JLA vs. The X-men

[Ultra-Herald9]

LOL, Did you miss the scans I posted? Did you forget Maggs shileds? I think not.

Did you forget how Superman could rock Magneto's jaw with a couple haymakers before Magneto ever knew what hit him?

 

[Phenomenal]

Did you forget how Superman could rock Magneto's jaw with a couple haymakers before Magneto ever knew what hit him?

Not with SHIELDS up.

 

[ShadowBoxing]

Magneto took a punch from Colossus once without his shield, but apparently his powers still take some of the brunt of the injury off of him.

 

[Ultra-Herald9]

Oh my, please I have read MANY Superman comics and Superman is just a raw slugger. Don't even bring up that bull training from mongul or that so called crap training in v?ahalla for a 1000 days. Despite all of that supes goes to his usal routine and just fights like a madman.

It was 1000 years IIRC. He seems like a skilled fighter to IMO and its been shown time and time again that he is alot more skilled then people give him credit for which often catches his opponents off guard. You even referred to some of the instances where he has shown it.

Thor fights like a barbarian with a hammer IMO but I know for a fact that he is extremely skilled with it. Same goes for how Superman fights. Dude can hold his own against amazons.

 

[Ultra-Herald9]

Not with SHIELDS up.

Before he even puts his shields up though.

 

[trustyside-kick]

Braniac attacks SUCKED MAJOR RECTUM BTW.

You talk like I didn't know that. It was a disgrace to all the DC Animated stuff. And the fact that the designs were pretty much slightly edited versions of the Timmverse was even worse, because it was so bad. Lex Luthor probably pissed me off the most. Even the colors used ticked me off. All that together is just a horrible, horrible animated film.

 

[MagicPrime]

Oh my, please I have read MANY Superman comics and Superman is just a raw slugger. Don't even bring up that bull training from mongul or that so called crap training in v?ahalla for a 1000 days. Despite all of that supes goes to his usal routine and just fights like a madman.

WildCat taught superman how to box. You need scans on that?

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Regardless of all his training, Superman generally does tend to just fly in and swing at things in the comics. We never really see any references to his using his training.

 

[Flash Facts]

Yea, Superman does seem to disregard his training until it becomes clear to him that his opponent is formidable.

 

[Phenomenal]

It was 1000 years IIRC. He seems like a skilled fighter to IMO and its been shown time and time again that he is alot more skilled then people give him credit for which often catches his opponents off guard. You even referred to some of the instances where he has shown it.

Thor fights like a barbarian with a hammer IMO but I know for a fact that he is extremely skilled with it. Same goes for how Superman fights. Dude can hold his own against amazons.

Noone really in Marvel or DC uses skill unless stated to be a martial artist or a skilled in a trade.

Before he even puts his shields up though.

Superman's reflexes are not faster than thought.

WildCat taught superman how to box. You need scans on that?

Wow, boxing, another way to say he throws his punches like a madman, just under control though .
Wildcat taught Batman haow to box too.

 

[trustyside-kick]

Superman's reflexes are not faster than thought..

His reflexes may not be faster than thought...but I don't think it would be such a stretch to say he couldn't user his superspeed to get right next to Magneto with a punch before Magneto knew what hit him.

And the fact that Magneto could take a punch from Colossus and not get knocked out is ******ed. Last time I checked...while an "Omega" mutant, he is still human in the sense that his body is as fragile as that of the average person. I've been hearing how Colossus is a class 100 nowadays or something. His powers somehow helping brush off the force of Colossus' attack without his shield is just bad writing. Course, I cannot really believe too much since Marvel's strength class is beyond ******ed with how inconsistent it can be.

 

[Flash Facts]

Boxing is a martial art and it is hardly just throwing punches

 

[Phenomenal]

His reflexes may not be faster than thought...but I don't think it would be such a stretch to say he couldn't user his superspeed to get right next to Magneto with a punch before Magneto knew what hit him.

And the fact that Magneto could take a punch from Colossus and not get knocked out is ******ed. I've been hearing how Colossus is a class 100 nowadays or something. Course, I cannot really believe too much since Marvel's strength class is beyond ******ed with how inconsistent it can be.

1. Superman can't fight at Super speeds to save his life, ask the ShaggyMan!

2. I totally agree with you on Marvel.

 

[trustyside-kick]

Yea, what amazes me is that as an Aquaman fan, people talk about DC trying all of these "gimmicks" to make him seem cooler or powerful, when I see that happening with a ****load of Marvel characters. Suddenly, "big daddy" at Marvel gives them a little upgrade here and there.

By the way, I am in no way lashing out against Marvel, because I do like a lot of their characters while now I only pick up one title, I am just pointing out a fact.

 

[Phenomenal]

Yea, what amazes me is that as an Aquaman fan, people talk about DC trying all of these "gimmicks" to make him seem cooler or powerful, when I see that happening with a ****load of Marvel characters. Suddenly, "big daddy" at Marvel gives them a little upgrade here and there.

By the way, I am in no way lashing out against Marvel, because I do like a lot of their characters while now I only pick up one title, I am just pointing out a fact.

By all means, state your FACTS, I have no problem with them. Your statements are what you said they are...FACTS.

Please, Marvel does those little "gimmicks" all the time.

I agree.

 

[Ultra-Herald9]

1. Superman can't fight at Super speeds to save his life, ask the ShaggyMan!

2. I totally agree with you on Marvel.

Wow, Supes versus Shaggy is way throwback. Now you are just digging. Especially since in recent times he has shown he is capable of blitzing quite easily.

 

[Phenomenal]

Wow, Supes versus Shaggy is way throwback. Now you are just digging. Especially since in recent times he has shown he is capable of blitzing quite easily.

Supes gets tagged by any and EVERYONE; Nothings changed.

 

[Ultra-Herald9]

Supes gets tagged by any and EVERYONE; Nothings changed.

Only people who don't really hurt him. He never really needs to move.

 

[ShadowBoxing]

His reflexes may not be faster than thought...but I don't think it would be such a stretch to say he couldn't user his superspeed to get right next to Magneto with a punch before Magneto knew what hit him.

And the fact that Magneto could take a punch from Colossus and not get knocked out is ******ed. Last time I checked...while an "Omega" mutant, he is still human in the sense that his body is as fragile as that of the average person. I've been hearing how Colossus is a class 100 nowadays or something. His powers somehow helping brush off the force of Colossus' attack without his shield is just bad writing. Course, I cannot really believe too much since Marvel's strength class is beyond ******ed with how inconsistent it can be.

Claremont wrote the story where he did it. It's a very famous and well regarded story as well. Happens in the Uncanny X-Men 114-116 arc with Magneto in the Volcanno. When Magneto has magnetoc energy inside of him it renders him durable well past class 100 attacks

While weakened

Against Hercules

Against Rogue

Settling some other debates

Magneto deflects photons

Affecting matter at the molecular level

 

[ShadowBoxing]

Magnetic powers used to take the pain of nuclear attack

Physically attacking X-Men

he was able to take full power energy assault from Bishop who had absorbed energies of nearly all energy using X-Men and the energy of the said X-Men without shield…and was still able to talk.

Magneto vs Avengers

 

[Nokio]

His reflexes may not be faster than thought...but I don't think it would be such a stretch to say he couldn't user his superspeed to get right next to Magneto with a punch before Magneto knew what hit him.

And the fact that Magneto could take a punch from Colossus and not get knocked out is ******ed. Last time I checked...while an "Omega" mutant, he is still human in the sense that his body is as fragile as that of the average person. I've been hearing how Colossus is a class 100 nowadays or something. His powers somehow helping brush off the force of Colossus' attack without his shield is just bad writing. Course, I cannot really believe too much since Marvel's strength class is beyond ******ed with how inconsistent it can be.

Well magneto's shield should already be up if he's getting ready to enter into a battle with the JLA. Why would mags confront the JLA and not have his shield up? Why would Supes attack him right off the bat unless Mags gives him reason to.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

There are other scans posted earlier that show Magneto commenting about a personal shield while there's no visible bubble or lines around him. I find it far more likely that he's simply using that same personal shield in the scans ShadowBoxing just posted than the idea that he's somehow superhumanly durable for no apparent reason.

 

[Nokio]

My god those scans are god awful, well not all but a lot of it is silly and should remain in the past. Magneto isn't invulnerabale, he pretty much has the body of a normal human. Mags can take punches from Collosses but a plastic bullet can pierce his skin? I remember reading an issue where someone pulled a gun on mags and he just knew that he would easily deflect the bullet away, but the bullets were plastic and Mags got shot. A lot of that stuff is bad writting.

 

[souloffire]

If Magneto is so powerful why isn't every hero in the marvel universe dead and Magneto ruler of the world?

 

[trustyside-kick]

Magnetic powers used to take the pain of nuclear attack

That is just bad writing. I can look at him, and respect the power of his force field to an extant...but that is pushing it.

Physically attacking X-Men

That isn't impressive. So he can use his powers to give him a "magnetically-powered fists" kind of deal. Oh, and he was able to toss Wolvie. All of a sudden Wolvie is a high class hero? I know he is definitely a popular hero, but as far as his strength and endurance goes, he isn't high up there. He can lift like two tons the most. All of those heroes matter a fact, are do not have great durability; except for Rogue. But he does so with his little "fist power up" with his abilities. But I wouldn't compare Rogues durability with Superman's, therefore I'm not impressed with this scan.

he was able to take full power energy assault from Bishop who had absorbed energies of nearly all energy using X-Men and the energy of the said X-Men without shield…and was still able to talk.

As TheCorpulent1 said, it appears he has some sort of a non-visible shield protecting him. All this proves is that he can withstand an energy blast and Iceman's blast. Since most of the arguement has been a talk about Supes VS Magneto really, how does their blasts compare to Supes?

Magneto vs Avengers

All the members he messes with have some kind of metal for him to mess with. That is something we already know. How is this such an amazing feat for Magneto that shows he can pwn everyone?

I don't recall their being any iron in the air. So I don't understand where Vision is talking about ferrous particles in the air...most of air is nitrogen and oxygen, along with a various amount of other elements that make a very small part of air, but none of those elements that make bearly a percentage of air is iron.

But how he holds back Thor with metal constructs and how he puts down Vision is something that just makes sense. Although, not impressive because it is obvious.