Is this a double Standard or not?

[Ghostvirus]

BINGO!

They're not slaves anymore.

They need to get over it.

I don't think the Older fold should get over it. They were still around before the Civil Rights movement. I do think they need to try & not pass down there Jaded attitude.

I do agree that anyone born in 1980, & beyond should get over it. They really don't have a clue what true racism is.

 

[blind_fury]

BINGO!

They're not slaves anymore.

They need to get over it.

So I guess racism doesn't exist anymore.

 

[Machx72]

I don't think the Older fold should get over it. They were still around before the Civil Rights movement. I do think they need to try & not pass down there Jaded attitude.



I do agree that anyone born in 1980, & beyond should get over it. They really don't have a clue what true racism is.

I know, I was referring to the younger generation like you were.

I'm fully sympathetic toward those who actually suffered. It's the younger generation of people who are a lot like the man in my other post [the one who visited one of the radio talk shows I listen to] that I can't stand.

 

[blind_fury]

If whites are enslaved, raped, and opressed for the next 500 years by Asians I'm pretty sure a few generations later whites are still going to resent it.

and rightfully so.

 

[Machx72]

If whites are enslaved, raped, and opressed for the next 500 years by Asians I'm pretty sure a few generations later they're still going to resent it.

and rightfully so.

Resentment, yes, but there's no reason they should be able to reap the benefits their ancestors deserve due to their ancestors' enslavement, nor should they take anything out on white people who are alive now who don't own slaves.

I have an ancestor that was a Confederate soldier... Regardless of whether he owned any slaves or not, I don't feel slavery- nor racism in any form- is right.

 

[Manic]

How the hell did the topic of racism show up in a thread about music?

 

[blind_fury]

This thread was begging to be hijacked.

 

[Manic]

Yeah, but I thought the hijacker would've been sex. Not the decline of racism.

 

[Machx72]

I think it was over if Antonella's stay on American Idol was because of the fact that she's white, and whether or not Frenchie got removed because she's black.

 

[Ghostvirus]

It was because in one of the post JAL posted. It says the the a Civil Rights Organization is thinking about filing a racism complaint.

 

[blind_fury]

Resentment, yes, but there's no reason they should be able to reap the benefits their ancestors deserve due to their ancestors' enslavement, nor should they take anything out on white people who are alive now who don't own slaves.

Reparations isn't discussed by most blacks on a regular basis and most blacks who attack present day racism are not attacking everybody who is white, they're attacking the legacy of racism that still exist today.

 

[Manic]

The hell? Frenchie is fat. Antonella is slim. There. That's your reason. It's turning crap like this into racial issues that makes people flat-out ignore the real racial issues out there.

 

[Showtime]

The "pornographic" photos supposedly of Antonella are so obvious that they are not her.

The other photos are certainly photos in sexy poses, but you could find something like this on Flickr, Photobucket, or webshots. I believe the previous contestant that was banned was paid for her actions

It's apples and oranges in my opinion.

 

[Machx72]

The hell? Frenchie is fat. Antonella is slim. There. That's your reason. It's turning crap like this into racial issues that makes people flat-out ignore the real racial issues out there.

^^This was my point.

 

[blind_fury]

The hell? Frenchie is fat. Antonella is slim. There. That's your reason. It's turning crap like this into racial issues that makes people flat-out ignore the real racial issues out there.

I agree.

I just get pissed when whites trivialize 500 years of rape, opression and exploitation with "get over it" type comment.

 

[hey yo its sean]

****, I was going to make that joke.

 

[Machx72]

I agree.

I just get pissed when whites trivialize 500 years of rape, opression and exploitation with "get over it" type comment.

Black people of the new generation have no reason to carry on the way they do about whites when they didn't suffer the problem at all.

Like I said... I'm all for the sympathy toward those who actually suffered as a result of the anti-Civil Rights movements and before that, but those now who try to turn arguments around because, "the white man treated my ancestors badly," [yes I've heard that in an argument before]... That's complete bull****.

 

[Manic]

My mom raised me to believe that I make my own trouble, and that my success or failure at life will be my own doing. Why? Because I should never let my race dictate what I do with my life. That's how I was raised. My brother's not in jail because he's black and the government is run by white people; he's in jail because he held up a f***ing store. If this country was run by black people, he'd still be in jail. That's the way things are.

I'll leave you all with this little nugget of joy:
You can sit and talk about whether or not black people in America are owed reparations 'til the cows come home. It doesn't matter. It's never gonna happen, so we have to make our own money. We have to start new legacies. We have to take this amazing gift that our parents, grandparents, and forefathers fought so hard for, and do something with it besides put new rims on a Ford Focus.

Thank you, and good night.
[/soapbox]

 

[Erzengel]

the sex videos are more of an issue than the pictures, but no ones sure if it's really her anyway.

If you see the whole video, I've seen pics from the thing, it's not her, you can tell in the chin. Antonella's is sharper than the girl on the video.

Secondly to answer you question JAL int's not a double standard.

The 1st girl did topless shots.

Antonella did non nude shots.

I think that's the only real difference.

 

[Crooklyn]

If you see the whole video, I've seen pics from the thing, it's not her, you can tell in the chin. Antonella's is sharper than the girl on the video.

Where is this video, I need to see that mystery girl in motion if the pics are of any indication.

 

[blind_fury]

Black people of the new generation have no reason to carry on the way they do about whites when they didn't suffer the problem at all.

Like I said... I'm all for the sympathy toward those who actually suffered as a result of the anti-Civil Rights movements and before that, but those now who try to turn arguments around because, "the white man treated my ancestors badly," [yes I've heard that in an argument before]... That's complete bull****.

So a jewish person arguing about anti-semitism can't bring up the Holocaust?

I mean they never spent time in a concentration camp so they can't use it as a historical reference right?

Oh and anti-semitism still exist today just as racism against blacks does.

 

[The Apatow Crew]

The "pornographic" photos supposedly of Antonella are so obvious that they are not her.

The other photos are certainly photos in sexy poses, but you could find something like this on Flickr, Photobucket, or webshots. I believe the previous contestant that was banned was paid for her actions

It's apples and oranges in my opinion.

The frenchie chick said it shouldn't have matter if she was paid or not.

the antella chick was caught in a series of almost naked photo's and frenchie she said she shouldn't have to be the only one to take the blunt of this abuse cause of something she did in the past.

So shes basically pissed she had to pay for what she did and shes mad nothing is happening to this chick now.

but yeah i know its not a thing of racism.

It's a case of Slim vs Thick.

 

[blind_fury]

My mom raised me to believe that I make my own trouble, and that my success or failure at life will be my own doing. Why? Because I should never let my race dictate what I do with my life. That's how I was raised. My brother's not in jail because he's black and the government is run by white people; he's in jail because he held up a f***ing store. If this country was run by black people, he'd still be in jail. That's the way things are.

I'll leave you all with this little nugget of joy:
You can sit and talk about whether or not black people in America are owed reparations 'til the cows come home. It doesn't matter. It's never gonna happen, so we have to make our own money. We have to start new legacies. We have to take this amazing gift that our parents, grandparents, and forefathers fought so hard for, and do something with it besides put new rims on a Ford Focus.

Thank you, and good night.
[/soapbox]

I know reparations will never happen but I enjoy debating about it anyway. And internet debates never change anything anyways so who cares.

 

[Erzengel]

The frenchie chick said it shouldn't have matter if she was paid or not.

the antella chick was caught in a series of almost naked photo's and frenchie she said she shouldn't have to be the only one to take the blunt of this abuse cause of something she did in the past.

So shes basically pissed she had to pay for what she did and shes mad nothing is happening to this chick now.

but yeah i know its not a thing of racism.

It's a case of Slim vs Thick.

But she wasn't naked...if you want to argue semantics, Antonella wasn't nude, Frenchie was.

 

[Machx72]

So a jewish person arguing about anti-semitism can't bring up the Holocaust?

I mean they never spent time in a concentration camp so they can't use it as a historical reference right?

Oh and anti-semitism still exist today just as racism against blacks does.

Did we ever bring up using historical references?

No.

I'm talking about reverse discrimination here.