The Amazing Spider-Man Jacked Overnight?

[El Payaso]

Every law of physics out there. Just don't show a body (or scene with his shirt off) until later on in the movie. Makes it more believable, all I'm saying.

I agree. As he starts to use his strenght his muscles are rapidly developed, like in days, but not while he's seleeping one night. Sure, strenght comes right away, muscles are a consequence of the use of the strenght.

 

[Ajendo]

That sort of realism has no place in a spidey film. All this stuff aint supposed to be real.

 

[El Payaso]

That sort of realism has no place in a spidey film. All this stuff aint supposed to be real.

No superhero is supposed to be.

Then let's have Peter having a good life without problems and let's get rid of all of those 'realistic' things such as having a grumpy boss, not enough money, bad luck with girls etc etc. Too much reality. This is fantasy, let's have him powerful and happy at once.

 

[Ajendo]

You're missing my point. Extraordinary people in semi-realistic situations. Ignoring the problems Peter faces to match an unrealistic premise on the main character's super powers/abilities is silly. This is exactly why the film makers should pay very little attention to fanboys.

 

[Ken-Kaniff]

Jesus Christ. Who the **** cares? Just have it overnight

Let's have him waking up covered with white ooze and the movie can be about him discovering how it got there overnight and what happened. I'm just saying...

 

[SpeterMan3]

You're missing my point. Extraordinary people in semi-realistic situations. Ignoring the problems Peter faces to match an unrealistic premise on the main character's super powers/abilities is silly. This is exactly why the film makers should pay very little attention to fanboys.

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I really don't see how it matters either way. No one will be dissecting everything so closely, unless they're just looking for a reason to dislike the movie. It's a comic book movie. Those two phrases alone mean that it will not be 100% accurate to life. Why exactly would people waste $9 to go to a movie when they could experience everything in it by just going outside? The muscles can develop at whatever rate, as long as the plot is unaffected or helped by it. It doesn't matter. -_-

 

[El Payaso]

You're missing my point. Extraordinary people in semi-realistic situations. Ignoring the problems Peter faces to match an unrealistic premise on the main character's super powers/abilities is silly.

Strange. Superman does it all the time. Successfully I might add.

This is exactly why the film makers should pay very little attention to fanboys.

Rich. Label me as 'fanboy,' that can't fail.

I really don't see how it matters either way.

It's not like it will ruin the movie or anything like that. That said, we are allowed to express an opinion, are we?

No one will be dissecting everything so closely, unless they're just looking for a reason to dislike the movie.

That's strange, I was doing it in order to like the movie.

It's a comic book movie.

Yeah, Schumacher's words.

Those two phrases alone mean that it will not be 100% accurate to life.

I don't think a radioactive spiders giving you powers has anything to do with real life. Same as a superhero alien, a man dressing up as a bat or a green monster. Nevertheless the fantasy in all of them has glowed the best when combined with a sense of plausibility.

Why exactly would people waste $9 to go to a movie when they could experience everything in it by just going outside?

Yeah, why paying for a Spiderman movie when they can get bitten by a spider themselves? Oh wait, it doesn't work the same...

The muscles can develop at whatever rate, as long as the plot is unaffected or helped by it. It doesn't matter. -_-

Again, not what's going to make the movie fail or succeed. But it was like when Superman discovered his powers one by one and not all at once.

 

[SpeterMan3]

It's not like it will ruin the movie or anything like that. That said, we are allowed to express an opinion, are we?

Sure, I'm just a little surprised that a conversation can be made about this.

That's strange, I was doing it in order to like the movie.

Fair. Just seems like overdissecting to me. Maybe it's just me. Who knows?

I don't think a radioactive spiders giving you powers has anything to do with real life. Same as a superhero alien, a man dressing up as a bat or a green monster. Nevertheless the fantasy in all of them has glowed the best when combined with a sense of plausibility.

Completely true, I'm not arguing against that. I'm just saying that this seems like such a small detail that there's not really a point in discussing it so in depth.

Yeah, why paying for a Spiderman movie when they can get bitten by a spider themselves? Oh wait, it doesn't work the same...

That's my point...

Again, not what's going to make the movie fail or succeed. But it was like when Superman discovered his powers one by one and not all at once.

Once again, fair.

Discuss on. Just know that I'm judging you all.

Spoiler

jk

 

[El Payaso]

Sure, I'm just a little surprised that a conversation can be made about this.

You'd be amazed at how many people are surprised that other people can spend any time talking about superheroes.

Fair. Just seems like overdissecting to me. Maybe it's just me. Who knows?

It's like explaining where did Batman get the cape, gauntlets, car, etc. In Burton's movies it was all there, who cares. In Nolans' it was all explained. Was it overdissected for you? Because it was fairly accepted by audiences and I'm far from being a fan of Batman Begins.

Completely true, I'm not arguing against that. I'm just saying that this seems like such a small detail that there's not really a point in discussing it so in depth.

Well it happens all the time here. I wasn't discussing it as just expressing the way I'd do it - if there HAS to be done at all - then people reply and then I reply to them and BAM!: discussion.

That's my point...

And then again there are tons of realistic movies with tons of real life situations that are close to the audiences and yet they go and see those movies.

Once again, fair.

Discuss on. Just know that I'm judging you all.

Spoiler

jk

Lol.

It's okay.

 

[SpeterMan3]

Haha, yeah, I know. That's basically my response to everything you just said.

 

[socool]

I actually dont care for this. i actually kinda liked it. afterall, you have to remember this is Spider-man. its goofy to complain that he grows muscles over night but not his enhanced agility, spider-sense, spider-strength or wall-crawling.

 

[Casius--J]

I didnt know anyone had a problem with this scene, I thought it was brilliant. It didn't seem unrealistic to me considering he always had all his powers overnight in the other forms of media he's been in.

 

[DACrowe]

That's what I'm hoping for, but I don't know how that could work? The "Jacked overnight" thing just seems too unrealistic, is there any other way of illustrating that though?

Yeah...waking up one day and being able to climb walls, bend steel with your hands, jump hundreds of feet in the air--all while developing a near-psychic ability to predict danger seconds before it occurs (nevermind if they incorporate web from the wrists or not) IS OBVIOUSLY BELIEVABLE. But add in muscle growth...WTF? What next's next, you won't need glasses anymore? C'mon we all know spiders don't have 20/20 vision!!!1!!1!!



They probably should do it differently, just to do it differently and differentiate themselves. But Raimi's way was fine. I actually liked how Peter discovered his powers better than the dodge-a-car-and-discover-all-my-superpowers-in-five-seconds as told in the comics.

 

[El Payaso]

I didnt know anyone had a problem with this scene, I thought it was brilliant. It didn't seem unrealistic to me considering he always had all his powers overnight in the other forms of media he's been in.

I didn't have a problem with the scene because he grew muscles in one night. But oh Raimi had to add his humour in it 'yeah aunt may, my package grew too.'

 

[Casius--J]

Oh lol that part of the scene, yeah I see your point

 

[Spider-Boy]

I agree. As he starts to use his strenght his muscles are rapidly developed, like in days, but not while he's seleeping one night. Sure, strenght comes right away, muscles are a consequence of the use of the strenght.

THANK YOU! That's what I've been trying to say but couldn't spit out.

 

[ClarkLuther55]

Wow, the complaining about Peter's overnight muscles is so ridiculous. If you think Peter's overnight muscles are so stupid, then do you hate the Hulk? Because his muscles pop out in seconds.

As others have said, this is a movie about a guy who can stick to walls and shoot webs. The whole thing is fantasy. It's like people are trying to find things to complain about in Raimi's movies now. Between 2002 and 2007 this movie was considered a dream come true to comic geeks. Now some fans here have turned on Raimi even though the fans bear much of the fault for the trilogy's weak ending. They take it so far that they go back to pick the most insignificant things to criticize.

 

[ModestMr.Green]

I love how things that were not and should never have been issues before are suddenly becoming huge, unaccepable problems. Ironically enough, Christopher Nolan has done to comic book fans what the Joker did to the people of Gotham City in The Dark Knight.

Marvelous.

 

[DACrowe]

I didn't have a problem with the scene because he grew muscles in one night. But oh Raimi had to add his humour in it 'yeah aunt may, my package grew too.'

Humor was a bad thing there? Most of the audience I recalled loved it, laughing with Peter. It was actually Peter being kind of witty...y'know like how you always complain he isn't enough in the movie.

Or should he have had a realistic reaction of screaming and going to the hospital?

People complain to complain.

 

[chaseter]

Wow, the complaining about Peter's overnight muscles is so ridiculous. If you think Peter's overnight muscles are so stupid, then do you hate the Hulk? Because his muscles pop out in seconds.

As others have said, this is a movie about a guy who can stick to walls and shoot webs. The whole thing is fantasy. It's like people are trying to find things to complain about in Raimi's movies now. Between 2002 and 2007 this movie was considered a dream come true to comic geeks. Now some fans here have turned on Raimi even though the fans bear much of the fault for the trilogy's weak ending. They take it so far that they go back to pick the most insignificant things to criticize.

I know, some people are ridiculous. When the next director comes along to do Spider-Man then these same people will be criticizing Webb after kissing the ground he walks on. It's how fanboys are.

 

[Eggyman]

We need to get some info soon to distract us from each other.

 

[Spider-jedi]

this is a silly thread. over night muscles add very little to the story. whether he is jacked or not he is still spider-man

 

[Eggyman]

This is nothing, master jedi. Wait for the 'Which way should Pete part his hair' thread.

 

[chaseter]

To the left to the left.

 

[Tacit Ronin]

Ladies and Gentlemen... Christopher Nolans "Spider-Man".

XD

A spider-man movie with cloning machines and dreams within dreams would be interesting.