The Amazing Spider-Man It's official! Andrew Garfield to play Spider-Man!

[spider-neil]

@ Ultimate Fan, I disagree with you, sorry. Usually I agree, but this time I don't.

The difference between Peter Parker and Spider-Man in Raimi's franchise was not very noticeable. I hated that.

I agree with this. I didn't have a problem with peter parker but I did feel spidey didn't have a personality bt to be fair to sam I watched the train fight over and over again to see where quips could have been inserted and (imho) it would have ruined the pacing.

 

[NinjaCarm]

I agree with this. I didn't have a problem with peter parker but I did feel spidey didn't have a personality bt to be fair to sam I watched the train fight over and over again to see where quips could have been inserted and (imho) it would have ruined the pacing.

I understand, but overall, Spider-Man's presence felt like a shadow. Roger Ebert said it best, everytime you saw Spider-Man, he was gone. Also again, when he was there, I, personally, saw Maguire's portrayal of Peter Parker not the presence of a hero / Spider-Man.

The presence of the 60s cartoon Spider-Man on screen is what I long for.

 

[terry78]

Well, Garfield from the interviews sounds pretty grateful about the whole thing and seems like he wants to have fun with it, so we'll see how it comes about.

 

[Doctor Jones]

Newsflash, Spider-Man is all all-ages character, despite what the comics try to be post-1986.

This "no kids allowed" attitude is what is killing comics. I got into Spider-Man when I was 12 years old.

Agreed. Guess what? I got into Batman and Spider-Man when I was 5 years old. And I love them both equally more than ever. They're on completely different ends of the spectrum. Both characters are for all ages, but the key is to go back to the root of the characters and what makes them so great in the first place and do it correctly.

 

[NinjaCarm]

Well, Garfield from the interviews sounds pretty grateful about the whole thing and seems like he wants to have fun with it, so we'll see how it comes about.

True that. His enthusiasm and knowledge and love of the character is very hopeful.

 

[ultimatefan]

@ Ultimate Fan, I disagree with you, sorry. Usually I agree, but this time I don't.

The difference between Peter Parker and Spider-Man in Raimi's franchise was not very noticeable. I hated that.

That´s okay. Different fans perceive the character in different ways, particularly ones that have had so many different takes. All I´m saying is that approach of Raimi´s version is not necessarily wrong, depending on what your favorite versions, and aspects, of the Spidey mythos are.

 

[NinjaCarm]

That´s okay. Different fans perceive the character in different ways, particularly ones that have had so many different takes. All I´m saying is that approach of Raimi´s version is not necessarily wrong, depending on what your favorite versions, and aspects, of the Spidey mythos are.

Me personally, am waiting for that Spider-Man as seen in the Romita Sr years and 60s cartoon. Not an aged 60s Spider-Man, the classic witty strong awesome Spider-Man.

 

[JAK®]

I don't think there ever was a version of the character where the Peter Parker and Spider-Man identities were that different. He just had different problems for both identities.

 

[NinjaCarm]

I don't think there ever was a version of the character where the Peter Parker and Spider-Man identities were that different. He just had different problems for both identities.

Nonetheless, the presence of the character should have been different. Think Bruce Wayne and Batman in Dark Knight. Yeah, people hated his voice, I didn't. When I first saw Batman in Dark Knight, the one scene where he was interogatting Eric Roberts, I thought he was like a creature or something.

Difference of personas def needed.

 

[JAK®]

Nonetheless, the presence of the character should have been different. Think Bruce Wayne and Batman in Dark Knight. Yeah, people hated his voice, I didn't. When I first saw Batman in Dark Knight, the one scene where he was interogatting Eric Roberts, I thought he was like a creature or something.

Difference of personas def needed.

But the point of Spider-Man is that he's just an average guy in a costume. So he's different in the sense that being a superhero allows him to express his heroic side but other than that, he's the same guy.

 

[spider-neil]

It's a little pointless to say garfield has a great personality therefore so will Spidey, Garfield will say what is in the script. So if Spidey has no personality with the new script treatment he will have no personality, what's Garfield going to do? Wave his arms more in the suit then Toby did?

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

Nonetheless, the presence of the character should have been different. Think Bruce Wayne and Batman in Dark Knight. Yeah, people hated his voice, I didn't. When I first saw Batman in Dark Knight, the one scene where he was interogatting Eric Roberts, I thought he was like a creature or something.

Difference of personas def needed.

Bale is good as batman, but that voice can't be justified. I highly doubt it struck fear into anybody, and quite frankly, I think more people laughed than were scared. It's stupid and uneeded, IMO. His voice was defenitely better in Begins.

JAK said it best, IMO, which is one of the reasons why I thought Tobey's Spider-Man was great

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

Me personally, am waiting for that Spider-Man as seen in the Romita Sr years.

We got some of that in S-M2. The film took some inspiration from ASM #50, as well as some of Ditko's run with him losing his powers like in ASM Annual #1.

 

[©KAW]

It's a little pointless to say garfield has a great personality therefore so will Spidey, Garfield will say what is in the script. So if Spidey has no personality with the new script treatment he will have no personality, what's Garfield going to do? Wave his arms more in the suit then Toby did?

This is what I've been saying all along, it's all in the script and direction. Tobey could have been a much better Peter/Spidey had these two components were up to par. And the same (hopefully not *fingers crossed*) could be done with Andrew.

 

[NinjaCarm]

Bale is good as batman, but that voice can't be justified. I highly doubt it struck fear into anybody, and quite frankly, I think more people laughed than were scared. It's stupid and uneeded, IMO. His voice was defenitely better in Begins.

JAK said it best, IMO, which is one of the reasons why I thought Tobey's Spider-Man was great

OMG you people never give up. I'm talking about two sides of the same coin. I'm talking different. I'm not saying Spider-Man should be Batman. I'm saying Spider-man should have a different presence than Peter Parker. Period.

And no, I don't agree in SM2 that it was like the 60s cartoon.

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

OMG you people never give up. I'm talking about two sides of the same coin. I'm talking different. I'm not saying Spider-Man should be Batman. I'm saying Spider-man should have a different presence than Peter Parker. Period.

And no, I don't agree in SM2 that it was like the 60s cartoon.

And we're not saying Spider-Man should be Batman. I was simply stating my views on the voice of Batman himself in TDK.

Also, I was talking about in comparison to the comics, not the 60's cartoon.

 

[Ajendo]

I disagree, he used to play more silent, inscrutable types, it was actually with the Spidey movies that people realized he could play more down-to-earth, sympathetic characters.

If lack of acting range should be a limitation for roles, Ben Affleck should make a movie every ten years. Adam Sandler, every fifteen.

I couldn't care less about Affleck or Sandler but when it comes to spider-man my attention is on full alert. My point about Maguire is that the majority of his roles are all the same, reserved, depressing and simply lacking any iota of enthusiasm. It's these qualities that have essentially type cast Maguire and ironically enough is why he was cast for the role of Peter because that's how Raimi envinsioned the character, which imo is utter nonsense.

 

[Ajendo]

disagree with that, I always saw the spidey persona as wish fulfilment. money problems, and bullied as peter and cocky and confident as spidey even to the point of cracking jokes when scared for his life.

bruce wayne - mask for batman
superman - mask for clark kent
spider-man - mask for peter parker

Agreed.

To paraphrase; t"he world may make fun of peter parker but they will marvel at spider-man"

Spider-Man is Peter's release and over the years as Peter became more and more confident in himself, the self assurance and boldness of being spider-man opened the door for Peter to express himself also in a more self assured way that he had never done before prior to being bitten.

 

[Ajendo]

@ Ultimate Fan, I disagree with you, sorry. Usually I agree, but this time I don't.

The difference between Peter Parker and Spider-Man in Raimi's franchise was not very noticeable. I hated that.

Correct.

Raimi simply refused to distinguish a difference between the persona's of Peter and Spider-Man and with all the mask reveals that occurred, Raimi might as well not bothered with giving us a costume in the first place.

 

[Ajendo]

But the point of Spider-Man is that he's just an average guy in a costume. So he's different in the sense that being a superhero allows him to express his heroic side but other than that, he's the same guy.

Absolutely but there's nothing heroically punctuating about Peter Parker as opposed to Spider-Man. As spidey Peter can express himself freely, he can be a wise ass, powerful in his actions and just be conspicuously awesome. As Peter he's a lot more discrete and unassuming. There's a reason why black cat had issues with Peter.

 

[Ajendo]

It's a little pointless to say garfield has a great personality therefore so will Spidey, Garfield will say what is in the script. So if Spidey has no personality with the new script treatment he will have no personality, what's Garfield going to do? Wave his arms more in the suit then Toby did?

Looooool

That's a valid point. However, I take solace in knowing that Webb is a massive fan of USM and that USM from what I understand is a major contributing factor in telling these new movies. That being said, the persona of both Peter and Spidey is far more linear and clearer in terms of how to characterise Peter/spidey rather than trying to adapt a specific characteristic of Peter/Spidey from a particular era from 616 continuity.

 

[Ajendo]

Bale is good as batman, but that voice can't be justified. I highly doubt it struck fear into anybody, and quite frankly, I think more people laughed than were scared. It's stupid and uneeded, IMO. His voice was defenitely better in Begins.

JAK said it best, IMO, which is one of the reasons why I thought Tobey's Spider-Man was great

Hmmm, I don't have a problem with Bales bat voice and I only identify it as potentially unnecessary when listening/watching Keaton as batman but even then, I think the issue surrounding Bale's bat voice is nit-picking but that's just me.

 

[NinjaCarm]

Correct.

Raimi simply refused to distinguish a difference between the persona's of Peter and Spider-Man and with all the mask reveals that occurred, Raimi might as well not bothered with giving us a costume in the first place.

Absolutely. Absolutely. Someone sees the light.

 

[spider-neil]

Chris reeves absolutely nails the superhero/civilian persona in superman the movie in the scene where he is going to reveal his secret ID to lois. My gosh, he turns into a completely different person when he stands up straight and deepens his voice and changes back again by slouching and making his voice higher. I never got the sense of Peter changing his personality. I love raimi's Spidey but he could have done that aspect (Peter/Spidey) better.

 

[Ajendo]

Well Neil, that comes down to poor direction and poor writing and an even poorer sense of vision.