BvS Jesse Eisenberg IS Lex Luthor - Part 4

[Jake Cassidy]

I'm an Aussie and I'll admit. American Football is a lot more dangerous than Aussie Rules.

Whose side are you on? t:

 

[Steamteck]

Clancy Brown approves. Now everyone else can shut the **** up. t:

Actually it strangely puts me a little less at ill ease. On the surface though its still a super awful choice. Snyder's castings though have been pretty solid so with Clancy's endorsement ( which might just be being nice you never know) has me a little less agitated.

 

[Jake Cassidy]

Crap...sorry you're right. You cry.



Superbowl IV had three players with one leg, and one with no head who made the tackle for the winning safety. When a Chiefs RB was sidelined with a ruptured spleen...coach Stram challenged him by asking "...what are you, Australian or something?", motivating him back onto the field.

 

[Jake Cassidy]

You guys make some good actors, though.










But it's kinda' cheating, since they already spend their normal lives pretending to be British.....

Only the ones who were born in Britain. t:

 

[Jake Cassidy]

Or the ones trying to get jobs.




(actually...they're the ones who play Americans )

Like Wolverine and Thor? t:

 

[Uroboric Forms]

Being English is great- everybody automatically hates you just because of what you are, so it gives you a lifelong licence for apathy.

It's like having a license for cynicism

 

[Jake Cassidy]

Wolverine and Thor aren't American.

That was the ****ing joke.

 

[Jake Cassidy]

And Joker (RIP), and at least half the stuff Crowe and Pearce are in, and....Kidman, and Watts, and....

Ironically, other than Ledger, none of them were born in Australia.

 

[Jake Cassidy]

They might as well be.....



Really? Wow.

Mel Gibson, too? Born in New York, I think...then moved to Australia or something.

Crowe - New Zealand
Pearce - England
Watts - England
Kidman - Hawaii
Weaving - South Africa
Worthington - England

They all consider themselves Australian, which is cool.

It's good for us. If they do something ****ed up, like Gibson, we can give them back. t:

 

[Jake Cassidy]

Bana...where's he from...NZ too?

Australia

 

[Lobo]

You have Yvonne Strahovski that's a gift to the world

 

[Jake Cassidy]

and Margot Robbie

 

[Lobo]

and Margot Robbie

She's a gift to all worlds!

 

[Wise]

Wolverine was Australian in the pilot for the X-Men animated series back in the 90's. It was so weird lol.

Almost prophetic considering Jackman is associated with that role now.

 

[Steelsheen]

*comes in late*

i'm not sold on Eissenberg as Lex. well not yet

 

[TheNextNolan22]

and Margot Robbie

Now that's a gift that the world needs more of! t:

 

[Afrobean]

I hope they don't make it that Lex and Clark knew each other back in Smallville. Since Jesse and Henry are the same age.

It worked well enough on Smallville, and I like the idea in general, but I agree. If they had planned it out a little better, we could have had a continuity nod of young Lex appearing in a class with Clark during all of the Smallville flashbacks in the first movie, but now it'd just be retroactive continuity, and that's not really needed.

 

[Jekecy]

Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. There are several years of Clark's life completely unbeknownst to us. Lex can easily be injected in without continuity issues.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

It worked well enough on Smallville, and I like the idea in general, but I agree. If they had planned it out a little better, we could have had a continuity nod of young Lex appearing in a class with Clark during all of the Smallville flashbacks in the first movie, but now it'd just be retroactive continuity, and that's not really needed.

To me, in many ways despite what are often direct influences of Birthright or SECRET ORIGIN, MOS was tonally and in other ways like the Byrne/Carlin era of books to me. As such, I think the whole "Clark and Lex knew each other as kids and are destined to still be enemies" schtick is not going to happen, and for myself, if so, I say "Bravo". I think that I have had enough "the villain and the hero have a deep connection/shared origin" stories to last a lifetime. LITERALLY. Can't Supes be opposed to Luthor without the personal backstory of either intertwining?

 

[matt47]

and I never bought that Lex would go the the same school as Clark, wouldn't he go to an expensive private school?

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

and I never bought that Lex would go the the same school as Clark, wouldn't he go to an expensive private school?

I'll go you one better... They shouldn't be in even the same STATE as each other during their respective formative years. Again... I don't see how the "tragic" friendship angle adds much. If there is tragedy in their hero/villain relationship the way Morrison presented it at the end of ALL STAR is all I need to know.

LEX LUTHOR: If it weren't for you, I could've saved the world!!

SUPERMAN: Luthor... you could've saved the world a long time ago... If it had mattered to you.

There's little need for soap operatic melodrama to add anything at all. But that's my druthers.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

So in the comics, where Luthor and Clark knew eachother growing up...does Luthor recognize both Clark and Supes as the same person? Or does he not remember Clark?

I'd say in the silver age they don't ever give you anything close to an answer. There may be a Superboy comic or two out there that does, but even if it did it probably would be the usual Silver age overly convoluted mess that led to COIE any way, I'd guess.

Once Byrne did the reboot he went back to the golden age take, right down to Luthor having red hair and then losing it (he shaves it because he's balding) and he and Superman meeting as adults. He's a megalomaniac who runs afoul of Superman who succeeds in actually sending Luthor to jail, for a brief, brief time. When he gets out Luthor basically says "That's not happening again alien. People think you're invulnerable? That you can't be beaten? You will be and it will be by my hand." Later he realizes that the only person that can ever truly stand in his way is Superman.

On a side note they actually take the secret ID thing head on in the Byrne era books. Luthor is actually presented with hard data just outright proving that that milk sop reporter at the D.P. is Superman. He proceeds to fire the scientist that brought him the data. Luthor basically says that he understands power the way that scientist never can or will. In Luthor's mind there is no way a god-like being would ever pretend to be a normal person. Such a being would have to always be using his power thinks Luthor.

 

[TheNextNolan22]

Not sure if this was posted yet, but Clancy Brown gives his thoughts on Lexenberg.

I want to touch on your time playing Lex Luthor. Interestingly, you have played Lex Luthor longer than any other actor to fill the role. It's a pretty impressive feat. What about that character keeps you coming back to him?
He just translates so well through the years. He fits really well in the '50s and he fits really well in the '60s -- he's just an American icon, I think, in the same way that Superman is an American icon. But they're different sides of the same coin. As our society evolves, the characters evolve.

I'm dying to see the new one. I think Jesse Eisenberg is a great choice. I think he's a really sharp choice, and I know a lot of people don't agree with that, but I think he could be spectacular. I liked [Michael] Rosebaum's take on it, but that was kind of a WB show. But I just love the idea that the Facebook guy is Lex Luthor. That's just perfect. [Laughs]


What do you think it is about Eisenberg that you think makes him such a good fit for the role?
Well, he's a pretty specific actor. He's not a chameleon like [Gene] Hackman or [Kevin] Spacey. He has a similar smugness the way that Spacey does -- that highly-intelligent, super-smug, almost effeminate kind of smugness about him -- but he's way more current. I just watched "Now You See Me," which I thought he was terrific in. He has a really specific persona engrained that is super-smart. You don't necessarily like him, but you don't dislike him. You don't necessarily think he's a good, fun guy -- you see him as a real quirky, weird dude. You don't completely trust him, although he's kind of adorable in his nerdy way.

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=50875&utm_source=cbr&utm_medium=twitter

 

[Rorschach2012]

*comes in late*

i'm not sold on Eissenberg as Lex. well not yet

Neither was I for the first hour. I was pissed. Think about it more, watch more of his work, you'll be able to see envision it eventually.

 

[Rorschach2012]

Clancy Brown's opinion on Eisenberg's casting is pretty in depth and spot on. He's clearly given it a lot of thought. I agree with everything he said