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BvS Jesse Eisenberg IS Lex Luthor - - Part 11

You know Jim Carrey should be getting paid for the Riddler since recently actors have been copying his performance in comic book films.

Eisenberg was one of the very few things I was optimistic about. But Eisenberg was horrible. Just God awful. His quivering lip did the acting for him.

I'm glad Cranston didn't do this. He would have been ****ing wasted. Better Eisenberg was in a ****** movie with a ****** performance.
 
I was dreading Eisenberg's Luthor, but I was pleasantly surprised. He ended up being one of the best parts of the movie for me.
 
For years, people have been asking for this Lex in live action:

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And instead we got little Eisenberg playing a more laughable version of Carrey's Riddler. Luthor seems like a character destined to be screwed up on the big screen.
 
Yea, after seeing this take fully I see why he's not very Lex Luthor at all to some. And this take was pretty meh and I was so looking forward to it.
 
The Riddler is a great comparison because that's exactly what I was thinking during the movie. I absolutely hated Lexenberg.....
 
Snyder should have left Eisenberg as Jimmy olsen. At least he only be in the movie for a minute then lol.
 
So much original thinking in here.

"I know! I'll cleverly compare him to The Joker or The Riddler!"
 
Snyder should have left Eisenberg as Jimmy olsen. At least he only be in the movie for a minute then lol.

Making a Jimmy Olsen actor into your Lex actor shows a complete misunderstanding of all the Superman characters. Snyder doesn't get Superman at all.

Loved this Comicbookcast commentary on how miscast and terrible Eisenberg's "Lex" is:

https://youtu.be/MPOAekjv5N8?t=247
 
I guess I can sorta see the comparisons to Riddler, but only in the physical sense of a gangly genius who's occasionally manic.

Pass the surface, the character is most assuredly a Luthor. Maybe not the Luthor you're used to, but I could never confuse him for any other popular villain.
 
...And I still really liked him, and thought he was a perfect Lex, especially as far as his danger-level goes, and as far as his motivation.

I think he definetly needed a quieter, more memorable villainous turn of a phrase; I think that, oddly enough, might be the one area where Goyer might be a better dialogue writer than Terrio. Because I can quote just about every Goyer villain; villainous monologues are just about the only type of writing that actually go perfectly fine with over-dramatic and unrealistic speech styles.

The one line that I think could have been made a bit slower and more foreboding would be the one about how "God is either not good, or dead." It does encapsulate what I think makes Lex such a good villain, because in the context of Eisenberg's portrayal of the character and the scene, it's clear he has an irrational, emotional reason to hate Superman, one that he tries to rationalize but can't quite do so logically. It's kind of the great tragic element of the character; he's lashing out, just like Batman, but Batman at least is doing so in a vaguely constructive way, while Lex is engaging in a Sisyphean struggle that's ultimately counterproductive to what vague ideals he does have.

I did love two great, quick little scenes, that I think encapsulate Lex's cunning and manipulative nature in a way that I think does make him a better anatagonist than other villains: the smile he gave when he discovered his kryptonite was gone, making it clear that his plans were far enough along it didn't really matter who had the kryptonite, and (this is one I'll have to watch for on my next viewing) a smile he gave when Superman saved him from Doomsday. They both show a guy who, to use Tv Tropes language, may not quite qualify as a Magnifiecent Bastard, but is definetly a Diabolical Mastermind and Manipulative Bastard.
 
I walked away enjoying Jesse's performance a lot more than I expected to. I know most wanted him to be more straightforward serious but I liked what he gave...a brilliant man who was obviously unhinged & barely keeping it together.
 
I guess I can sorta see the comparisons to Riddler, but only in the physical sense of a gangly genius who's occasionally manic.

Pass the surface, the character is most assuredly a Luthor. Maybe not the Luthor you're used to, but I could never confuse him for any other popular villain.

Yeah, this. I enjoyed his performance. And honestly, they needed a somewhat flamboyant villain to counteract Batman and Superman, who are more straight-edged characters.
 
For years, people have been asking for this Lex in live action:

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And instead we got little Eisenberg playing a more laughable version of Carrey's Riddler. Luthor seems like a character destined to be screwed up on the big screen.

I'm confident we'll get this in the DCEU. I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt as I see them evolving him as we go along in the DCEU. I think there's a good foundation for the character as his plan and motivation was very Luthoresque.
 
I don't get it. You'd think the villain should be more serious. Not in this film's terms, but the heroes would be more lighthearted if anything by the conventions of storytelling.
 
I'm confident we'll get this in the DCEU. I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt as I see them evolving him as we go along in the DCEU. I think there's a good foundation for the character as his plan and motivation was very Luthoresque.

Uh. No there isn't.

Not with Eisenberg. He's incapable of playing the suave, threatening and calculating alpha Lex.

Eisenberg can only play weasely neurotic fast-talking nerds. He's a terrible miscast.
 
Terrible, damn I'm sad. Too bad we'll never get that cold calculating evil businessman Lex we've all wanted.

S1-S4 with some moments from S5/6/7 Lex from Smallville is still the best.
 
Uh. No there isn't.

Not with Eisenberg. He's incapable of playing the suave, threatening and calculating alpha Lex.

Eisenberg can only play weasely neurotic fast-talking nerds. He's a terrible miscast.

Unless they play the whole "prison changed me!" card.
 
I originally just thought "Meh,whatever" after walking out, in regards to his Lex, but after thinking about it...I hated it. The only thing I thought was good was the grandma's tea thing.
 
I'm confident we'll get this in the DCEU. I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt as I see them evolving him as we go along in the DCEU. I think there's a good foundation for the character as his plan and motivation was very Luthoresque.

Umm, no it wasn't. His motivation seemed to be little more than daddy issues (at least he ended every bit of dialogue with an anecdote about his father). As for his "plan", I'm honestly not quite sure what it was. Release Doomsday, kidnap a couple of women (and just let one of them, who happens to be a Pulitzer Price winning journalist who has incriminating evidence on you, walk away)...and then what? Let Doomsday kill the only person who could stop it? He clearly couldn't control Doomsday as its first action was to try and kill Lex. What exactly was Lex's end game? His plan made less sense than creating an island out of Kryptonite.
 
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Umm, no it wasn't. His motivation seemed to be little more than daddy issues (at least he ended every bit of dialogue with an anecdote about his father). As for his "plan", I'm honestly not quite sure what it was. Release Doomsday, kidnap a couple of women (and just let one of them who happens to be a Pulitzer Price winning journalist who has incriminating evidence on you walk away)...and then what? Let it kill the only person who could stop it? He clearly couldn't control Doomsday as its first action was to try and kill Lex. What exactly was Lex's end game? His plan made less sense than creating an island out of Kryptonite.
Then he tries to frame Superman for the deaths in Africa, yet no one bothered to ask why Superman would shoot people. And Lex for some reason gave them prototype ammunition easily traceable back to him.

And he encourages McNairy to confront Superman in open court, having planted a bomb in his wheelchair. The obvious assumption here is that Lex was counting on the blast killing everyone inside, so blame could be shifted towards Superman. But nope. The very next scene, McNairy is named the sole suspect. So what exactly was he point of that explosion? An elaborate way to fire an assistant I guess.

Lex Luthor is a sociopath, even a lunatic at times, but he is also hyper intelligent. This Lex is just plain nuts.
 
I was dreading Eisenberg's Luthor, but I was pleasantly surprised. He ended up being one of the best parts of the movie for me.

same. what doubly surprised me was, i wasn't jazzed about the casting, put those reservations aside as i think he's a genuine talent, then the trailers hit and i returned to believing it was a mistake, but i found his performance arguably the best of the lot.
 

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