[DareDemon]

God gave us choices that could lead to suffering, therefore it IS his fault.

Is it a gun shop's fault if someone who perfectly legally bought a gun kills someone with it?

 

[blind_fury]

Amazing how any sort of religion is bashed on these boards. Truly.

God's love is infinite. However, he is also infinitly just.

Who's bashing religion?