My whole thing on the "Gotham's POV" angle is this...
BB was completely focused on Bruce. I mean really, besides that one scene at the restaurant (which is a light scene), what other random Gothamite perspectives do we get? The "nice coat" guy? kid from Game of Thrones?
Let us count the ways of how we saw the people of Gotham City in this:
- Joe Chill, an example of the desperate
- The homeless man
- D.A. Finch and his reluctance to prosecute because Falcone has half the city bought and paid for
- Flass, the corrupt Cop
- Judge Faden, the corrupt judge
- The upper class people at the hotel scene
- Earle, more upper class
- The Felafel guy, the lower class
- The Narrows kid, more lower class
All samplings of various kinds of Gothamites in Gotham, and the kind of people Batman is fighting for. In fact I'll go far as to say the reaction from the upper class snobs to Batman in the hotel scene alone was more citizen insight than TDKR gave.
In TDK Bruce wasn't even really the true protagonist of the story. We got to see how Gotham reacted to Batman, Joker and everything that was going on. There was more of an omnipresent narrative at work and we got to explore the inner workings of Gotham city more. Everything in the movie reflected back to Batman and in the end he was the title character for a reason, but it was a definite genre shift to the crime saga.
TDK was about the battle of Gotham's soul. Batman was trying to present the city with a better hero than he could be with Harvey, and Joker was trying to tear all of that down.
When a villain's plot directly affects the people of Gotham in a personal way, like Joker's and Bane's did, the city's people are very important to that to make the plans seem more real and genuine. When Joker inflicted chaos, you saw the Gotham people be scared, panic, turn on Batman, turn on each other, even turn to chaos themselves out of fear of him and his threats.
Bane reveals major truths to Gotham, offers them their city back, their White Knight hero is revealed as a fraud, and the supposed murderer of their savior comes back. Not even the most die hard apologist could deny reactions from Gotham's people was necessary.
TDKR, while the plot put Gotham's citizens in more peril than ever, shifted its focus back to Bruce's journey again. What I connected with is how TDKR really put you down in that pit with Bruce. While Gotham burned, you got to go on this journey with Bruce, rooting for him to find the strength to get out and reclaim his city.
Can you explain how showing some of Gotham's reactions to their dilemmas and the startling revelations would have taken such a huge bite out of Bruce's story?
Shave 5 minutes off Blake's screen time and you could have had plenty.
The way I see it, Bane could have thrown Bruce in Blackgate and had him guarded 24/7, and we might have gotten a more Gotham-centric film that never left the city and was more focused on the blow by blow of what was going on there. I just think taking it global and spending time away from Gotham with Bruce helped the film tap into that more personal (I'd even say spiritual) Batman Begins vibe which I really appreciated. Of course, I wouldn't have minded seeing more of the average Gothamite's perspective. I wouldn't have objected to another 15 minutes or so of runtime to allow for that. But I think ultimately that would just appease my curiosity, not necessarily make it a tighter or better movie.
This is the mentality that perplexes me. Look at this:
- The Russian Ballerina giving her opinion of Gotham and Batman and Dent at the dinner scene
- The people at Dent's press conference
- The people on the ferries
Now that's just a sampling of some of the major scenes that incorporated Gotham's people as individual personalities. With all the siege stuff in TDKR, are you REALLY saying inserting some Gotham centric citizens like that would have been such a dramatic change to the script?
The most laughable thing of all is that out of all the villains, Bane's plan was the one that was about the people more than ever, because he spent MONTHS with them under his rule, and we got no insight at all from how any of the Gotham people felt about this.
It completely robbed Gotham of a personality and an identity. That's why so many didn't give a hoot about Gotham's plight.