Only TDK managed to do that. BB was pretty self-contained, like TDKR was.
Nope in BB as well. Joker man, I'm copying your post here again:
Joe Chill, an example of the desperate who took the lives of Bruce's parents. Shows how bad in Gotham things got. An example of the kind of person who kills when they're hungry as Ra's put it.
The homeless man, a flavor of the lowest in Gotham who are not bad guys, haven't given into the desperation and accept the poverty situation of Gotham. He could have mugged Bruce or tried to steal from him, but he didn't.
D.A. Finch and his reluctance to prosecute because Falcone has half the city bought and paid for. An example of the "Good people scared" that Rachel spoke about.
Flass, the corrupt Cop. An obvious one. The rotten apples good people like Gordon has to work with and can't do anything about it.
Judge Faden, the corrupt judge. This man can set people free to line up for assassination for Falcone. An example of how Falcone's corruption has spread into the legal system.
The upper class people at the hotel scene. People who are not desperate, not affected by crime, and therefore have a divided opinion on Batman tackling crime in Gotham. Some think he's great, others think he is crazy, shouldn't take the law into his own hands etc.
Earle, more upper class. A man in power who abuses his power by covering up thefts in his company. He's not corrupt. He's just a bad egg.
The Felafel guy, the lower class. Struggles to earn a living and is abused by the corrupt like Flass by taking his money.
The Narrows kid, more lower class. The kind of good people who populate the Narrows. The "dirty" section of Gotham.
There's a whole bunch of different types and classes of Gothamites and all used effectively in the story to paint a personality and reaction to all things in Gotham.
Sod all personalities like that sort of variety in Rises.
But BB still had moments where Gotham reacted to Batman. Only in a few scenes but it was still there.
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The issue for me was that Bane wanted Gotham to tear itself apart. He said he wants Bruce "watch them clambering over eachother" so that he can understand the depths of his failure. But we never see that. Gotham looks pretty fine to me. I do think there was two films worth of material here and Nolan done the best possible job when condensing them in to two. Gotham should have been a massive part of the story no it didn't needs heaps of social/class split but just enough to know how Gotham was. After five months Gotham should have been hanging on by a thread but at the end all we see are people walking out of their houses? As if they have been sitting in the whole time waiting for this all to blow over. It never felt like anyone wanted Batman to return.
The part where we see the flaming bat-signal to me should have been THEE moment of the film. That should be the part where the whole of Gotham take a stand but all we see is one character.
A two-parter could easily have been done. It could have focused on Bruce and his current life and him preparing to take the streets once again. We could have had more of Bane and him slowly building an army underground and throughout Gotham. Gotham's current state and more in depth with the Harvey Dent act. Much much more of Selina. The Wayne Legacy and how Bruce Wayne is affecting it. Then Bane's Stock Exchange and Bruce decides it is time to return. Then Batman planning to infiltrate Bane's lair. More Miranda Tate and the energy stuff. Could also have Bane's plan a lot more fleshed out than it was and show that Gotham is still very corrupt and that the Dent act has really only papered over the cracks, this would also give more sense to Talia/Bane's reason to want to destroy Gotham. Gotham Citizens/Police reaction/Gordon reaction to Batman returning. Batman confronting Bane then Bruce thrown in prison. Bane takes over Gotham - End of Part 1. Loads to go with there may not sound interesting but I'm sure Nolan would have found a way.
Part two would be all about Bruce and him training in prison. Much more about how Gotham is coping under Bane and also Selina turning away from her crime lifestyle because of it. Groups of Gothamite rebels trying to fight Bane's men. Gotham simply turning against itself. People living in poverty. The people turning to Batman for their only hope. Some people turning/accepting Bane as their new saviour. Bruce watching his city tortured. We actually feel the 5 months pass this way and it isn't done in one cut. Much more of Bane's backstory. Then Bruce gets free gets back to Gotham and does the whole bridge stuff. Then the final battle which can also be a lot more fleshed out and feel like a city fighting for its life.
You may not like I'm saying that there was potential here for the film to be a two parter. A lot of the marketing was built on Batman vs Bane/RISE/Army vs Police where in reality the fight wasn't really focused on I think 30 seconds after we see that brawl its Batman/Bane and the rest is never focused on.
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