JLA Snags A-List Producer; Shooting in Aus!?

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Whatever dude. I have seen him heavily attacked and we have spoken in IM about it.

And MOS is not further along, and we are not hearing anything about MOS like you guys keep claiming. All we are really hearing anything about is JLA. And no those other productions were. Batman year one had a script that was rejected. It was only in script form. Superman lives was the closest to what JLA is now. It got canned because of Batman and Robin. Flyby had a second script and designs and a costume design, but not more than that. And I believe that JLA is a lot farther along then we know right now. The studio and the heads are behind JLA. Only Singer and a few execs are behind MOS. But all indications is that JLA is a go.

Again, Man of Steel has a cast, a script that is pretty much getting tweaked like Justice League of America's, a crew that is willing to do it right when Valkrye is done. Justice League still needs to get a cast and crew finalized. Once it gets those things done, it'll be on par or even ahead, with Man of Steel's preparation.

Also you're wrong about Batman: Year One. It had a director, Darron Aronofsky. It had a script by Frank Miller and Aronofsky. It had storyboards. It was searching for someone to play as Batman. It got canned not because of Batman & Robin, Batman Triumphant fell apart because of that crap fest. It got canned because it simply fell apart.

Superman Flyby had two directors McG and Brett Ratner. They had several drafts of the script. They had producers. They had costume designs. They were casting. Again, it fell apart, mostly due to AICN's horrible review of the script by Abrams.

And there isn't universal support for this film. There are several factions that include those who want Man of Steel, those who want Justice League of America, and even those who want both. I'm not going to bet on either Justice League or Man of Steel simply because there's a good chance of me eating a whole lot of crow if one I bet on fell apart.

The thing is, JLA script is bought and paid for by WB. Mos is still just in development. They have not bought anything. And there is more movement on JLA then MOS. A hell of a lot more. Nothing is really being said at all about MOS. The only thing we are really hearing about is MOS. And, Miller has a good relationship with the WB. They are not going to let him start something that they are on the fence about. JLA will get made in the timeline they are saying. Trust me.
Again, there have been reports of Singer making the pitch. The cast has said that they are pretty much ready. It's been stated repeatedly that Man of Steel would be Singer's next film. And reports such as IESB have been saying that both films are preparing for an early 08 shoot in case one of them gets chosen.
 
If this movie happens, and Barrie M. Osborne allows Batman to be in it, but get recast, I won't forgive this production and I will lose all respect for it and Osborne.
 
Again, Man of Steel has a cast, a script that is pretty much getting tweaked like Justice League of America's, a crew that is willing to do it right when Valkrye is done. Justice League still needs to get a cast and crew finalized. Once it gets those things done, it'll be on par or even ahead, with Man of Steel's preparation.

Also you're wrong about Batman: Year One. It had a director, Darron Aronofsky. It had a script by Frank Miller and Aronofsky. It had storyboards. It was searching for someone to play as Batman. It got canned not because of Batman & Robin, Batman Triumphant fell apart because of that crap fest. It got canned because it simply fell apart.

Superman Flyby had two directors McG and Brett Ratner. They had several drafts of the script. They had producers. They had costume designs. They were casting. Again, it fell apart, mostly due to AICN's horrible review of the script by Abrams.

And there isn't universal support for this film. There are several factions that include those who want Man of Steel, those who want Justice League of America, and even those who want both. I'm not going to bet on either Justice League or Man of Steel simply because there's a good chance of me eating a whole lot of crow if one I bet on fell apart.


Again, there have been reports of Singer making the pitch. The cast has said that they are pretty much ready. It's been stated repeatedly that Man of Steel would be Singer's next film. And reports such as IESB have been saying that both films are preparing for an early 08 shoot in case one of them gets chosen.
Aranofsky's script didn't make it much past being handed in. It was too different from the mythos wiht Bruce being raised in a gas station and Al being the guy who owned the station, stabbing someones eye out. Even the WB stated in an old article they pased on it because it was too far off the mark. And after the leak, it was pretty much done.
Flyby fell apart because McG would not get on a plane. Even McG said that. The WB also said it in an article "had he gotten on that plane, we would have a film going now" Flyby with Ratner fell apart because he wanted Bomer and Peters wanted Brendan Fraser, and ended with I believe a fist fight. Miller can cast fast. He has done it in the past. MOS doesn't really have much support in the WB.
 
If this movie happens, and Barrie M. Osborne allows Batman to be in it, but get recast, I won't forgive this production and I will lose all respect for it and Osborne.

you know batman is going to be in it. You know it will be recast. You are setting yourself up for disappointment. Why not just accept it and see where it goes instead of being so closed minded that if/when it does come around you can enjoy it for what it is rather than something it was never going to be
 
Look at Superman Lives. It was to be directed by Tim Burton and had a script by Kevin Smith. It even had a cast (Nicholas Cage as Superman and Kevin Spacey as Lex Luthor) as well as Pittsburgh was set to be Metropolis. They eveb had a casting director her in Pittsbirgh that had hired extras ( I was one of them ). But something happened and it fell apart. But it took eight years to finally become Superman Returns and Spacey finally became Luthor. It would have been interesting to see Cage as Superman though.

superman_lives.jpg

it even had a teaser poster.
 
Look at Superman Lives. It was to be directed by Tim Burton and had a script by Kevin Smith. It even had a cast (Nicholas Cage as Superman and Kevin Spacey as Lex Luthor) as well as Pittsburgh was set to be Metropolis. They eveb had a casting director her in Pittsbirgh that had hired extras ( I was one of them ). But something happened and it fell apart. But it took eight years to finally become Superman Returns and Spacey finally became Luthor. It would have been interesting to see Cage as Superman though.

superman_lives.jpg

it even had a teaser poster.
It was called the Monday after the opening of Batman and Robin. But that is different. Also, the WB thought before hand that they could do what they and Burton planned to do with Superman Lives. As soon as Batman and Robin came out and they knew they couldn't, they scrapped the project real fast.

But this is different. They were getting flack everywhere for casting Nicolas Cage as Superman. It was on Access Hollywood. There was a huge online petition at the time to get Nicholas Cage off of the project.

JLA is something that Warner's wants. The only complaint people are making is that Batman is in it, and people want to see solo movies first for all the characters. They know solo movies are no guarantee for box office thanks to Sr, so they would rather get the introductions done in one movie.
 
If this movie happens, and Barrie M. Osborne allows Batman to be in it, but get recast, I won't forgive this production and I will lose all respect for it and Osborne.
The thing is they asked Bale before hand to do the movie he said no so they have to recast. The deal was if Bale said yes then Routh would have also been in JLA but since Bale said no and wanted to finish his Batman movies they are recasting both roles. That was the deal with Routh and Bale in order to see them in the movie you had to have both agree to do it not just one agree and the other turn it down. Now if Bale comes back say tomorrow or two weeks from now and says yes to the role the right then and there you have your Superman and Batman cast because they wanted both of them or neither of them.
 
It was called the Monday after the opening of Batman and Robin. But that is different. Also, the WB thought before hand that they could do what they and Burton planned to do with Superman Lives. As soon as Batman and Robin came out and they knew they couldn't, they scrapped the project real fast.

But this is different. They were getting flack everywhere for casting Nicolas Cage as Superman. It was on Access Hollywood. There was a huge online petition at the time to get Nicholas Cage off of the project.

JLA is something that Warner's wants. The only complaint people are making is that Batman is in it, and people want to see solo movies first for all the characters. They know solo movies are no guarantee for box office thanks to Sr, so they would rather get the introductions done in one movie.
Now there you are wrong there are not people just complaining because Batman is in it they are complaining because believe it or not some people like Bale and Routh and wanted to see not just Bale but Routh in the movie as well:wow:. Despite what you may think the general public did like Superman Returns and did like Routh or it wouldn't have done as well as it did at the box office and on DVD sales. I know you didn't like Superman Returns but going off and implying the public doesn't care about the movie is wrong or it wouldn't have won the awards it did. Plain and simple no one really knows whats going on with either projects all we know and get are rumors. I mean you talk about the "The thing is, JLA script is bought and paid for by WB." but didn't the WB also buy two Wonder Woman scripts and two Flash scripts and the GL script.
 
It was called the Monday after the opening of Batman and Robin. But that is different. Also, the WB thought before hand that they could do what they and Burton planned to do with Superman Lives. As soon as Batman and Robin came out and they knew they couldn't, they scrapped the project real fast.

But this is different. They were getting flack everywhere for casting Nicolas Cage as Superman. It was on Access Hollywood. There was a huge online petition at the time to get Nicholas Cage off of the project.

JLA is something that Warner's wants. The only complaint people are making is that Batman is in it, and people want to see solo movies first for all the characters. They know solo movies are no guarantee for box office thanks to Sr, so they would rather get the introductions done in one movie.

SR did more than BB. It's clear that they hoped from Batman and Superman at least a movie able to replicate the Spiderman success.

The fact that they are recasting even Batman for the JLA movie, IMO it means that at WB they are ready to sacrifice even the new Batman franchise which, I repeat, didn't more than SR and did less than the first Fantastic Four overseas.
 
you talk about the "The thing is, JLA script is bought and paid for by WB." but didn't the WB also buy two Wonder Woman scripts and two Flash scripts and the GL script.

but none of those movies went into casting i believe or even pre-production designs. However i could be mistaken
 
SR did more than BB. It's clear that they hoped from Batman and Superman at least a movie able to replicate the Spiderman success.

The fact that they are recasting even Batman for the JLA movie, IMO it means that at WB they are ready to sacrifice even the new Batman franchise which, I repeat, didn't more than SR and did less than the first Fantastic Four overseas.
Batman Begins cost 100 million less to make and not as much to advertise. Honesly we already discussed this. So, after cost, batman Begins made more of a profit then SR did.
 
I want a J.L. film, and it really doesnt matter to me if routh or bale are in it or not.
I doubt the general publics gonna care much either.
 
The funny thing is, Bale wants to do a team up movie with Routh. But I can understand not wanting to do it till after Batman 3. Then again he really could have said no due to his schedulle. We will never know the 100% facts on why he said no. Hell Welling said no to Superman Returns because of his schedulle and not wanting to have to do both the movies and the TV show at the same time. Think about it from Bale's point of view, The Dark Knight 2008, JLA 2009, Shadow of the Bat 2010. Now to me that is a ton of work on one character and doesn't leave much time for other roles that could be done. Not only will he have to act in them but all the travel to promote the movies would be hell. I don't blame him for saying no. But you never know, with enough buzz he could change his mind.

Besides if it is say an Ultimates JLA movie set in a different time line, that still leaves room for after Shadow of the Bat and Man of Steel for a Worlds Finest movie with Bale and Routh.
 
Aranofsky's script didn't make it much past being handed in. It was too different from the mythos wiht Bruce being raised in a gas station and Al being the guy who owned the station, stabbing someones eye out. Even the WB stated in an old article they pased on it because it was too far off the mark. And after the leak, it was pretty much done.
Yeah, Batman: Year One did have that crap, but it was in the exact same stage that Justice League of America was in right now. It was searching for the main role. It had an unofficial director. It had a script that was being tweaked on. And it fell apart for the reason you mentioned.

Flyby fell apart because McG would not get on a plane. Even McG said that. The WB also said it in an article "had he gotten on that plane, we would have a film going now" Flyby with Ratner fell apart because he wanted Bomer and Peters wanted Brendan Fraser, and ended with I believe a fist fight. Miller can cast fast. He has done it in the past.
Superman Flyby would have been made with Brett Ratner if it didn't get such a horrid review by AICN.

MOS doesn't really have much support in the WB
What part of there is a good chunk of support for a Superman Returns sequel? Two of the three camps over this issue want Man of Steel. The rumor mill is pretty much saying that the execs are pretty much divided evenly for support of Justice League of America, Man of Steel, and having both films.

Your hatred of the film is really blinding you over this. THERE IS SUPPORT FOR A SUPERMAN RETURNS SEQUEL. You say that people have been hostile to you, this is why. You're ignoring facts and twisting them for your own personal views.
 
The funny thing is, Bale wants to do a team up movie with Routh. But I can understand not wanting to do it till after Batman 3. Then again he really could have said no due to his schedulle. We will never know the 100% facts on why he said no. Hell Welling said no to Superman Returns because of his schedulle and not wanting to have to do both the movies and the TV show at the same time. Think about it from Bale's point of view, The Dark Knight 2008, JLA 2009, Shadow of the Bat 2010. Now to me that is a ton of work on one character and doesn't leave much time for other roles that could be done. Not only will he have to act in them but all the travel to promote the movies would be hell. I don't blame him for saying no. But you never know, with enough buzz he could change his mind.


Bale's gone after the 3rd Bat film (assuming that one even happens). He's becoming too sought after in Hollywood and wont want to be playing Batman forever.
 
Well that all depends on the rumors you hear. Some rumors are saying they (the half of the WB that wants JLA) are willing to end the Batman series as well for Justice League. Which is another reason why I think it is a mistake.
 
Bale is contractually obligated to play Batman a third time.
 
Bale is contractually obligated to play Batman a third time.
Correct but at the same time there is talk that the WB is willing to give up the Batman franchise for Justice League which is also why Nolan is upset.
 
Correct but at the same time there is talk that the WB is willing to give up the Batman franchise for Justice League which is also why Nolan is upset.

Is that right, surely they are not that stupid, I mean they have never destroyed a Batman franchise in the past....Oh wait.
 
Thats right according to some rumors the half that wants JLA are willing to say the hell with Batman and Superman if the movie is successful. Thats why the solo franchises really depend on how well Justice League does. Because once JLA is over they are looking at starting off from there with all the heroes if the movie series is successful. Which is why Nolan is upset and why Bale has stated I wish they would wait until after we're done with our movies. Had Bale and Routh been in the movies this wouldn't be a problem but since their not we're also facing this problem.
 
I want a J.L. film, and it really doesnt matter to me if routh or bale are in it or not.
I doubt the general publics gonna care much either.


I think the general movie going public will certainly wonder WTF?

When they don't see Bale as Batman.....guarantee it.

Proof....my girlfriend.....i consider her a part of the general movie audience and she WILL certainly ask me why Bale is not Batman when she hears about a a JL film being released.

Then I will have to tell her that WB's screwed up....
 
Thats right according to some rumors the half that wants JLA are willing to say the hell with Batman and Superman if the movie is successful. Thats why the solo franchises really depend on how well Justice League does. Because once JLA is over they are looking at starting off from there with all the heroes if the movie series is successful. Which is why Nolan is upset and why Bale has stated I wish they would wait until after we're done with our movies. Had Bale and Routh been in the movies this wouldn't be a problem but since their not we're also facing this problem.


WB's being stupid because the main reason to rush this project and not wait until 2012.....is because some lame excuse about a strike that will last maybe 2 weeks at the most?? What a joke...
 
Strike or no strike, JLA was gonna happen regardless. Warners has other goals they want met. The strike is just a scheduling monkey wrench, and one that every other studio has to deal with. Nobody has a clue how long it will last, assuming the unions don't reach a settlement before the deadline. But they still have to be prepared for the worst, even if they're hoping for the best.
 

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