The Dark Knight Rises Marion Cottilard in The Dark Knight Rises?

[Banana-Hotdog]

No effing way
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One quick glance at your 3 post history tells me you are a troll.

Be gone.

 

[aandfrugby25]

YOU SHALL NOT PASS TROLL

 

[RoughNTumble]

I consider myself a very talented person, capable of accomplishing anything I set my mind to. I have a good ear for music and sounds and a good singing voice. I gave an afternoon's attempt at putting on a scottish accent. Listening to advice from people on youtube, listening to different scottish people and the way they pronounce certain words, and of course practicing a lot. I was absolute rubbish. I'm certain that if I kept at it I could eventually be convincing, but it's really no easy task to switch accents and keep it believable. It takes a lot of hard work.

 

[flickchick85]

Are you under the impression that only native English speakers can speak in a perfect accent? You couldn't me more wrong my friend. And these are actors we're talking about, accents and believability are a part of their craft. The same goes for any other languages. To me, this is an absurd notion, and not the good kind.

I don't believe lililatigresse was suggesting it was impossible, just pointing out that it's an ENTIRELY different animal for a non-native English speaker to speak English with a perfect accent than it is for the Kate Winslets and Russell Crowes of the world. It's not a matter of acting or accents so much as it is a matter of language. Finding an actor who can speak a second language with a flawless accent is extremely rare, because some languages, including French, use completely different muscles in the throat to speak it than English does. The only actors I've seen able to pull off a second language without an accent from their native one are those whose muscles have already been conditioned for that language through years of schooling, like Eva Green and Jodie Foster. And that's only because Green learned in an English school growing up, and Foster learned in a French one, and even THEN, neither of them do it perfectly. And I still doubt Green's ability to speak with an American accent, because you can still hear her "French muscles" at work when she's speaking in her English one (ever notice how she sounds like she's swallowing her consonants?).

The point is, it's not impossible for Cotillard to drop her accent. It's just a HUGE undertaking, and with what little prep time she's gonna have for this movie, and considering she's gonna have her hands full pretty soon as well, I doubt that she would have time for such an undertaking (or that Nolan would ask it of her). This character's gonna have a French-ish accent. I'd bet money on that.

 

[lililatigresse]

You're missing the point. Why would they even talk to the likes of Watts or Weisz for a role they wouldn't be suited for? Marion may be suited for Talia, but the other actresses aren't, hence the role is unlikely to be Talia.

Because Watts and Weisz are two of the best actresses today and they are known for aging well and looking younger than they are.
Wasn't Cillian Murphy is the short list for Batman? I mean I adore him, but do you really think he is perfectly suited for Batman?
By the way Cotillard is 35 and Neesom is 58.

 

[TheTrickster]

Idon't have a problem with accents. Sean Connery played Russians, French, English, Americans, etc and never changed his accent for any of his roles.

 

[plugginmuffin]

I'm really quite saddened she's not going to be Selina. I just really hope Marion won't be Talia, besides, wouldn't she be a bit old for Ra's daughter? Not that she is old, but he'd be a young dad.

 

[Mercurius]

Differences are:

1. Hugh Laurie is a natural English speaker

2. His accent is nowhere near as thick as Cotillard's and is easier to flatten.

Similutes are: two great actors, two peculiar abilities of concealing, and rich studio backing it up.

 

[the Wankstar]

Ive a hard time believing Marion will put her new born child aside to do this movie, really hope Winslet gets it.

 

[Mercurius]

Winslet would be a perfect Essen.

 

[StarLord]

Ive a hard time believing Marion will put her new born child aside to do this movie, really hope Winslet gets it.

Well, they're filming again in November so perhaps she'll do all her scenes then.

 

[the Wankstar]

I know she wont be preggers anymore im talking about actually being there the first few months for her first born child.

Im curious if Nolan would combine Essen/Janice Porter to kill two birds with one stone

 

[RustyCage]

Aside from the moral implications, does anyone honestly see Nolan setting aside time in this final movie to deal with Gordon's love life?

Gordon's had a nice, meaty role in this series (at least compared to previous incarnations), but let's face it, he still gets very few scenes revolving around his personal life, and not directly involving Batman.

I actually do believe that Essen has a good shot of showing up in the film, but I'd assume it would be merely in a professional capacity. Like I said before, she would easily fill the void left by Rachel/Dent/Loeb/Flass as the token cop/public official for Gordon to work with.

Agreed, and I'd prefer it that way frankly. It's such a silly contrivance to me, his affair.

 

[Mercurius]

I think the affair stuff is really nice (and I expect Nolan to do something with it), cause everything in Batman is always a way to explore human weakness and how to deal with it in a way that most other comic book characters and stories wouldn't do.

This is a very interesting feature: Batman needs to deal with a darker world, that is quite like ours, but he does that conjuring abnormal force and personal beliefs, not to mention the theatrics.

And the Essen affair is something that begins in a very human way, purely as a love attraction, but it is immediately taken out of its proportion, bringing mayhem to the whole city, and hell into Gordon's life.

It's a very interesting way to underline how evil the mechanisms of that society are, and, of course, in a mirror, ours too.

 

[the amazing fro]

I hate the Gordon affair thing because it removes any sympathy or admiration I ever had for Gordon. And for him to have an affair after his wife and children nearly got killed would be the pinnacle of *******ness.

 

[Gianakin_]

I think Gordon having an affair can be a very good story element. It doesn't remove anything from his bravery or his altruism concerning his fight against crime. It just makes him even more human in my eyes. Of course, they shouldn't write the story with Gordon being a d**chebag while and when he's doing what he does.

 

[StarLord]

I hate the Gordon affair thing because it removes any sympathy or admiration I ever had for Gordon. And for him to have an affair after his wife and children nearly got killed would be the pinnacle of *******ness.

I agree with this.

 

[the amazing fro]

It would also be a bit of an unnecessary distraction. A random subplot of the police commissioner doing the dirty with one of his co-workers would feel unbelievably out of place especially since this is one supposed to be batman's story.

 

[TheScarecrow]

I would prefer Winslet.

If Winslet wanted to be in any movie, I can't imagine they wouldn't cast her. Winslet's my favourite actress, Marion's second. So...this is not a major issue for me.

But yes, I'd prefer Winslet if only to add a bit of variety and "OMG, how will she play it!" to the role (since I still think it's Talia).

 

[Gianakin_]

It would also be a bit of an unnecessary distraction. A random subplot of the police commissioner doing the dirty with one of his co-workers would feel unbelievably out of place especially since this is one supposed to be batman's story.

That would depend on the overall story and themes, which I don't know.

 

[Mercurius]

It would also be a bit of an unnecessary distraction. A random subplot of the police commissioner doing the dirty with one of his co-workers would feel unbelievably out of place especially since this is one supposed to be batman's story.

It isn't "dirty". The name for what they're doing is of great nobility. It is called "biblical".

 

[the amazing fro]

It isn't "dirty". The name for what they're doing is of great nobility. It is called "biblical".

It ain't so noble when he's got a wife and two kids at home who have been through ****. Its downright dirty.

 

[Gianakin_]

It ain't so noble when he's got a wife and two kids at home who have been through ****. Its downright dirty.

It's a questionable course of action. And that's why it's an interesting human aspect to explore.

 

[Mercurius]

It ain't so noble when he's got a wife and two kids at home who have been through ****. Its downright dirty.

Gianakin is right about the questionable action to explore dramatically.

And it's far more complicated than "downright dirty", unless you may find a synonym for 'downright dirty" in "human".

I can't believe you have never watched a film by Woody Allen, or read the Confessions, by Augustine. Or even the History of my Life, by Giacomo Casanova.

 

[the amazing fro]

Gianakin is right about the questionable action to explore dramatically.

And it's far more complicated than "downright dirty", unless you may find a synonym for 'downright dirty" in "human".

Is it so wrong to find adultery immoral? I think cheating is a totally disgusting thing to do but perhaps I'm old fashioned. There are better and more intelligent ways for Gordon's character to be explored than making him an ass.

I can't believe you have never watched a film by Woody Allen, or read the Confessions, by Augustine. Or even the History of my Life, by Giacomo Casanova

Woody Allen is perhaps the most overrated director in Hollywood and "Histoire de ma vie" is utter dross. I haven't read Confessions but I doubt it would sway me much in my opinion