Jay-Z

I've been known to listen to Hammer from time to time.
 
The Joker said:
I like anything that doesnt suck...I can go from Beethoven to The Ramones to Motorhead to the Beastie Boys with no pause in between...Jay Z simply sucks vast amounts of ass

But do you like hip-hop, since it seems like you're an expert on it.
 
Merkel said:
You can't spell "crap" without "rap"

how mature. i could say, "you can't spell crock without rock", but i don't. cause i like rock, and even if i didn't, i would still respect the genre. i don't like country, reggae, or go-go, but i let them be.

to The Joker, just cuz you don't like Jay-Z doesn't mean he sucks. When someone says sucks, that is a measure of talent, not how much one likes him. if you don't like him, that's fine, nobody can make you like or listen to anyone. but to say he has no talent--especially jay-z--is ludicris (sp?). a lot of people don't like eminem, but to say he has no talent has no merit. i don't really like krs-one, but i acknowledge his skills. i just can't get into his stuff.

you probably have legit reasons for disliking jay-z and his music, but one of them shouldn't be that "he sucks".
 
frodawgg said:
how mature. i could say, "you can't spell crock without rock", but i don't. cause i like rock, and even if i didn't, i would still respect the genre. i don't like country, reggae, or go-go, but i let them be.

to The Joker, just cuz you don't like Jay-Z doesn't mean he sucks. When someone says sucks, that is a measure of talent, not how much one likes him. if you don't like him, that's fine, nobody can make you like or listen to anyone. but to say he has no talent--especially jay-z--is ludicris (sp?). a lot of people don't like eminem, but to say he has no talent has no merit. i don't really like krs-one, but i acknowledge his skills. i just can't get into his stuff.

you probably have legit reasons for disliking jay-z and his music, but one of them shouldn't be that "he sucks".
All of what you're disputing is a matter of the posters' opinions. For example, in The Joker's opinion, Jay-Z sucks. The man is free to think what he wants and criticize the rapper's music as he sees fit.
 
^^^i am no way disputing his opinion. i am saying that the term "sucks" relates to quality of talent rather than if he likes him or not. i totally dislike michael jordan, but i am not blind to see that he's a great basketball player. i don't disregard talent due to bias.
 
Oy. How about I phrase it a bit differently: In MY opinion, Jay-Z does not have talent, and therefore sucks.

Understand yet?
 
It's really immature to say that something you don't like sucks. Especially since it seems like The Joker doesn't listen to Hip-Hop, or doesn't understand it. What about all the people that enjoy his work, do they suck also?
 
Spike_x1 said:
Oy. How about I phrase it a bit differently: In MY opinion, Jay-Z does not have talent, and therefore sucks.

Understand yet?

How about
I don't like Jay- Z's music
 
So let me get this straight... people aren't allowed to have their own opinions anymore? I did not insult you or anyone else. I merely stated my opinion about this person's music. If you're going to cry about one man's mere opinion (which is everyone's God-given right to say, as long as it does not hurt anyone), especially on something as trivial as music, then you should probably just lock yourself in a room somewhere and ignore the world for the rest of your life, because whether you like it or not, no one will ever share your point of view on everything.

I'll state it a final time: In my opinion, Jay-Z sucks. If you cannot accept the fact that myself and others are capable of judging and forming a criticism of his music for ourselves, then I actually do pity you.
 
Spike_x1 said:
So let me get this straight... people aren't allowed to have their own opinions anymore? I did not insult you or anyone else. I merely stated my opinion about this person's music. If you're going to cry about one man's mere opinion (which is everyone's God-given right to say, as long as it does not hurt anyone), especially on something as trivial as music, then you should probably just lock yourself in a room somewhere and ignore the world for the rest of your life, because whether you like it or not, no one will ever share your point of view on everything.

I'll state it a final time: In my opinion, Jay-Z sucks. If you cannot accept the fact that myself and others are capable of judging and forming a criticism of his music for ourselves, then I actually do pity you.

No on gives a **** if you like him or not, just realize that if you go around talking like that in the real world no on will take your opinon seriously.

Grow up man
 
There's nothing trivial to music. It's the supreme art form.
 
Punch said:
No on gives a **** if you like him or not, just realize that if you go around talking like that in the real world no on will take your opinon seriously.

Grow up man
Oh yes, because I honestly care about what people think when I say some rapper's music sucks :rolleyes:. It's my opinion and I'll express it how I see fit. Accept my methods of expression and then take a walk out in the real world where people are allowed to speak freely. Crazy idea, I know, but give it a shot.
 
The Joker said:
it would still fit in more at the Superman forums, seeing as he said it was more about Superman and all...although none of this changes the fact that Jay Z sucks...oh wait, I forgot, he sampled "hard knock life" from little orphan annie in one of his songs, he must be a f**king genius :rolleyes:

1. You're right. I guess I just feel more at home in the bat forums.
2. I think you're wrong about Jay.
3. Your sarcasm is on point, and Hard Knock Life does indeed suck.
 
Aw ****. I done started something:ninja:

But Punch, I think the Grimm thing is an autobiography.
 
It's not a term exclusive to comics. Haven't you ever heard the phrase "from here to kingdom come" (or some such variation)?
 
KingOfDreams said:
It's not a term exclusive to comics. Haven't you ever heard the phrase "from here to kingdom come" (or some such variation)?

yeah but IBN posted the source stating that the album title was inspired by the comic.(sorry I missed it the first time also, IBN, gee whiz:yay:)
 
Punch said:
yeah but IBN posted the source stating that the album title was inspired by the comic.(sorry I missed it the first time also, IBN, gee whiz:yay:)

Sorry about the sarcasm Punch. I got nothin but love for all ma true HHheads. But go easy on him though:woot: , cause he didn't read my ****. Although I do gotta say, it was kinda late in the game for him to be blind to the facts< (Yeah I'm slick as ****). I heard there was already a song called Bruce Wayne though. Anybody know by who?
 
Spike_x1 said:
So let me get this straight... people aren't allowed to have their own opinions anymore? I did not insult you or anyone else. I merely stated my opinion about this person's music. If you're going to cry about one man's mere opinion (which is everyone's God-given right to say, as long as it does not hurt anyone), especially on something as trivial as music, then you should probably just lock yourself in a room somewhere and ignore the world for the rest of your life, because whether you like it or not, no one will ever share your point of view on everything.

I'll state it a final time: In my opinion, Jay-Z sucks. If you cannot accept the fact that myself and others are capable of judging and forming a criticism of his music for ourselves, then I actually do pity you.

Nobody said that you cannot have your own opinion. I don't--and I don't think anyone else--have beef with you not liking Jay-Z; that's cool. I'm just saying that you should use proper terminology and ways of saying it. Like someone else said, just say something like, "i don't like Jay-Z" or "I don't like his (style of) music". That's all. Oh, nevermind.
 
Hip hop is great, to bad some dont like it but its all opinion. Jay Z is a great at what he does.
 
frodawgg said:
Nobody said that you cannot have your own opinion. I don't--and I don't think anyone else--have beef with you not liking Jay-Z; that's cool. I'm just saying that you should use proper terminology and ways of saying it. Like someone else said, just say something like, "i don't like Jay-Z" or "I don't like his (style of) music". That's all. Oh, nevermind.
I'm not even going to bother anymore. :rolleyes:
 
I do listen to rap/hip-hop. I've been a fan of Dre and Snoop for a long time, and I enjoy Eminems first 2 albums. I also listen to some local hip-hop, such as Nuisance Crew and Soulcrate Music. Even if I didn't though, I still have every right to say Jay Z sucks, in my opinion. I don't listen to opera, cause I think it sucks. So I can therefore say "the three tenors suck" because I feel all opera sucks. Same goes for rap if I indeed didn't listen to it. You don't have to be an expert on something to dislike it.
 
Everybody check out the first track on Lupe Fiasco's album. The majority of the first verse is Batman related (bastard stole my idea though).
 

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