BvS Jesse Eisenberg IS Lex Luthor - - Part 11

[K-Rayner05]

I would have been fine with Jesse, if he just toned down his performance. It was so over the top to the point where it became embarrassing. I believe he can do a menacing Lex, this wasn't it though.

 

[DaddlerTheDalek]

I would have been fine with Jesse, if he just toned down his performance. It was so over the top to the point where it became embarrassing. I believe he can do a menacing Lex, this wasn't it though.

I think he can do a menacing Lex, but it was too over the top. I hope they learned from this.

 

[shauner111]

He should have been the Riddler.

 

[Leenie]

Jesse Eisenberg was horrible in the movie. One of the worst performances I've seen in a comic book movie, to be quite honest. Arnold's Mr. Freeze made me cringe less.

Eisenberg was completely miscast, and he completely sucked. I have no idea what WB was thinking when they cast him.

The Razzie was well-deserved.

 

[Scarlet Spider]

Casting Jesse Eisenberg in this role has got to be one of the biggest casting blunders in a superhero film, ever. Regardless of script or direction. I still remember the day his casting broke on this forum...

I honestly thought we were being trolled by someone.

Either way, Congratulations on the Razzie win! Well deserved!

 

[marcvader]

It wasn't just writing. He needs to tone down his typical Jesse Eisenberg mannerisms, they were in full effect. Can you guys imagine a scene between Luthor and Joker? It'd be a spectacle for all the wrong reasons.

 

[Hammer!]

It wasn't just writing. He needs to tone down his typical Jesse Eisenberg mannerisms, they were in full effect. Can you guys imagine a scene between Luthor and Joker? It'd be a spectacle for all the wrong reasons.

Love to see a movie where Eisen-Lex and Let-oker team up Tommy Lee Jones/Jim Carrey style and deliver the biggest ham-fest in history. Especially contrasted to the morose tone of all the DC heroes so far.t:

 

[PeterBenParker]

He should have been the Riddler.

I wish he was just an OC.

I have a soft spot for Carrey's Riddler but no way would I want a villain to the levels of Jesse's Lex again.

 

[batfreakforever]

They were never going with a Lex that we had seen before in movies or even the comic books.

They wanted a social network type which is why they got Jessie too play him. Yes they wanted he for Olsen but he fit the Lex they were going for too.
You could say in a way that they nailed what they were going for.

I hate him and that works. You want Superman or Batman to hurt him even more now because its Jessie. It works for me. He is returning for Justice League and he is the Lex of this universe.
For better or worse. Thats how it is.

 

[The Joker]

It was for worse.

 

[shauner111]

They were never going with a Lex that we had seen before in movies or even the comic books.

They wanted a social network type which is why they got Jessie too play him. Yes they wanted he for Olsen but he fit the Lex they were going for too.
You could say in a way that they nailed what they were going for.

I hate him and that works. You want Superman or Batman to hurt him even more now because its Jessie. It works for me. He is returning for Justice League and he is the Lex of this universe.
For better or worse. Thats how it is.

I don't buy this for a second.

Not only did they offer the part to Joaquin Phoenix (a 40 year old man who turned it down), and were looking at the usual suspects like Bryan Cranston (a 60 year old man), Zack originally envisioned Lex as Brad Pitt meets Richard Branson. None of this makes me think of a young Social Network type who also happens to be completely whacko.

It's obvious to me that changes were made late in the game and they probably retooled the character to fit Eisenberg instead of the other way around.

 

[Ultimate Movie-Man]

I would have been fine with Jesse, if he just toned down his performance. It was so over the top to the point where it became embarrassing. I believe he can do a menacing Lex, this wasn't it though.

I dunno, man, this is the first time I felt scared by Lex Luthor. All the other times he just seemed like a weird bald dude with money. Eisenberg was a weird millennial with an inferiority complex yet the power to manipulate the World's Finest.

I certainly wouldn't want to ever meet his Lex. Spacey and Hackman though their Lexs are easily dealt with with witty repartee.

 

[Wildcard]

Michael Rosenbaum, imo, is the most intimidating Lex Luthor there's been. He was as nuanced as could be & very unpredictable because you never knew how far he'd go and when he was lying or telling the truth.

With Jesse, he needed to turn it down because he was way too all over the place. In addition to that, he talks way too much. I remember both times I went to see BvS, each time an audience member shouted out "why the **** is he still talking?" And they're right, he just drones on and on and on.

 

[Paradox1]

Michael Rosenbaum, imo, is the most intimidating Lex Luthor there's been. He was as nuanced as could be & very unpredictable because you never knew how far he'd go and when he was lying or telling the truth.

With Jesse, he needed to turn it down because he was way too all over the place. In addition to that, he talks way too much. I remember both times I went to see BvS, each time an audience member shouted out "why the **** is he still talking?" And they're right, he just drones on and on and on.

I never saw all of Smallville so I don't know how it turned out. From what I know there were parts of Smallville's Lex that I enjoyed. Never however, did I find myself saying he's scary.

 

[Rodrigo90]

By season 6, Lex had started to become more darker and menacing. His frequent bouts of instability, and his cool and calculated, often surprising plotting, made him quite frightening.

 

[Wildcard]

Indeed. The Lex Luthor of Smallville, by season six, could certainly qualify as scary. Far more so than Eisenberg's over-the-top portrayal. The problem is that whereas Rosenbaum's Luthor says only what's necessary and nothing more, Jesse's Luthor says a whole bunch of nothing. He always monologues and there's no real point to it...and if there is, he rambles on so long that you don't even give a damn by the time he gets to whatever point he's trying to make.

 

[HammerDown]

Since the poll was already closed. I hated it.

The thing that by far bothered me the most was Jesse Eisenberg as Luthor. Completely missed the mark. Every scene he was in made me enjoy the movie less. He was so over the top and cooking his performance so much.

The twitching, the voice, the "candy scene", the "prison scene"... For me it was just horrible.

P.S - I thought the guy on Smallville was 100 times better. Calm and collected but menacing at the same time.

 

[Rodrigo90]

Indeed. The Lex Luthor of Smallville, by season six, could certainly qualify as scary. Far more so than Eisenberg's over-the-top portrayal. The problem is that whereas Rosenbaum's Luthor says only what's necessary and nothing more, Jesse's Luthor says a whole bunch of nothing. He always monologues and there's no real point to it...and if there is, he rambles on so long that you don't even give a damn by the time he gets to whatever point he's trying to make.

In Season 5 he was edging closer to the darker realms, but you always got the sense that everything he was doing was because he believed it was the right thing, no matter warped.
By Season 6, he didn't care about getting his hands dirty anymore, nor did he care who he hurt. His deviousness by manipulating Lana and the pregnancy was also pretty sick, and I mean completely shocking.
And by Season 7, as we know, he went full on dark side, but with that maintained justification that everything he did was for the benefit of mankind, completely overlooking his own selfish desire for ultimate control. By being the villain, he thought he could've been herald as the hero by saving the world.
Season 10, he developed clones to ensure his supposed destiny of being humankind's champion could survive.

He was a sick, twisted, evil and scary bastard, and for that reason, playing with so many different layers of the character, Rosenbaum remains the best onscreen Lex Luthor. There's no one else who can compare to that.

Eisneberg... The only thing about him that scared me was popping his cherry into the guy's mouth.

 

[HammerDown]

Eisneberg... The only thing about him that scared me was popping his cherry into the guy's mouth.

Man that was so weird.

 

[Rodrigo90]

Man that was so weird.

I think the intention was to make us LOL, but all any of us did was laugh uncomfortably... which soon, upon rewatching, just makes us cringe.

What were they thinking doing that?

 

[Wildcard]

I absolutely detest scenes like that. It's so pointless, and with a movie that is already pretty hefty, it could've been cut and wouldn't have hurt anything. But, by keeping it, it just makes Eisenberg's Lex look even more like a tool than he naturally does.

 

[2kt09]

I think the intention was to make us LOL, but all any of us did was laugh uncomfortably... which soon, upon rewatching, just makes us cringe.

What were they thinking doing that?

LOL?...nah, it seemed fairly and genuinely trying to make you feel this way

 

[Rodrigo90]

LOL?...nah, it seemed fairly and genuinely trying to make you feel this way

Honestly, I don't know what the hell they were trying to do

Make us laugh, make us uncomfortable, have us believe Lex is gay in some way, convince us it was his way of exerting power and control over a powerful senator...
It was just a poor decision to have made

 

[Wildcard]

Well, poor decision making is Snyder's strong suite.

 

[Rodrigo90]

How could you say such a thing?!!!