James Cameron's "Avatar" Thread v.4

[CelticPredator]

you know you are on a superhero forum right? lol

Jake Sully isnt a super hero...

 

[Passdom]

I have to ask, does Avatar really need 4 threads? It was not that good imo. Good, but not amazing.

But I digress...if there for some reason is more things to talk about...

What it so surprising about the biggest movie of the 21st century having multiple threads?

 

[Kane52630]

Jake Sully isnt a super hero...

This photo begs to differ

 

[CelticPredator]

^ pedo Sully.....

 

[Kane52630]

^ pedo Sully.....

 

[Bim]

I have to ask, does Avatar really need 4 threads? It was not that good imo. Good, but not amazing.

But I digress...if there for some reason is more things to talk about...

It needs it's box office earnings equivalent in threads

I think there's plenty more Avatar talk coming up, specially when they release the collector's edition dvd and blu-ray with all the bonus features later this year.

 

[CelticPredator]

Sorry, I was just saying he looks kinda creepy, like a pedophile in that pic.

 

[terry78]

Who would rape Batman? Aside from Joker?

 

[Passdom]

It needs it's box office earnings equivalent in threads

I think there's plenty more Avatar talk coming up, specially when they release the collector's edition dvd and blu-ray with all the bonus features later this year.

They're also releasing a 300 page making of book that should be pretty cool.

I definitely can't wait for the Ultimate Edition blu-ray though, aside from the new footage, it should have a 2-3 hour making of doc, and hopefully plenty of commentaries and outtakes, etc.

 

[CelticPredator]

James Cameron...because he already did....(BO)

 

[Apollo]

Q/A
Why is there so many Avatar threads? celticpredator keeps on saying things.

 

[Kane52630]

It needs it's box office earnings equivalent in threads

I think there's plenty more Avatar talk coming up, specially when they release the collector's edition dvd and blu-ray with all the bonus features later this year.

They're also releasing a 300 page making of book that should be pretty cool.

I definitely can't wait for the Ultimate Edition blu-ray though, aside from the new footage, it should have a 2-3 hour making of doc, and hopefully plenty of commentaries and outtakes, etc.

yeah theres going to more Avatar for years to come until the squeal starts up

 

[CelticPredator]

Q/A
Why is there so many Avatar threads? celticpredator keeps on saying things.

Yes. I do say things.

 

[Bim]

They're also releasing a 300 page making of book that should be pretty cool.

Oh really? i didnt know that, cool

 

[CelticPredator]

So is the Earth stuff back in? Or what?

 

[Kane52630]

So is the Earth stuff back in? Or what?

most likely in the dvd/bluray thats coming out, he said there will be almost 20 mins of deleted scenes in it.

 

[CelticPredator]

Damn.....that was all I wanted to see for the re-release.

 

[Kane52630]

Damn.....that was all I wanted to see for the re-release.

well I dont know if they are or not but the earth scenes are like 5+ mins long and I doubt they will put it in this re-release since its only 9 mins of new stuff.

if you wanna read the earth scene here

Spoiler

AVATAR


Written by

James Cameron

THE SOUND OF DRUMS, from a great distance, growing louder.

FADE IN:

WE ARE FLYING through mist, a dimly glimpsed forest below.

VOICE (V.O.)
When I was lying there in the VA
hospital, with a big hole blown through
the middle of my life, I started having
these dreams of flying.

We are very low over the forest now, gliding fast, the drums
BUILDING to a PEAK --

VOICE (V.O.)
Sooner or later though, you always have
to wake up...
CUT TO:

EXT. CITY - NIGHT

A SCREECH OF BRAKES as a vehicle WIPES FRAME, revealing --

JAKE SULLY, a scarred and scruffy combat vet, sitting in a
beat up carbon-fiber wheelchair. At 22, his eyes are
hardened by the wisdom and wariness of one who has endured
pain beyond his years.

Jake stares upward at the levels of the city. MAGLEV TRAINS
WHOOSH overhead on elevated tracks, against a sky of garish
advertizing.

JAKE (V.O.)
They can fix a spinal, if you've got the
money. But not on vet benefits, not in
this economy.

The traffic light changes and Jake pushes forward with the
crowd, pumping the wheels of his chair. Most of the people
wear FILTER MASKS to protect them from the toxic air. In a
LONG LENS STACK it is a marching torrent of anonymous,
isolated souls.

INT. JAKE'S APARTMENT - NIGHT

The room is a tiny CUBICLE, prison cell meets 747 bathroom.
Narrow cot, wall-screen droning away in the B.G. --

PERKY NEWSCASTER
The Bengal tiger, extinct for over a
century, is making a comeback. These
cloned tiger cubs at the Beijing Zoo
are...

2.



Jake laboriously pulls his pants off -- rocking to one side,
pushing the fabric down past his hip, then rocking to the
other, and so on.

His legs are white and atrophied. Utterly useless. But his
arms are tattooed and powerfully muscled. A "Born Loser"
tattoo prominent on his shoulder.

JAKE (V.O.)
I became a Marine for the hardship. To
be hammered on the anvil of life. I told
myself I could pass any test a man can
pass.

Jake struggles with his pants a long time.
CUT TO:

INT. ROWDY BAR -- NIGHT

Not the kind of place you'd bring your mom.

We find Jake near the pool table, BALANCING his chair, front
wheels off the ground, while holding a tequila shot on his
forehead. ONLOOKERS, including some other disabled vets,
CLAP and WHOOP.

Jake grabs the glass, SLAMS down the shot as they cheer.

A WALL-SIZED SCREEN filled with the World Cup game -- men
RUNNING on antelope legs.

CU JAKE, watching what he can't have. Expression stony.

JAKE (V.O.)
Let's get it straight up front. I don't
want your pity. I know the world's a
cold-ass *****.

Jake's eyes shift -- HIS POV, seeing the bar through gaps in
the crowd. A MAN on a barstool SLAPS the WOMAN he's with.
Hard. She cowers but he's got her arm, shouting, raising his
fist. An eternal tableau. People look away.

CU JAKE -- not looking away.

JAKE (V.O.)
You want a fair deal, you're on the wrong
planet. The strong prey on the weak.

TIGHT ON JAKE'S HAND as he starts pushing the wheel of his
chair.

TRACKING WITH HIM as he rolls forward.

3.



JAKE (V.O.)
It's just the way things are. And nobody
does a damn thing.

Jake stops, unnoticed, next to the bullying man. He leans
down and grabs one leg of the man's barstool -- and YANKS.

The chair flips. The guy goes down HARD and --

JAKE hurls himself from the wheelchair, toppling on the guy,
getting a grip on him like a pit bull and PUNCHING the crap
out of him, right there on the floor.

THE BOUNCER jumps in, trying to drag him off and it goes into
SLOW MOTION, everybody yelling and pulling...

JAKE (V.O.)
All I ever wanted in my sorry-ass life
was a single thing worth fighting for.
CUT TO:

EXT. ALLEY BEHIND BAR -- NIGHT

THE BOUNCER hurls Jake out the door, sending him SPRAWLING on
the pavement. A moment later, his chair CRASHES down on him,
banging across the alley, landing in the trash.

Jake struggles to rise on one elbow. He's bleeding and
bruised, but still crazed and ready to fight.

JAKE
I hope you realize you've just lost a
customer!

He collapses onto his back, panting.

JAKE
(to himself)
Candy ass *****.

He stares upwards at the levels of the city. MAGTRAINS ROAR
overhead. It starts to RAIN. He just lies there, blinking --
then shouts jauntily to no one in particular --

JAKE
If it ain't rainin' we ain't trainin'!

CAMERA PULLS BACK high and wide, as Jake lies spread-eagled
amongst the trash, getting drenched.

TWO LONG SHADOWS enter FRAME, coming to rest across him.

4.



Jake sees two pairs of SHINY SHOES stop next to him. He
squints up at --

TWO MEN. Matching suits. Their features unremarkable and
blandly threatening in the way of FBI agents and auditors.

AGENT 1
Are you Jake Sully?

JAKE
Step off. You're ruinin' my good mood.

AGENT 2
It's about your brother.
CUT TO:

INT. MUNICIPAL CREMATORIUM - NIGHT

DOWN-ANGLE on a large rectangular cardboard box. HANDS ENTER
FRAME, pulling open the top to reveal a DEAD MAN'S FACE. He
looks EXACTLY like a clean-shaven version of Jake. His
IDENTICAL TWIN -- TOMMY.

JAKE (V.O.)
The strong prey on the weak. A guy with
a knife took all Tommy would ever be, for
the paper in his wallet.

WIDER, showing Jake and the two agents in a high tech
CREMATORIUM -- a row of stainless steel furnaces. Jake
stares down at his own face.

JAKE
Jesus, Tommy.

JAKE (V.O.)
The Suits' concern was touching.

AGENT 1
Your brother represented a significant
investment. We'd like to talk to you
about taking over his contract.

The ATTENDANT closes the box and seals it with a tape
dispenser, like it's a package for shipping. The cardboard
coffin is rolled into the furnace.

JAKE (V.O.)
The egghead and the jarhead. Tommy was
the scientist, not me. He was the one
who wanted to get shot light years out
into space to find the answers.

5.



PUSHING IN ON JAKE as he watches, bathed in orange light.

JAKE (V.O.)
Me -- I was just another dumb grunt
gettin' sent someplace I was gonna
regret.

INSIDE THE FURNACE the burners quickly eat away the
cardboard; TOMMY'S FACE is, for a moment, wreathed in flame
but not touched by it, as we --
DISSOLVE TO:

JAKE'S FACE, in icy darkness. CLOSE ON his eyes -- they OPEN
suddenly, and he takes a sharp breath.

JAKE'S POV -- the inside of a metal coffin. A SERVO WHINE
and we are moving, emerging into a large chamber --

 

[Tacit Ronin]

you mean we should talk about a movie that requires a train load of exposition, can't be bothered to flesh out its secondary characters and delivers a movie completely different from it's trailer?

Yes it should have had a 3 and a half minute trailer that is basically a condensed version of the movie.

 

[DorkyFresh]

WOW! Dances with Smurfs gets 4 threads. Why don't you guys do something more productive, like talk about the plot intricacies of INCEPTION?

I'm surpised so many of you are mesmerized by someone dangling shiny keys in your face

lol, as if doing anything on these boards is actually PRODUCTIVE!!! bwaahhahahaha!!!

To my knowlegde at least , ALL the live action footage was shot with the 3d cameras. All the mo-cap stuff was rendered in stereoscopic 3d from the start. So i really wanna know how Johnston is coming with this info.

actually...75% of all statistics are made up on the spot

respect to Johnson because he's made a couple of solid movies, but i'm not sure he knew what he was talking about when he made that comment about 30 to 35% of the footage being converted. we know FOR SURE that all of the CG would be rendered in 3D and it would be asinine for Cameron to have developed the 3D camera system just so he could shoot a portion of the movie in 2D. it really sounds like he made up figures to back up his argument. i have no doubt that conversion techniques are getting better...but it's still not ideal. he shouldn't be detracting the achievements of other films in order to promote his own. bad form, Joe, bad form!

 

[Man in the Suit]

Cameron should have made the movie shorter for the re-release. It would have been better. Nothing happens in the first 45 minutes other than Giovanni Ribisi & Stephen Lang overacting and Worthington trying to act.

Boring.

 

[CelticPredator]

Ok...is it me, or would that scene have made the movie BETTER.....now with all that, the movie has more character, more story. I like Jake now because of that scene.

I will never watch this movie again until THAT scene is intergrated back in.

 

[DorkyFresh]

i agree...that scene would've added some much needed context into Jake's story. we don't really understand the gravity of his journey because we only get a condensed version of the circumstances that lead him to want to goto Pandora in the first place.

however, incorporating the Earth scenes into the movie would've just been business suicide. LotR was able to get away with 3 hour run times because people knew those movies were going to be long and it became part of the brand. on the other hand, the average movie goer never even heard of Avatar and if you told them that the movie would be approaching 3 hours you run the risk of turning them off to sitting in the theater. those scenes will be awesome to watch on the special edition blu-ray though.......whenever the hell that's coming out.

 

[CelticPredator]

Take in the earth, cut down Grace's death. That was the most boring scene in the movie. I actually fast forward that when I watched the Blu Ray, and took a stroll through the theater when I saw it for a second time.

 

[Monsieur Xavier]

Take in the earth, cut down Grace's death. That was the most boring scene in the movie. I actually fast forward that when I watched the Blu Ray, and took a stroll through the theater when I saw it for a second time.

See they are still stuff to talk about Avatar
I am neither fan of the Na'vi singing to mother Eywa but Grace death is a key element because she is one of the reason Eywa help the Na'vi against the RDA ( the mining company ).